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I went through this exact same headache two years ago when I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA! The frustration is real, but don't give up - the savings are absolutely worth it. A few additional tips that helped me beyond what others have mentioned: 1. If you can't find Form 6251 in your TurboTax returns, check if you actually had AMT liability in previous years. If your rental depreciation differences were small, you might not have triggered AMT, meaning the "prior depreciation" amount could legitimately be zero. 2. Look for any worksheets labeled "AMT Depreciation Adjustment" or "Section 1250 Property" - sometimes TurboTax buries this info in supporting worksheets rather than the main forms. 3. If you're still stuck, consider calling FreeTaxUSA support directly. They're surprisingly helpful with these transition issues and can sometimes walk you through exactly what TurboTax information they need. I've saved over $800 in the past two years by switching away from TurboTax's inflated pricing. The one-time hassle of finding these carryover numbers is absolutely worth it. Once you get through this year, you'll have everything properly set up in FreeTaxUSA for future years. Don't let TurboTax win by forcing you back with their deliberately opaque record-keeping!
This is really helpful advice! Just wanted to add that I had a similar situation but discovered that TurboTax sometimes puts the AMT depreciation information in different places depending on which version you used (Basic, Deluxe, Premier, etc.). If you used TurboTax Premier for rental properties, definitely check the rental property worksheets in addition to Form 6251. I found my AMT prior depreciation buried in a "Rental Real Estate Depreciation Worksheet" that wasn't immediately obvious. Also agree 100% on not letting TurboTax force you back! I was so tempted to just pay their fees again to avoid the hassle, but I'm glad I stuck it out. The money I've saved over the past few years has been substantial, and FreeTaxUSA really is much more straightforward once you get past this initial transition hurdle.
I'm going through this exact same nightmare right now! Been using TurboTax for years and decided to switch to FreeTaxUSA to save money, but now I'm stuck on this AMT prior depreciation too. I have one rental property that I've owned for about 5 years, and I know there were some depreciation differences for AMT purposes, but finding the actual number is like searching for a needle in a haystack. Reading through all these responses is super helpful - I had no idea about the difference between the "taxpayer copy" and "full tax return" from TurboTax. I've definitely been looking at the wrong documents! Going to try downloading the complete returns with all the worksheets and see if I can locate Form 6251. Has anyone here actually calculated what they've saved by switching away from TurboTax? I'm curious if the annual savings really add up to enough to justify this headache. TurboTax quoted me $189 this year for my situation, while FreeTaxUSA is only $25. That's $164 in savings just this year, so I guess it's worth pushing through this frustration!
$164 in savings just this year definitely makes it worth the hassle! I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA three years ago and have saved over $450 total so far. The first year was frustrating with finding all these carryover amounts, but now that everything is set up properly in FreeTaxUSA, filing is actually easier than it ever was with TurboTax. For your rental property AMT depreciation, definitely download that full tax return like Sara mentioned. With 5 years of ownership, you should definitely have some AMT prior depreciation to report. Look specifically for Form 6251 line 2g or any worksheets labeled "AMT Adjustment" or "Depreciation Adjustment". One thing that helped me was making a simple spreadsheet tracking my regular vs AMT depreciation amounts each year once I found them. That way if I ever switch software again or need to reference these numbers, I have my own record. The annual savings really do add up - you'll probably save enough in just 2-3 years to pay for a nice vacation!
Has anyone considered the potential red flags of someone wanting to pay such a large amount upfront? In some cases it could be completely innocent, but I've heard of people using rent payments to launder money. Might be worth asking why they want to pay it all upfront.
This is actually a really good point. While there are legitimate reasons someone might want to pay upfront (like they received an inheritance or bonus, or they're bad at budgeting), it's worth being a little cautious. If they're paying with cash, that's a bigger red flag.
I'd also suggest getting references and doing a thorough background check if you haven't already, especially with such a large upfront payment. Legitimate tenants who want to pay in advance usually have good reasons - like they're relocating for work, received a windfall, or just prefer the convenience of not dealing with monthly payments. One practical tip: consider asking for the payment via bank transfer or certified check rather than cash, and make sure you provide a detailed receipt that breaks down exactly what months the payment covers. This creates a clear paper trail for both tax purposes and your own protection. Also, don't forget that you'll still need to provide the tenant with proper documentation at year-end (like a 1099 if applicable) showing the total rent they paid, even though you'll be reporting the income across multiple tax periods as others have mentioned.
Great advice about the payment method and documentation! I'm definitely leaning toward asking for a bank transfer or certified check rather than cash. The paper trail aspect makes me feel much more comfortable about the whole arrangement. Quick question - you mentioned providing a 1099 if applicable. When would that be required for a tenant? I thought 1099s were for contractors and business payments, not rent payments. Are there specific circumstances where I'd need to issue one to a renter? Also, @Aria Park, do you have any template language you'd recommend for the receipt that breaks down the monthly coverage? I want to make sure I'm documenting this properly from the start.
