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Adriana Cohn

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I'm actually a tax preparer and want to add some context. The mortgage interest deduction was never really designed to be "unfair" to renters - it's a legacy policy from when almost all interest was deductible (including credit cards, car loans, etc). Those other deductions were eliminated but mortgage interest stayed because of heavy lobbying from the real estate industry. With the increased standard deduction ($13,850 single/$27,700 married in 2025), about 85% of taxpayers don't itemize anymore anyway. So many homeowners aren't even getting that benefit unless they have very large mortgages.

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Melody Miles

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But what about property tax deductions? Those still benefit homeowners and not renters, right? Even though technically renters are paying property taxes through their rent.

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That's exactly right about property taxes. Renters do indirectly pay property taxes through their rent, but they get no deduction for it while homeowners can deduct up to $10,000 annually (thanks to the SALT cap). And yes, the real estate industry has historically had very effective lobbying. The National Association of Realtors is one of the largest political donors in the country and has successfully defended the mortgage interest deduction for decades, even when other interest deductions were eliminated in the 1986 tax reform. What's particularly frustrating is that many economists argue the mortgage interest deduction actually drives up housing prices by increasing demand, which ironically makes it harder for renters to eventually buy homes. So it's a policy that benefits current homeowners at the expense of future homebuyers.

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Paolo Longo

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As someone who's been renting for over a decade while watching friends benefit from homeowner tax breaks, I completely understand your frustration. The system really does feel stacked against renters, especially when you consider that we're often paying the same or more monthly than mortgage holders but getting zero tax relief. One thing that helped me was learning about the Renter's Credit available in some states. I'm in California and discovered we have a renter's credit that I'd been missing for years - it's not huge, but every bit helps when you're trying to save for that elusive down payment. Also, if you do any freelance work or have a side gig, you might be able to claim a portion of your rent as a home office deduction. I started doing some consulting work from my apartment and was able to deduct about 10% of my rent costs through the simplified home office deduction method. The whole system definitely needs reform though. It's particularly frustrating that landlords can deduct their mortgage interest, property taxes, maintenance, and even depreciation on the same property we're paying rent for, while we get nothing. At minimum, there should be some federal renter's credit to level the playing field.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive perspective I was hoping to find! The California renter's credit is something I'll definitely look into - I had no idea states like CA offered anything for renters. Your point about the home office deduction for side work is really helpful too. I do some freelance graphic design work from my apartment, so I might actually qualify for that 10% deduction you mentioned. Do you know if there's a minimum amount of freelance income required, or can any legitimate business use of your home space qualify? And you're absolutely right about the fundamental unfairness - it's maddening that my landlord gets to deduct literally everything related to the property I'm paying him to live in, while I get zero recognition that I'm covering those costs through my rent payments. The system really does seem designed to keep renters as renters and reward those who already have enough capital to buy property.

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This is a great question and one that comes up frequently with multi-entity business structures! Based on what you've described, this arrangement is definitely doable, but there are several key considerations to get right: **Documentation is crucial** - You'll want formal service agreements between the LLCs outlining the scope of work, payment terms, and rates. Simple invoicing might not be sufficient if you get audited. **Fair market value** - The rates your single-member LLC charges should be comparable to what an unrelated third party would charge for similar services. This protects against IRS challenges about inflated expenses. **Operating agreement compliance** - Make sure your Trio Consulting LLC's operating agreement doesn't restrict this type of arrangement, and get explicit approval from your partners. **Tax implications** - Your single-member LLC income will flow through to your personal return, and you'll owe self-employment taxes on it. Meanwhile, Trio Consulting can deduct these payments as legitimate business expenses. One thing to consider: since you're essentially wearing two hats (partner in Trio AND service provider through Solo Marketing), maintain clear boundaries about which work belongs to which entity to avoid conflicts with your partners. Have you discussed this arrangement with your partners yet? Their buy-in will be essential for making this work smoothly.

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Zoe Stavros

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm particularly interested in the "fair market value" point you mentioned. How do you typically determine what constitutes fair market value for marketing services between related entities? Is it enough to research what freelance marketers charge in your area, or does the IRS expect more formal documentation like getting quotes from unrelated third parties for comparison?

