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Nia Wilson

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One thing to add to all this great advice - make sure your business bank account always maintains enough balance to cover your quarterly estimated tax payments. Since S-Corp profits pass through to your personal return, you'll likely owe estimated taxes throughout the year. I learned this the hard way when I transferred almost everything to my personal account early in the year, then got hit with a big estimated tax bill and had to scramble to move money back to the business account to make the payment. Your tax preparer's 80% suggestion might be accounting for this - keeping that 20% cushion for taxes and unexpected business expenses. Also, if you're making these transfers frequently, consider setting up a more systematic approach. I now do monthly distributions of a set amount, which makes the bookkeeping much cleaner and helps with cash flow planning.

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Yuki Sato

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This is such good advice about the quarterly payments! I'm just getting started with my S-Corp election and hadn't even thought about estimated taxes yet. When you say "systematic approach" with monthly distributions, do you base that amount on your previous year's profits or try to estimate current year earnings? I'm worried about taking too much early in the year if my income ends up being lower than expected.

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Carter Holmes

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Great question! I base my monthly distributions on a conservative estimate of current year earnings, usually around 70-80% of what I think I'll make. This helps avoid the cash flow crunch you mentioned. Here's what I do: At the beginning of each year, I estimate my total S-Corp profit, then calculate what I'll need for estimated taxes (usually around 25-30% of profit). I set aside that tax money first, then divide the remaining amount by 12 for monthly distributions. If my income ends up being higher than expected, I can always take additional distributions later in the year. If it's lower, I'm not scrambling to put money back into the business account. The key is being conservative with your estimates and always keeping that tax cushion untouched. Your tax preparer should be able to help you calculate reasonable estimates based on your business trends. Better to be cautious in year one of your S-Corp election while you figure out the rhythm!

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Omar Zaki

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I've been through this exact situation with my S-Corp LLC! Your tax preparer is correct - transferring money from your business account to personal account doesn't create additional tax liability since S-Corp profits already pass through to your personal tax return. You're already paying taxes on those business earnings whether the cash sits in the business account or your personal account. The 80% recommendation is likely about maintaining adequate business reserves for quarterly estimated tax payments (since you'll owe taxes on the pass-through income) and keeping some buffer for unexpected business expenses or opportunities. It's not a tax rule, just good financial planning. One important note: make sure every transfer is properly documented in your books as a "shareholder distribution" rather than just random transfers. Clean documentation is crucial if you're ever audited. Also, keep in mind that you need to maintain "reasonable salary" (which sounds like your tax preparer addressed by putting you on payroll) before taking distributions - this prevents the IRS from reclassifying distributions as wages subject to additional payroll taxes. Since you mentioned minimal business expenses, you might not need to keep as much in the business account as someone with higher overhead, but definitely keep enough for your quarterly tax obligations!

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Noah Torres

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This is really helpful, especially the point about documenting transfers as "shareholder distributions" rather than random transfers. I've been pretty sloppy with my record-keeping and just marked them as "owner withdrawals" in QuickBooks. Quick question - when you say "reasonable salary," is there a rule of thumb for what percentage that should be relative to total business profit? My current payroll salary is way lower than what I'm taking in distributions, and I'm wondering if that's going to be a red flag if I ever get audited. Also, do you handle the quarterly estimated tax payments from the business account or transfer money to personal first and then pay from there? I haven't made any estimated payments yet this year and starting to worry I'm going to owe a huge amount come tax time.

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Amara Adeyemi

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This thread has been incredibly thorough! I wanted to add one more angle that might be relevant for your situation: quarterly estimated tax payments. If either of you has income that isn't subject to withholding (freelance work, investment income, rental property, etc.), getting married can actually help with estimated tax payments since you can base them on your combined income and potentially avoid underpayment penalties more easily. Also, since you mentioned planning to buy a home after the wedding, don't forget about the first-time homebuyer benefits that are better for married couples. You can exclude up to $500,000 in capital gains when you eventually sell (vs $250,000 for singles), and if either of you qualifies as a first-time buyer, you can withdraw up to $10,000 from IRAs penalty-free for the home purchase - and that's $10,000 per person, so potentially $20,000 total as a married couple. One practical tip: regardless of when you decide to get married, consider doing a "practice run" of your taxes both ways using last year's numbers. Most tax software will let you see the comparison without actually filing. This will give you real numbers instead of estimates and help you feel more confident about your decision. The fact that you're thinking about this strategically puts you way ahead of most couples! Whatever timing you choose, you're clearly being thoughtful about the long-term financial implications.

