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Columbus TAC has limited walk-ins. Tuesdays best. Arrive by 8AM. Bring two forms of ID. Have all documents organized. Expect 3+ hour wait even if accepted. No guarantee you'll be seen. Better to call for appointment. No cell phones allowed inside. No food or drinks. Parking is $10 nearby. Security is strict about what you can bring in.
I had a very similar dependent verification issue last month and ended up going to the Columbus TAC as a walk-in. Here's what worked for me: I arrived at 7:45 AM on a Wednesday (before they officially opened) and was about 8th in line. They have a paper sign-in system now that starts around 8:15 AM. The triage staff member was actually quite helpful - she reviewed my documentation and determined my case could be handled that day. Total time was about 4 hours from arrival to resolution, but they completely sorted out my dependent verification and even helped me understand why the online system had rejected my documentation. Pro tip: bring snacks and a phone charger if you go this route, and make sure you have certified copies of birth certificates, not just regular photocopies. The staff really know their stuff once you get past the access barriers.
This is exactly the kind of detailed experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you so much for sharing. Four hours is definitely a commitment, but it sounds like they were thorough in helping you resolve everything. I'm curious - when you mention certified copies of birth certificates, did you get those from the vital records office, or were there other acceptable alternatives? I have photocopies but want to make sure I'm not turned away for documentation issues after waiting that long.
Don't forget about state penalties too! The federal underpayment penalty is one thing, but many states also charge their own penalties for missed estimated payments. Check your state tax requirements as soon as possible. In my experience, state penalties can sometimes be easier to get waived if you have a reasonable explanation. Many states have their own first-time abatement policies similar to the IRS.
Do you know if California has a first-time abatement program? I'm in the same boat as OP but worried about both federal and state penalties.
California doesn't have an official first-time abatement program like the IRS does. However, they do consider "reasonable cause" explanations for penalty relief. If you can demonstrate that you didn't understand the estimated tax requirements as a new self-employed taxpayer, they may reduce or waive the penalty. The best approach with California is to file on time, pay as much as you can with the return, and include a penalty abatement request letter explaining your situation. Be specific about why you didn't make estimated payments and emphasize that you've corrected your understanding for future tax years.
Something nobody mentioned yet - if you make a payment now before filing your return, it can reduce the penalty period! The underpayment penalty is calculated based on how long the money was late, so paying now stops the clock on additional penalties.
That's good to know! If I pay the full amount I estimate I owe before filing, will that completely stop additional penalties from accruing?
Yes, if you pay the full amount you owe before filing, it will stop additional penalties from accruing! The underpayment penalty is calculated from the due date of each quarterly payment through the date you actually pay. So making a payment now essentially caps your penalty at the current amount. Just make sure you're paying enough - if you underpay and still owe more when you file, penalties will continue on the remaining balance. It's better to slightly overpay now than to underpay and have penalties keep running. You can make estimated tax payments online through the IRS Direct Pay system or EFTPS. Just specify it's for the current tax year when you make the payment.
When I started my first "real" job after college, I accidentally marked exempt on my W4 too. It's an easy mistake to make! The way I handled it was to immediately fix my W4 with HR and then have extra withholding taken out for the rest of the year to try to catch up. If you can afford it, you could increase your withholding for the remainder of 2025 to offset some of what you'll owe. On your W4, there's a line that lets you specify additional withholding from each paycheck. This won't solve the whole problem, but it might reduce the amount you need to pay when you file.
How much extra should they withhold though? Is there some calculator to figure out the right amount to catch up? And does doing this extra withholding help avoid penalties at all?
The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that can help calculate how much extra you should withhold to catch up. You enter your income, current withholding, and how much you've already earned this year, and it suggests an amount for each remaining paycheck. Increasing your withholding now can help reduce or even eliminate underpayment penalties, but it depends on your specific situation. The IRS generally waives penalties if you've paid at least 90% of your tax liability through withholding by the end of the year, or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your income is over a certain threshold). So catching up on withholding is definitely worth doing if you can afford it.
Is anyone going to mention that the employer is partially at fault here? I work in HR and we're supposed to verify that people claiming exempt actually qualified for exempt status the previous year. Like if you had a tax liability last year, you technically can't claim exempt this year. There are specific requirements for claiming exempt status.