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Great question about LLC payment structures! I've been dealing with something similar and want to add a few practical points: **State-specific considerations** - Don't forget to check your state's LLC laws too. Some states have additional requirements for related-party transactions or disclosure obligations that go beyond federal tax rules. **Quarterly estimated taxes** - Since you'll have income flowing from both LLCs, make sure you're calculating estimated tax payments correctly. The income from your single-member LLC billing the multi-member LLC could push you into different tax brackets or trigger additional Medicare taxes. **Record keeping** - Keep meticulous records of time spent, specific deliverables, and communications about the work. If the IRS ever questions whether this was legitimate business activity vs. just moving money around, detailed contemporaneous records will be your best defense. **Consider liability implications** - Having your single-member LLC provide services to the multi-member LLC could create additional liability exposure depending on the type of marketing work you're doing. Make sure your insurance coverage accounts for this arrangement. The arrangement itself is totally legitimate as others have mentioned, but the devil is really in the details of execution and documentation. Better to over-document than under-document with these types of related-party transactions!

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Ava Williams

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Really appreciate you bringing up the state-specific considerations! I hadn't thought about potential state-level disclosure requirements. Do you happen to know if there's a good resource for checking these state-specific LLC rules? I'm in California and want to make sure I'm not missing any additional compliance requirements beyond the federal tax considerations everyone's discussed. Also, your point about liability implications is spot-on. I'm wondering if having separate professional liability insurance for each LLC might be necessary, or if there are ways to structure the coverage to protect both entities under one policy?

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Have you considered setting up a shared Dropbox or Google Drive folder where everyone uploads their documents? That's what I did for my family - created a secure folder structure for each person, had them upload docs throughout the year, then I blocked off a weekend to do all the returns using FreeTaxUSA. Way more efficient than doing them one by one with each person present.

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Pedro Sawyer

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I tried the shared folder method but had issues with older family members not scanning things properly or uploading the wrong docs. How did you handle the technologically challenged relatives?

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@Pedro Sawyer I ran into the same issue initially! What worked for me was creating a simple one-page instruction sheet with screenshots showing exactly how to scan and upload documents. I also set up a practice "folder where" they could test uploading a random document first. For the really tech-challenged relatives, I found it easier to either visit them once to collect all their documents in person, or have them mail me physical copies that I could scan myself. The time saved from not having to sit through each return individually still made it worthwhile, even with some extra document collection effort upfront. The key was being flexible - some family members used the digital method, others I just collected docs from the old-fashioned way. As long as I had all the paperwork centralized, I could still knock out all the returns efficiently in one session.

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Eli Butler

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I've been in a similar situation with preparing taxes for multiple family members, and what really helped me was switching to TaxAct Professional. Unlike their consumer version, the Professional edition allows you to prepare multiple returns under one license without needing PTIN/EFIN credentials if you're not charging for the service. The cost is around $200-300 for the software, which breaks down to about $40-50 per return for your 7 family members - much cheaper than paying a professional for each return. The interface is more streamlined than consumer software, and you can easily switch between different taxpayers without the interview-style questions. Another huge time-saver I discovered was creating a standardized document checklist for each family member. I send it out in January with a deadline of mid-February, so I can batch process everything in one weekend. Having all documents organized upfront makes the actual tax prep incredibly efficient. The learning curve is minimal if you're already comfortable with tax concepts, and it's saved me probably 15-20 hours compared to my old method of doing each return individually with consumer software.

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This is exactly what I was looking for! Quick question about TaxAct Professional - when you say you don't need PTIN/EFIN credentials if you're not charging for the service, does that mean you can still e-file the returns directly? Or do you have to print and mail them? I've been avoiding professional software specifically because I thought e-filing required those credentials regardless of whether you're charging fees. Also, how does the document checklist work in practice? Do you find family members actually follow it, or do you still end up chasing people down for missing forms?