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Omar Hassan

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This is such a comprehensive overview of all the considerations! The point about first-time homebuyer benefits is really important - that potential $20,000 IRA withdrawal ($10k each) for a home purchase could be huge for building up a down payment, especially since you mentioned planning to start house hunting after the wedding. The "practice run" suggestion is brilliant too. I'm definitely going to do that this weekend with our 2024 numbers to see the real impact rather than just estimating. It's one thing to theorize about tax benefits, but seeing the actual dollar amounts in tax software will make the decision much clearer. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice in this thread has been incredibly valuable. It's amazing how many interconnected factors there are - from student loans to retirement accounts to homebuying to Social Security. I think the key takeaway for us is that this isn't just about optimizing for 2025 taxes, but about setting ourselves up for the best long-term financial outcomes across multiple areas. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences and detailed calculations. This community is fantastic for working through complex financial decisions with people who actually understand the nuances involved!

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Wow, this thread has been absolutely incredible! As someone who just went through this exact decision process last year, I can confirm that taking the time to analyze all these factors is so worth it. My partner and I had nearly identical incomes to yours ($70k and $69k) and also had student loan considerations. We ended up using a combination of the strategies mentioned here - ran our numbers through tax software for the "practice run" that @c9d0c47c24f4 suggested, used the studentaid.gov calculator for loan payment projections, and created a comprehensive spreadsheet looking at 5-year scenarios. What we discovered was eye-opening: while we'd face about a $1,800/year increase in student loan payments by filing jointly, the combination of tax savings, increased HSA contribution room (we both had individual coverage), and better positioning for our planned home purchase in 2024 made the summer wedding timing worth it. The ability to use both our incomes for mortgage qualification plus the $500k capital gains exclusion for our future home sale sealed the deal. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here: don't forget to factor in any employer benefits that change with marital status! My partner's company offers better health insurance rates for spouses than individual coverage, which saved us $150/month we hadn't initially considered. The long-term wealth building advantages of higher Roth IRA limits and education credits really do add up over time. Sometimes the immediate student loan payment increase feels scary, but when you model it out over decades, the marriage benefits often win by a significant margin. Best of luck with your decision - sounds like you're approaching it exactly the right way!

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Eli Butler

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Has anyone used the "zero out retained earnings" approach with TurboTax for their final S-Corp return? My accountant mentioned this but didn't explain how to actually do it in the software.

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I did this last year. In TurboTax Business, go to the Balance Sheet section and look for Equity accounts. You'll need to create a distribution entry that exactly matches your remaining Retained Earnings. For example, if you have $5,000 in Retained Earnings, you'd record a $5,000 distribution to shareholders. This effectively zeroes out the equity side of your balance sheet.

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StarSailor}

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I went through this exact same situation when closing my S-Corp earlier this year. The balance sheet errors in TurboTax are usually caused by not properly accounting for where your cash went when you distributed it to yourself. Here's what worked for me: In TurboTax, you need to record that $4,200 as a "Distribution to Shareholders" under the equity section, not as an expense. This creates the proper offsetting entry that balances your books - cash goes down by $4,200, and shareholder equity (retained earnings) also goes down by $4,200. For the disposed assets, since you mentioned they were old equipment, make sure you're removing both the original cost AND the accumulated depreciation from your books. If they were fully depreciated, this should net to zero impact. One thing that caught me off guard - make sure your final balance sheet shows zero equity at year-end if you're completely liquidating. All retained earnings need to be distributed out to shareholders for the books to properly reflect a dissolved corporation. The IRS has specific requirements for S-Corp dissolution, so double-check that you're filing Form 966 in addition to your final 1120-S return. Good luck with the closure!

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Diego Rojas

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This is really helpful! I'm just starting to look into closing my S-Corp and had no idea about Form 966. When you say "zero equity at year-end" - does that mean I need to distribute out literally everything, including any remaining cash in the business account? And do I need to file Form 966 before or after the final 1120-S? The timing seems important but I can't find clear guidance on the IRS website.

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Filed on 2/14: Transcript shows -$5,849 balance with changing "As Of Date" to March 2025 - Is this my refund amount?

