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I believe what might be happening here is possibly related to Republic Bank's refund transfer product, which sometimes defaults to paper check delivery if certain conditions aren't met. In my experience last tax season, there are a few things that could have potentially triggered this switch: 1. If you perhaps opted to have your preparation fees deducted from your refund, this generally requires using their transfer product 2. If your banking information possibly didn't pass their verification process 3. If there was maybe a discrepancy between the name on your tax return and your bank account It's somewhat frustrating, but generally speaking, once they print the check, you should typically receive it within 5-7 business days, depending on your location and mail service efficiency.
This is exactly what happened to me! I had my fees taken out of my refund and suddenly I was getting a paper check instead of direct deposit. The most annoying part was that nobody told me this would happen - I only found out when I called after waiting two weeks with no deposit. The check arrived about 6 days after they finally printed it.
This is such a frustrating experience that seems way too common with Republic Bank! I went through something similar last year where I was absolutely certain I selected direct deposit, but ended up with a paper check that took forever to arrive. What really helped me was calling the IRS directly (yes, the dreaded hold time) to get my actual transcript and see exactly what codes were showing up. Turns out there was a mismatch between my bank account name and my tax return name that triggered the switch to paper check. The IRS rep was actually able to explain exactly why it happened, which Republic Bank never bothered to do. For next year, I'm double and triple checking every field during e-filing to avoid this headache again!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - your aunt and uncle should consider filing IRS Form 911 (Taxpayer Advocate Service) along with their OIC application. My parents were in a similar situation (though they were in Canada, not deported) and the Taxpayer Advocate really helped navigate the unique circumstances. The Taxpayer Advocate Service can sometimes intervene when there are special circumstances like being unable to return to the US due to immigration issues. They have more flexibility than regular IRS agents to consider unique situations. Also, make sure to emphasize in the OIC application that your aunt and uncle CANNOT return to the US to earn income to pay the debt. That "economic hardship" angle can be persuasive in these cases.
Is there a way to contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service from outside the US? And do they actually have the authority to help with cases involving deportation or does that create complications?
Yes, the Taxpayer Advocate Service can be contacted from outside the US. There's an international taxpayer advocate office specifically for taxpayers living abroad. They can be reached at 787-522-8601, or you can submit Form 911 by mail or fax. The Taxpayer Advocate absolutely has authority to help with tax issues regardless of immigration status. Their role is to ensure fair treatment of taxpayers facing significant hardship, and inability to return to the US due to immigration issues certainly qualifies as a hardship when it affects one's ability to pay taxes. They don't handle the immigration matters themselves, but they can advocate for reasonable tax solutions given those circumstances.
Don't forget about the implications for future immigration status! When my cousin applied for reentry after a deportation, the immigration officers specifically looked at whether he had resolved his tax issues. Make sure your aunt and uncle understand that handling this tax debt properly now (even if through an OIC) could impact their ability to return to the US later. Unresolved tax debt can be considered in immigration proceedings as a negative factor. I'd strongly suggest consulting with both a tax professional AND an immigration attorney since these issues are intertwined. The approach to the OIC could have implications for the pending U-visa application.
That's a really important point I hadn't considered. Do you know if accepting an OIC would be viewed negatively on future immigration applications? Or is it better than having unpaid tax debt?
An accepted OIC is generally viewed more favorably than unpaid tax debt in immigration proceedings. Immigration officers want to see that you've resolved your tax obligations, even if through a compromise. Having an active tax debt shows you haven't addressed your responsibilities, while an OIC shows you took steps to resolve the situation within your financial means. For the U-visa specifically, demonstrating good moral character is important, and resolving tax issues (even through compromise) supports that. Just make sure to keep all documentation showing the OIC was accepted and paid in full - you'll likely need this for future immigration applications. The key is being proactive about resolving the debt rather than ignoring it. Immigration attorneys often recommend getting tax issues cleared up before proceeding with major immigration applications.