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Jibriel Kohn

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I had the exact same issue last year! I used H&R Block, uploaded Form 8332 for my daughter, and was told they'd mail the 8453. Six months later, my ex got a letter from the IRS saying the dependency exemption was denied because they never received the form. When I went back to H&R Block, they admitted they "couldn't find any record" of mailing it. I ended up having to file an amended return and mail everything myself with certified mail. H&R Block did cover the fees for the amendment since it was their mistake, but it was a huge hassle. Definitely don't just trust that they're handling it!

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Did you have to pay any penalties because of their mistake? I'm worried about the same thing happening to me.

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Nick Kravitz

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This is such a frustrating situation that unfortunately happens more often than it should. I work as a tax compliance specialist and see this exact issue regularly. Here's what you need to know: 1. **Immediate action needed**: Don't wait any longer. Contact H&R Block's office manager (not just any employee) and demand written confirmation that your Form 8453 with attached Form 8332 was mailed, including the date and IRS processing center address. 2. **If they can't provide proof**: Mail the forms yourself immediately with certified mail. You can still submit Form 8332 even after the original return was filed - just include a cover letter explaining the situation. 3. **Timeline matters**: The IRS typically processes these within 6-8 weeks once received. If your ex filed claiming the dependency exemption without the supporting form, his return might be in "pending" status or he could receive a notice requesting the documentation. 4. **Protect yourself**: Going forward, always request a copy of Form 8453 and tracking confirmation for any mailed documents. Many preparers are supposed to provide this automatically but don't always follow through. The good news is this can still be fixed, but time is critical. Don't let H&R Block's confusion delay your action any further.

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Carmen Vega

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to contact the office manager tomorrow morning. One quick question - when you say "include a cover letter explaining the situation" if I have to mail the forms myself, what exactly should that letter say? Should I mention that H&R Block was supposed to handle it originally, or just focus on getting the form processed? I don't want to say anything that might complicate things further with the IRS.

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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting this kind of thing? I'm confused about where to even put this information when I file!

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Ava Thompson

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I dealt with this in TurboTax last year. You can report the income under "Other Income" (not as self-employment) and then indicate it was for charity. There's a section for charitable contributions where you can explain the situation. Make sure you have a letter from the charity acknowledging your role and the donation amount.

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I went through something very similar last year with a charity auction I organized! The most important thing is to establish that you were acting as an agent/conduit for the charity from the beginning, not as someone who received income and then decided to donate it. Here's what saved me: I got a signed letter from the 501(c)(3) organization stating that I was authorized to collect funds on their behalf as a volunteer fundraiser, and that all net proceeds were always intended for their organization. This letter should be dated close to when your event occurred (not just now when you're filing taxes). When reporting, you'll want to show the gross receipts as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, but then you can offset it with the charitable deduction. The key documentation is: 1) All your expense receipts totaling $2,300, 2) The charity acknowledgment letter, 3) Bank records showing the $3,900 transfer to the charity, and 4) A simple written statement explaining your role as volunteer organizer. Don't worry too much - the IRS understands volunteer fundraising is common. Just make sure you have solid paper trail showing you never personally benefited and were always acting on behalf of the charity.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! Thank you so much for breaking it down step by step. I'm a bit worried about getting that charity acknowledgment letter dated close to when the event occurred since it's been a couple months now. Would it hurt my case if the letter is dated today but references the October event? Also, when you say "simple written statement explaining your role" - is that something I write myself or does it need to come from someone else? I really appreciate you sharing your experience!

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@Collins Angel A letter dated today but referencing the October event should be fine as long as it clearly states that you were acting as their volunteer fundraiser from the beginning and that the arrangement was established before/during the event even (if not formally documented at the time .)Many charities are used to providing these types of retroactive acknowledgment letters for volunteers. For the written statement explaining your role, you can write this yourself! It s'basically a simple narrative explaining: when you organized the event, that it was always intended as a fundraiser for the charity, your role as volunteer coordinator, and that you never intended to personally profit. Keep it factual and straightforward - something like I "organized a Halloween fundraiser on [date] as a volunteer for [charity name]. All ticket sales were intended to benefit the charity after covering event expenses. I acted solely as an organizer and conduit for funds. The" key is having consistent documentation that tells the same story across all your paperwork. Your bank records showing the transfer to the charity will be your strongest piece of evidence that this was always the intended outcome.

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