You're right to question the 1099 requirement - I misspoke there. You typically don't need to issue a 1099 to tenants for rent payments. The 1099 requirement is usually for payments to contractors or businesses, not individual renters. Thanks for catching that! For the receipt template, I'd suggest something like: **RENT PAYMENT RECEIPT** Date: [Payment Date] Tenant: [Full Name] Property: [Address] Total Amount Received: $15,500 **Payment Breakdown:** - January 2025: $1,292 - February 2025: $1,292 - [Continue for each month...] Payment Method: [Bank Transfer/Certified Check] Check Number: [If applicable] This payment represents prepaid rent for the period of [Start Date] through [End Date]. Any early termination will be subject to lease agreement terms regarding refunds. Keep copies of this receipt for your records and give the original to your tenant. Having everything clearly documented upfront will save you headaches later, especially come tax time.
25 One thing nobody's mentioned yet: you might need to pay STATE taxes too, not just federal! For me in California, I set aside an extra 8% just for state taxes on top of the 25% for federal. Check your state tax rates and factor that in!
Great point about state taxes! Since you're in Ohio, you'll need to factor in Ohio state income tax too. Ohio has a progressive income tax rate that ranges from 0% to 3.99%. For your income level (around $24k annually), you're probably looking at around 1-2% for state taxes. So I'd recommend setting aside about 27-30% total: roughly 25% for federal (income + self-employment tax) and 2-3% for Ohio state taxes. Ohio also requires quarterly estimated payments just like federal, so you can usually pay both at the same time. Don't forget Ohio also has local income taxes in many cities - check if your city has additional income tax requirements. Some cities in Ohio charge an additional 1-3% on top of state taxes. You can check the Ohio Department of Taxation website to see what applies to your specific location.
Quick question - if I'm using TurboTax, where exactly do I find the Form 8995? I think I qualify too but can't seem to locate it in the software.
In TurboTax, you need to enter your business income first (Schedule C), and then it should automatically ask about the QBI deduction. If it doesn't, search for "QBI" or "qualified business income" in the search bar at the top. You can also check under the "Deductions & Credits" section and look for "Business Income Deductions.
This is really helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my new freelance writing business that I started in September. Made about $2,800 in profit and was wondering if I qualified for the QBI deduction. Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like I should qualify under that same income threshold exception since writing is also typically considered an SSTB. My husband and I file jointly and our total income is around $195,000, so we're well under that $375,800 threshold. One thing I'm curious about - do we need to have any specific business structure (LLC, etc.) or does it work for sole proprietorships too? I'm just operating as a sole proprietor right now and reporting everything on Schedule C.
You absolutely qualify for the QBI deduction as a sole proprietor! The business structure doesn't matter - sole proprietorships, LLCs, S-Corps, and partnerships can all qualify for QBI. Since you're reporting on Schedule C, you're all set. With your joint income of $195,000 being well below the $375,800 threshold, your freelance writing business gets the full benefit despite being an SSTB. You'd get a 20% deduction on that $2,800 profit, which works out to about $560 - definitely worth claiming! The QBI deduction is specifically designed to help small business owners like us, regardless of how we're structured. Just make sure your tax software picks it up when you enter your Schedule C income.
Amina Sy
Don't forget to check your state tax rules too! Some states have more generous casualty loss provisions than federal, especially for declared disasters. In my state, we were able to deduct 100% of our hurricane losses on our state return even though we couldn't on the federal return because of the AGI limitation. Saved us about $300 on state taxes.
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Oliver Fischer
β’Good point! I think Florida doesn't have state income tax though, right? So if OP is in Florida where Milton hit hardest, this wouldn't apply. But definitely helpful for people in other states affected by the hurricane.
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Amina Sy
β’You're absolutely right about Florida not having state income tax - my mistake! I should have checked which states were in Milton's path before commenting. For anyone in Georgia or other states that were affected and do have state income tax, it's still worth checking your state's specific rules. Some states follow federal tax treatment for disasters while others have their own provisions. Thanks for the correction!
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Carmella Fromis
I went through this exact same situation with my fence after Hurricane Ian a couple years ago. One thing that really helped me was documenting the original installation cost and age of the fence - the IRS agent I spoke with said this was crucial for calculating the basis. Since you paid $3,900 for replacement and didn't file insurance, make sure you keep those contractor receipts. Also, if you can find any records of what you originally paid for the fence installation, that will help with the fair market value calculations Sofia mentioned. The federally declared disaster area status is definitely beneficial - it gives you that option to amend last year's return if it results in a bigger refund. I ended up doing that and got money back within about 8 weeks, which was much faster than waiting for this year's filing season. Just make sure to write "Hurricane Milton" on your return so the IRS knows it's disaster-related.
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Nia Harris
β’This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with hurricane damage too and wondering - when you amended your previous year's return, did you have to file a completely new Form 4684 or could you just attach it to the amended return? Also, do you remember if there was a deadline for choosing between claiming it on the current year vs. amending the previous year? I want to make sure I don't miss any time limits.
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