Does anyone know if having tax topic 152 means you're definitely getting a refund? Or can they still deny it at this stage? This is my first time seeing this code and I'm not sure if I should be relieved or still worried, haha. Also, does checking WMR multiple times a day slow down processing? (Asking for a friend... who might be me š
Tax Topic 152 is actually a good sign - it means the IRS has accepted your return and it's moving through their system. You're definitely getting your refund, it's just a matter of when. I've been through this several times and checking WMR constantly doesn't affect processing speed (though it might affect your sanity!). The IRS updates their systems overnight, usually between midnight and 6am, so checking once daily in the morning is plenty. Since you filed 3 weeks ago, you should see movement soon - most returns with Topic 152 get their DDD within 21 days of filing. Hang in there!
Thank you so much for this reassurance! As someone new to dealing with tax refunds, seeing that code without any clear explanation was really stressing me out. It's good to know that checking constantly won't hurt anything (though you're right about the sanity part - I've probably refreshed WMR about 20 times today alone). I really appreciate you taking the time to break down what Topic 152 actually means and giving that realistic timeline. Makes me feel much better about the whole process!
Make sure you're considering the "tie-breaker" rules in Article 4(2) of the treaty! As a dual citizen, these determine where your tax residency is primarily located for treaty purposes. Also, are you reporting your income properly in NZ? I think they call it "schedular payments" for contractor income there, which has its own rules.
This is exactly the kind of confusing situation that kept me up at night when I first moved to NZ as a contractor! The treaty language is genuinely difficult to parse, but here's what I've learned after going through this myself: You're correct that as a US citizen, you can't escape US tax obligations regardless of the treaty - that saving clause in Article 1(3) is ironclad. However, you have several strategies to minimize double taxation: 1. **Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555)**: Since you're living in NZ full-time, you likely qualify to exclude up to $120,000 of your 1099 income from US taxation. This is often better than relying on foreign tax credits. 2. **Totalization Agreement**: Apply for a Certificate of Coverage from NZ's Ministry of Social Development to potentially avoid US self-employment taxes (15.3%) since you're contributing to NZ's social security system. 3. **NZ Tax Planning**: In NZ, your US contractor income is foreign-sourced income. Make sure you're handling the schedular payment requirements correctly - the IRD has specific rules for this. The key is layering these strategies properly. I'd recommend tackling the FEIE first since it's the most straightforward, then working on the totalization agreement for SE tax relief. Don't try to rely solely on the treaty provisions - they're mostly neutered by the saving clause for US citizens.
NebulaKnight
Bit of a related question - has anyone successfully deducted home office expenses for their payment app income? I use a dedicated room in my apartment exclusively for the graphic design work that I get paid for through Venmo, but I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle or if it increases audit risk.
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Zoe Christodoulou
ā¢Yes, you can absolutely deduct home office expenses if you have a space used "regularly and exclusively" for business. Since you have a dedicated room, you likely qualify. You can use either the simplified method ($5 per square foot, up to 300 sq ft) or the regular method (calculating actual expenses). The simplified method is less paperwork but might result in a smaller deduction depending on your costs. The regular method requires tracking actual expenses (portion of rent, utilities, etc.) but could be more beneficial. TurboTax has a good section that walks you through both options so you can compare. As for audit risk, having a dedicated room that's used exclusively for business puts you in a much safer position than those claiming partial rooms or shared spaces. Just take photos of your workspace and keep them with your tax records as documentation.
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Marina Hendrix
As someone who dealt with this exact situation last year, I want to emphasize something that might not be obvious - make sure you're distinguishing between gross receipts and actual taxable income when you report on Schedule C. For example, if you received $9,500 through payment apps but $1,200 of that was reimbursements from clients for materials you purchased for their projects, you'd only report $8,300 as gross receipts (assuming you're also deducting those material costs as business expenses). Also, don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments for next year if your side gig income continues. Since payment apps don't withhold taxes like employers do, you might owe penalties if you end up owing more than $1,000 when you file. The IRS expects you to pay as you go, not just at year-end. One more tip: If you're using TurboTax, when you get to the Schedule C section, it will ask about your business code. For graphic design work, you'll want to use NAICS code 541430 (Graphic Design Services). This helps ensure your return is processed correctly and your deductions align with what the IRS expects for your type of business.
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