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Molly Hansen

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I just wanted to add my perspective as someone who went through this exact situation about 6 months ago. The Code 420 dependent verification really threw me off initially because nobody explains that "examination" and "audit" have different technical meanings in IRS-speak. What really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all my dependent-related expenses for the year - things like medical copays, school fees, clothing purchases, etc. I didn't need to provide every single receipt, but having that organized overview made it much easier to demonstrate that I was providing more than 50% support. One tip I haven't seen mentioned yet: if you have any joint custody situations or complex family arrangements, include a brief written explanation along with your documents. The IRS reviewers appreciate context, especially when living situations aren't straightforward. My timeline was almost exactly 9 weeks from mailing to resolution, and my full refund was released once they completed the verification. The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but it sounds like you have all the right documentation ready to go. Just remember - they're not trying to deny legitimate claims, they're just verifying eligibility due to increased scrutiny on tax credits. You've got this!

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NebulaNomad

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This is such a helpful addition to the conversation! The spreadsheet idea for tracking dependent expenses is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that when I was going through my verification. It would have made gathering support documentation so much easier and more organized. Your point about including written explanations for complex family situations is really important too. I had a somewhat complicated custody arrangement and wasn't sure how to present that clearly to the IRS reviewer. Your 9-week timeline is also consistent with what others have shared, which gives me confidence that this really is a predictable process once you submit everything properly. Thanks for adding your experience - it's reassuring to see so many people who made it through successfully!

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I went through this exact same Code 420 verification process about 4 months ago and can definitely relate to the confusion about terminology! The IRS rep was absolutely right - it's technically an "examination" but it's really just dependent verification, not a full audit of your entire return. Here's what worked for me: I created a simple checklist based on the letter they sent and gathered documents for each requirement. For relationship proof, I used birth certificates. For residency proof, I included school enrollment records and medical records that showed my address. For support proof, I gathered receipts for major expenses like daycare, medical copays, school supplies, and even some grocery receipts to show I was covering daily needs. The process took exactly 7 weeks from when I mailed everything back (certified mail with return receipt) to when my refund was released. One thing that really helped was including a brief cover letter that said something like "Enclosed please find the requested documentation for my Code 420 dependent verification" and then listed each document and which child it pertained to. Don't stress too much about having perfect documentation for every single expense - they understand that families don't keep receipts for everything. Focus on showing clear proof of relationship, that the kids live with you, and that you're providing their primary financial support. You already have the key documents gathered, so you're well-prepared! The waiting is definitely the hardest part, but these verifications are routine and straightforward when you respond promptly with organized documentation.

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Thank you for sharing such a detailed and organized approach! Your 7-week timeline is really encouraging, and I love how you created a checklist based on their letter - that's such a smart way to make sure you don't miss anything. The tip about the cover letter explaining what each document is for is something I definitely want to implement. It's reassuring to hear from so many people who went through this successfully by just being organized and responding promptly. Your point about not needing perfect documentation for every expense really helps ease my anxiety about this whole process. I feel much more confident now that I understand this is truly routine verification rather than something to panic about!

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Word of warning from someone who's been mining for 3 years - keep EXTREMELY detailed records of when you started using each piece of equipment. I got audited last year because my electricity deductions seemed high, and I had to prove when each GPU was put into service for proper depreciation. The IRS agent also wanted to see pictures of my setup to verify it was actually used for business. Not trying to scare anyone, just emphasizing good record keeping!

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Zara Shah

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Dang, that's good to know. I've been pretty casual about tracking so far. Did you end up owing more after the audit? And did they look at anything else besides the mining equipment?

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I ended up owing about $800 more plus a small penalty because I couldn't provide documentation for some of my claimed expenses (had thrown away some receipts). They also scrutinized my home office deduction since that's where my mining rigs were located. The audit was actually triggered by the combination of high electricity costs and home office deduction. My advice: save digital copies of every receipt, take dated photos of your setup whenever you add/remove equipment, and keep a simple log of when each component was put into service. It's a pain but worth it if you ever get that audit letter.

