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18 I'm a bit confused - why would an employer even issue multiple W2s like this? Seems like it just creates confusion. Is this some kind of weird tax optimization strategy or just an accounting quirk?
12 It's usually because the person worked in multiple localities (cities, counties, etc.) that have different local tax rates. Some states require employers to break down exactly how much was earned in each locality for local tax purposes. The "TOTAL" W2 is supposed to make federal filing easier by summarizing everything in one place.
I had a similar situation last year and found the FreeTaxUSA help chat to be really useful for this exact scenario. When I explained that I had multiple W2s with one marked "TOTAL," the support agent walked me through it step by step. The key is to look at each box individually across both forms. If a box appears on both the TOTAL W2 and the detailed W2 with the same value, only enter it once (from the TOTAL). But if a box only appears on one form or has different values, you need to enter both W2s separately to capture all the information. In your case, since box 18 (state income tax withheld) only appears on the second W2, you definitely need to enter both forms. The warnings in FreeTaxUSA should clear up once you have all the information entered correctly. Don't worry about the system thinking you're double-counting - it's designed to handle these multi-locality situations.
Everyone's talking about complex structures, but don't overlook 529 college savings accounts if your kids have children (or might in future). You can frontload 5 years of gift tax exclusions at once ($90,000 per beneficiary in 2025), the money grows tax-free for education, AND you maintain control of the account. We did this for our grandkids and it was way simpler than property transfers. Just another option if education funding might be part of your wealth transfer goals.
This is great advice! We did something similar but also found out you can use 529s for K-12 tuition too now, not just college. And if the grandkids get scholarships, you can withdraw the amount of the scholarship with only income tax on the earnings (no 10% penalty). Definitely worth considering as part of a larger strategy.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who recently went through estate planning with my parents, I wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help with your decision-making process. One thing that really surprised us was how much the timing of transfers matters beyond just the tax implications. We found that staggering different types of asset transfers over multiple years gave us flexibility to adjust our strategy based on changing tax laws, market conditions, and family circumstances. For your crypto holdings specifically, consider that the IRS has been increasing scrutiny on cryptocurrency transactions. Make sure you have detailed records of your original purchase dates and costs - this documentation becomes crucial whether you gift during your lifetime or your kids inherit it later. Also, don't underestimate the emotional and relationship aspects of wealth transfer. We started with smaller gifts to see how each of my siblings handled the responsibility before moving to larger transfers. Some were better equipped to manage rental properties, while others preferred liquid assets they could invest according to their own risk tolerance. One final thought - consider having a family meeting to discuss your plans openly. My parents did this and it prevented a lot of potential confusion and conflict later. Your kids might have preferences about which assets they'd rather receive, and their input could actually help optimize your tax strategy. The tools and services others have mentioned sound helpful for running the numbers, but don't forget the human element in all of this!
This is really valuable perspective about the emotional and family dynamics side of wealth transfer! I'm just starting to think about these issues as my parents approach retirement, and honestly hadn't considered how different siblings might handle different types of assets differently. The family meeting idea is brilliant - I imagine it could also help identify if any of the kids are in situations where they'd benefit more from immediate liquidity versus long-term appreciating assets. Plus getting everyone on the same page upfront probably prevents a lot of awkward conversations later about why one person got the rental property and another got cash. Did you find that your parents' approach of starting with smaller test transfers actually changed their overall strategy? I'm curious if any patterns emerged about who was better suited for which types of assets.
Anyone know if this foreign qualified dividends stuff affects the standard deduction vs itemized deduction decision? I usually take the standard deduction but wondering if having foreign dividends might change that calculation.
Foreign qualified dividends don't directly impact whether you should itemize or take the standard deduction. The foreign tax credit is handled separately on Form 1116 and is available whether you itemize or take the standard deduction. However, if you have significant foreign tax withholding, it might be worth calculating your taxes both ways to see which is more beneficial. Some tax software doesn't optimize this automatically, especially with the simplified foreign tax credit option.
I went through this exact same confusion last year! Your accountant is asking for the foreign-sourced portion of your qualified dividends because it affects your foreign tax credit calculation. Here's what I learned: ADR dividends are often subject to foreign withholding tax (usually 10-15% depending on the country and tax treaty). When you receive these dividends, the foreign country takes their cut first, then you get the remainder. But you can claim a credit for that foreign tax to avoid being taxed twice. The key is looking at your 1099-DIV carefully. Most brokers will show: - Box 1a: Total ordinary dividends - Box 1b: Qualified dividends (this includes both US and foreign) - Then somewhere (usually in supplementary pages) they'll break down how much of your qualified dividends came from foreign sources and how much foreign tax was withheld If your broker's statements are unclear, try logging into your account and looking for a "Tax Center" or "Tax Documents" section - sometimes they have more detailed breakdowns there than on the printed 1099. You can also call their tax department directly and ask them to walk you through finding the foreign dividend information. This info is crucial for your accountant to properly calculate your foreign tax credit on Form 1116, which could save you money!