So I submitted my tax return on Valentine's Day (Feb 14) and it got accepted right away. I've been checking my transcript online and noticed something weird - the "As Of Date" keeps changing! Right now it shows March 24, 2025. But last week it said something else, and it keeps shifting around. My transcript shows this at the top: ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT --- ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$5,849.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 24, 2025 ACCRUED PENALTY: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 24, 2025 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$5,849.00 Does this negative balance mean I'm getting a refund? Or do I somehow owe money? I'm confused about what the minus sign means here. The transcript also shows all this information: ** INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED ** EXEMPTIONS: 02 FILING STATUS: Head of Household ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: 0 TAXABLE INCOME: $2,201.00 TAX PER RETURN: 0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: 0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: 0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: 0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 15, 2025 PROCESSING DATE: Feb. 24, 2025 And then there's all these transaction codes: TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION | CYCLE | DATE | AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed | 20250605 | 02-24-2025 | $0.00 30211-428-22712-5 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding | | 04-15-2025 | $161.00 766 Credit to your account | | 04-15-2025 | -$1,700.00 768 Earned income credit | | 04-15-2025 | -$3,988.00 I filed as Head of Household with 2 dependents. My return isn't complicated at all, so I don't understand why the "As Of Date" keeps changing and what exactly this negative balance means. The transcript says "ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT" but I'm still confused. Does that mean I'm getting $5,849.00 back? And why do some of the transactions show dates in April when it's still only February? Anyone know what's going on with all this?

Welcome to the community! I can definitely help clarify this for you. That negative balance of -$5,849 is actually excellent news - it means the IRS owes YOU that money as your refund! The minus sign indicates a credit on your account, which I know seems backwards but that's just how their system works. The changing "As Of" date is completely normal and happens when the IRS runs routine system maintenance and updates. Since you're getting a refund (not owing money), this date has absolutely no impact on your refund timing - it would only matter if you owed them money and they were calculating interest. Your transcript shows your return was processed on February 24th (that's the 150 code), so you should see your refund hit your account within 1-3 weeks of that date if it hasn't already. All your transaction codes look perfectly normal for Head of Household with dependents and earned income credit. Pro tip: The "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website is much more reliable for actual timing than trying to decode all these transcript details. Once you see an 846 code appear on your transcript with a date, that's when you'll know the refund has been officially sent to your bank. Hope this helps ease the confusion - the IRS definitely doesn't make their systems newcomer-friendly! 😊

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Carmella Fromis

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation and warm welcome to the community! As someone who's never dealt with tax transcripts before, I was really confused by that minus sign - it's so counterintuitive that negative actually means good news! Your explanation about the "As Of" date being just routine system maintenance really puts my mind at ease. I've been obsessively checking that date thinking something was wrong with my return. I'll definitely focus on the "Where's My Refund" tool instead and watch for that 846 code you mentioned. It's incredible how helpful and patient everyone here is with newcomers like me trying to navigate all this confusing IRS terminology for the first time! 😊

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StarSeeker

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Welcome to the community! That negative balance is definitely your refund - congrats on getting $5,849 back! The minus sign threw me off when I first started checking transcripts too, but it just means the IRS owes YOU money. The changing "As Of" date is totally normal and nothing to stress about. It's just their computer systems doing routine updates and maintenance. Since you're getting a refund instead of owing money, that date doesn't affect your refund timing at all. Your return was processed on 2/24 (that 150 code), so your refund should hit your account soon if it hasn't already. Everything on your transcript looks completely standard for Head of Household with dependents and EIC. Just keep checking "Where's My Refund" for the most accurate timing - it's way easier to understand than trying to decode all these transcript codes! 😊

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Demi Lagos

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Thank you so much for the welcome and explanation! This is my first time checking a tax transcript and I was honestly getting pretty anxious seeing that minus sign and all those changing dates. It's such a relief to know that negative balance means I'm actually getting money back - the IRS really doesn't make this intuitive at all! I've been checking "Where's My Refund" obsessively and it shows my refund is approved, so hopefully it hits my account soon. Really appreciate how welcoming and helpful everyone in this community is to newcomers like me who are still figuring out all this tax stuff! 😊

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Laila Fury

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A word of caution from someone who's been burned by this before - make sure you understand your company's PTO policies!! At my last job, all unused vacation time automatically paid out at the end of the year, which meant I couldn't actually avoid the tax impact, just delay it. Check if your company has: - Use it or lose it policy - Automatic cash-out at year end - Caps on vacation accrual These can all affect whether the vacation time actually helps reduce your taxes or just delays the inevitable.

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Good point! My company has a "use it or lose it" policy but they make exceptions for these bonus vacation days. They let us carry them over for 18 months before they expire. No automatic cash-out though.

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Diego Vargas

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation where my company is offering bonus vacation time vs cash, and I was leaning toward the cash initially. But after reading everyone's experiences, I think I'm going to go with the vacation time instead. One thing I want to add - make sure you also consider the timing of when you'd actually use the vacation days. If you're planning to take time off anyway and would be using unpaid leave, then the bonus vacation time is essentially "free money" since you'd get paid for those days off instead of losing income. Also, for anyone worried about the complexity of tax rules, it sounds like there are some good resources mentioned here for getting clear answers. I might check out that AI tax service since I have some other questions about how this interacts with my HSA contributions and 401k limits.

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