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Great thread everyone! As someone who just started mining last month, this is incredibly helpful. I wanted to add that if you're using multiple mining pools (like I am with NiceHash and Ethermine), make sure to track which coins came from which pool since they may have different fee structures that affect your deductions. Also, for those asking about solar panels - I'm in the planning stages for a solar setup specifically for mining. From what I've researched, you can potentially stack the federal solar tax credit (30%) with business deductions for the mining portion, but definitely get professional advice on this since it's complex. The IRS has specific rules about how to allocate costs between personal and business use of solar installations. One more tip: if you're mining in a state with net metering, keep detailed records of how much power you're feeding back to the grid versus consuming for mining. This affects both your tax calculations and potential income reporting if you're getting credits from the utility company.

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Has anyone considered the downside of the NUA strategy? Your mom would be keeping a HUGE concentration in a single stock (BOA) which carries significant risk. If BOA stock tanks after she takes the distribution but before she sells, she could lose a lot of money. The tax savings from NUA treatment has to be weighed against the risk of being so heavily invested in one company. My father-in-law did the NUA strategy with his GE stock in 2016, thinking the tax savings was worth it. The stock then crashed, and he lost way more than the tax savings would have been. Maybe consider doing NUA for just a portion of the BOA shares to reduce concentration risk?

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NeonNova

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This is such an important point that gets overlooked! I'm a financial advisor (not giving professional advice here, just personal experience) and I've seen the NUA strategy backfire spectacularly when people hold too long hoping for lower capital gains rates. The tax tail should never wag the investment dog.

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One critical detail that hasn't been fully addressed - your mom needs to be very careful about the timing of when she actually retires and takes the distribution. The NUA strategy requires that the entire 401(k) balance be distributed within the same tax year as a "triggering event" like separation from service. If she's planning to retire mid-year, she might want to consider whether it makes sense to retire at the beginning of the year to have more time to execute the strategy, or wait until January of the following year. This timing can significantly impact her tax situation, especially if she has other income in the retirement year. Also, make sure she understands that once she takes the BOA shares into a taxable account, she'll need to track the cost basis very carefully for when she eventually sells. The IRS will want clear documentation showing the original purchase prices versus the fair market value at distribution. Her 401(k) administrator should provide a detailed breakdown, but it's crucial to keep those records safe. Has her advisor calculated exactly what her tax liability would be on the cost basis portion? That immediate tax bill could be substantial and needs to be planned for.

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Justin Trejo

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I think this is actually a glitch in their system. The exact same thing happened to me a few months ago. The verification link disappeared from my account but I still needed to verify. I ended up having to call and wait on hold for ages, but the agent told me it's a known issue with their system - sometimes the verification link vanishes even though verification is still required. Total incompetence on their part.

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Abigail Patel

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That's what I was afraid of... their systems are so broken. Did you eventually get verified over the phone?

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Justin Trejo

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Yes, they verified me over the phone after asking a bunch of questions. They were actually pretty helpful once I finally got someone on the line. It just took forevvvver to get through. My refund came about 2 weeks after that call.

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Sophia Clark

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I had this exact same issue last year! The verification link disappeared from my account even though I still needed to verify. Here's what worked for me: 1. Try the direct ID.me link at idverify.irs.gov - sometimes it works even when the link in your account is gone 2. Call the verification line (800-830-5084) at exactly 7am Eastern when they open - I got through in about 15 minutes that way 3. If calling doesn't work, schedule an in-person appointment at your local IRS office through their website The phone verification was actually pretty straightforward once I got through. They asked me questions about my previous tax returns and verified me right over the phone. My refund was processed within 10 days after that. Don't panic about the 30-day deadline - as long as you're actively trying to verify, they usually work with you. The system is just incredibly broken and glitchy. Keep trying different methods until something works!

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This is super helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to try calling at 7am sharp tomorrow. It's reassuring to know that others have gotten through relatively quickly at that time. I was starting to panic about the 30-day deadline but you're right that I should keep trying different approaches. Did you need to have any specific documents ready when you called, besides the verification letter?

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You might want to report them to the IRS. Employers who pay cash and don't send 1099s are usually evading taxes themselves.

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Abby Marshall

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Facts! Form 3949-A is what you need to report tax fraud

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Ella Lewis

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Been through this exact situation! Here's what worked for me: 1) Document everything - screenshot your attempts to contact them, keep records of when you worked and how much you were paid. 2) You can report the income on your tax return even without the 1099 - use Schedule C-EZ if it was simple freelance work. 3) The IRS actually has a form (SS-8) to determine worker classification if you're unsure whether you were an employee or contractor. Don't stress too much - being honest about your income is what matters most, and the IRS understands these situations happen.

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