This is really helpful! I'm dealing with the same issue and my broker (Vanguard) has like 30+ pages in my tax package. Do you remember roughly where in the document you found the foreign dividend breakdown? Was it mixed in with all the other supplementary info or in a dedicated section? Also, when you mention the foreign tax credit on Form 1116 - is that something most tax software handles automatically once you input the foreign dividend amounts, or do you need to manually calculate it?
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A) which can give you a deduction of up to 20% of your qualified business income! This is separate from your business expenses on Schedule C and can really help reduce your tax bill as a 1099 worker. Also, make sure you're tracking and deducting your self-employment tax payments. You can deduct 50% of your self-employment tax on your 1040, which helps offset some of the extra tax burden from being self-employed.
Wait, is the 20% QBI deduction automatic or do I have to calculate something? I do gig work too and never heard of this!
It's not completely automatic - you need to calculate it, but it's not overly complicated for most gig workers. Basically, if your taxable income is below $170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers (2023 numbers), you can generally take a deduction equal to 20% of your qualified business income. Your qualified business income is essentially your net profit from Schedule C - your 1099 income minus your business expenses. The calculation gets more complex if you're above those income thresholds or in certain service businesses, but for most gig workers it's straightforward. Definitely worth looking into as it can significantly reduce your taxable income!
You might also want to look into setting up a SEP IRA or Solo 401(k) for retirement. As a 1099 contractor, you're eligible for these self-employed retirement accounts which let you put away WAY more than regular IRAs. This won't help with last year's taxes, but could significantly reduce your tax bill going forward. With a Solo 401(k), you can contribute up to $22,500 as an "employee" for 2023 PLUS an additional 25% of your net self-employment earnings as the "employer" (up to combined limits). These contributions are tax-deductible and reduce your taxable income.
Is it worth setting this up if I only made like $36k from gig work? Seems complicated for a small amount.
Actually, yes! Even at $36k, a Solo 401(k) could be worth it. You could potentially contribute around $9,000 (25% of net earnings after self-employment tax adjustments) which would save you roughly $1,000-2,000 in taxes depending on your bracket. The setup isn't that complicated - many brokerages like Fidelity, Schwab, or Vanguard offer them with minimal paperwork. You have until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) to set it up and make contributions for the previous tax year. So you could still potentially reduce your 2023 tax bill if you act quickly! Just make sure you have enough cash flow since retirement contributions tie up your money until age 59.5 (with some exceptions).
Paolo Rizzo
Has your cousin checked her mail carefully for the past 2 years? The IRS would have sent a CP79 notice if they disallowed her EIC. Sometimes these letters look like junk mail and people throw them away. Also, did she move in the last couple years? The notice might have gone to an old address.
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Amina Sy
ā¢This happened to me! I moved and the IRS letter went to my old place. By the time I found out I had a problem, it was tax time and I was getting rejected just like OP's cousin. Check with USPS to see if they can tell you about any forwarded IRS mail.
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Landon Morgan
I went through this exact same situation with my sister two years ago! The Form 8862 requirement caught us completely off guard too. What we learned is that the IRS has automated systems that can flag and adjust EIC claims months after you've already received your refund. Here's what I'd recommend: First, have your cousin create an online account at irs.gov and check her transcript. This will show any adjustments or notices from previous years that she might have missed. Second, when filling out Form 8862 in FreeTaxUSA, be extra careful with the qualifying child requirements - the IRS is very strict about things like the residency test (child must live with her more than half the year) and making sure the SSNs are valid for work. Don't panic about the 10-year ban someone mentioned - that's only for intentional fraud cases. As long as your cousin answers truthfully and has legitimate qualifying children, she should be fine. Keep good records though - school enrollment forms, medical records, anything that proves the kids lived with her. The IRS may audit EIC claims more closely after a Form 8862 is filed. Also, make sure she hasn't claimed these same children on previous years' returns where someone else (like their father) also claimed them. That's a common reason for EIC disallowance that people don't realize happened.
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