Really? I didn't know employers had any responsibility for this. I always thought it was entirely on the employee to fill out their W4 correctly and the company just processes whatever you put down.
@Sofia Gutierrez That s'really interesting - I had no idea employers were supposed to verify exempt status! So does this mean OP might have some recourse with their employer? Like could the company have caught this earlier and prevented the whole situation? I m'wondering if this is something worth bringing up with HR when they fix their W4, or if it would just create unnecessary drama at work.
The IRS does not require individuals to file a zero return if your income is under the standard deduction. But as a tax preparer I often recommend filing anyway for 3 key reasons: 1) statute of limitations starts running when you file (protecting you from future audits), 2) establishes income history for loans/benefits, and 3) prevents the IRS from creating a substitute return for you (which never works in your favor).
That's really interesting about the substitute return thing - I had no idea the IRS would just create a return for you! Does that happen often? And what do you mean about the statute of limitations?
Substitute returns typically happen when the IRS receives income documents (like W-2s or 1099s) for you but you haven't filed. They're rare for people with truly zero income but can happen if there's any reported income they know about. The problem is the IRS only includes income, not deductions or credits you're entitled to, so you almost always end up with a higher tax bill. Regarding the statute of limitations, the IRS generally has 3 years from the date you file to audit your return. If you never file, there's no statute of limitations, meaning they could theoretically come back 10+ years later with questions. Filing starts that 3-year clock, even for a zero return, giving you protection and closure for that tax year.
Based on what you've described about your mom's situation, she's likely not legally required to file a federal return since she had no income and the art business resulted in a net loss rather than profit. However, I'd strongly recommend she file anyway for several important reasons. First, that $2,400 business loss could be valuable for future tax years. Business losses can be carried forward to offset income when she does start earning again, potentially saving her money down the road. But she needs to file this year to establish and document those losses. Second, filing creates a paper trail that can be helpful later for things like loan applications, benefit eligibility, or even just proving her income status for various programs. Many people don't realize how often you need to show tax returns as proof of income (or lack thereof). At 58 and single, she's definitely not required to file with zero income, but the potential benefits of filing likely outweigh the minimal effort involved. You might also want to check if she qualifies for any refundable credits - sometimes people with little to no income can still get credits that result in refunds. The good news is that a zero-income return is typically very straightforward to file, and many free filing options are available for her income level.
This is such helpful advice! I really appreciate you breaking down the business loss carryforward thing - I had no idea that was even possible. The part about creating a paper trail makes total sense too, especially after reading about other people's experiences with loans and stuff. One quick follow-up question: when you mention "free filing options for her income level," do you know what the income threshold is for those programs? And would the art business expenses complicate things even if she uses free filing software? I'm just trying to figure out if this is something we can handle ourselves or if we need to find a tax preparer. Thanks again for such a thorough explanation!
Margot Quinn
just make sure u keep checking ur mail. i verified my identity online in May and thought i was good to go, but then they mailed me ANOTHER form to fill out two weeks later. the IRS is notorious for not communicating between departments.
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Paolo Ricci
I went through identity verification last month and it took exactly 6 weeks to get my refund, so definitely faster than the 9 weeks they quoted. The Where's My Refund tool updated after about 3 weeks showing "still processing" and then suddenly switched to "refund approved" one day. Definitely get that IP PIN - it's super easy to set up and gives you peace of mind. I wish I had done it years ago. The whole verification process is stressful enough without worrying about someone else filing under your SSN. One thing I learned is that the 9 weeks is their worst-case scenario timeframe. Most people seem to get their refunds within 4-6 weeks if there are no other issues with their return. Just be patient and don't stress too much about calling - the confirmation screen you got means everything went through properly.
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Hugh Intensity
ā¢This is really reassuring to hear! 6 weeks sounds much more reasonable than 9. I'm definitely going to set up the IP PIN today - seems like everyone who has it recommends it. Thanks for sharing your timeline, it helps to hear from someone who actually went through this recently. Did you notice any specific updates in Where's My Refund before it switched to approved, or did it just change suddenly?
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