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moved 3 times in 2 years and the 8822 worked fine each time. just make sure u follow the instructions exactly or theyll reject it
I actually work for a tax prep company and can confirm Form 8822 is usually the fastest route. Pro tip: send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery. The IRS processes these in the order they receive them, so certified mail with tracking gives you peace of mind. Also make sure to include your SSN and sign it - those are the most common reasons for rejection that cause delays.
3 Does anyone know if donating stuff instead of money makes any difference tax-wise? I have a bunch of clothes and furniture I could donate to Goodwill instead of giving cash to charities.
8 Donating items instead of cash still counts as a charitable contribution, but there are some important differences: For non-cash donations, you generally deduct the fair market value of the items (what they would sell for in used condition, not what you paid for them new). For donations over $250, you'll need a receipt from the charity. For donations over $500, you'll need to fill out Form 8283, and for donations over $5,000, you typically need a qualified appraisal.
3 Thanks for the clear explanation! So I'd still face the same problem as with cash donations - I'd need to itemize to get any tax benefit. Guess I'll donate my stuff anyway since it helps the charity, but I won't count on any tax breaks.
One thing to consider is using a donor-advised fund (DAF) if you're planning to give regularly. You can contribute a larger lump sum to the DAF in a year when you itemize (like if you have higher medical expenses or other deductions), get the immediate tax deduction, then distribute the funds to your chosen charities over multiple years. For example, you could contribute $3,000-4,000 to a DAF in a year when itemizing makes sense, then recommend grants of $1,300 annually to your preferred charities. This gives you more control over the timing of your tax deduction while still supporting the causes you care about consistently. Many brokerage firms like Fidelity, Vanguard, and Schwab offer DAFs with low minimum contributions and fees. Just another strategy to consider as your giving grows over time!
That's a really smart approach I hadn't considered! The donor-advised fund strategy seems like it could work well with the bunching method others mentioned. So in years when I have higher medical expenses or other deductions that might push me closer to itemizing, I could front-load multiple years of charitable giving into the DAF and get the tax benefit, then distribute it out over time. Do you know what the typical minimum contribution is for these DAFs at the major brokerages? And are there any downsides or restrictions I should be aware of before going this route?
I'd recommend attaching Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) along with your 9465 if you're requesting a payment plan for a larger amount or if you can't afford what would normally be the minimum payment. This form shows your income, expenses, assets, and debts. It's extra paperwork but it helps prove to the IRS what you can actually afford to pay each month and increases your chances of getting approved for lower monthly payments if you're truly in a financial hardship situation.
Is that required? I'm trying to do this quickly and don't want to fill out more forms than I need to.
Form 433-F isn't required for all installment agreements, but it's highly recommended if you owe more than $25,000 or if you can't afford the standard minimum payment amounts that the IRS typically expects. If you owe less and can propose a reasonable monthly payment that will clear your debt within 72 months, you can often get by with just the 9465. However, if your financial situation is tight and you need to propose a lower payment amount, the 433-F helps justify why you can't pay more. It's basically your financial proof that supports your payment proposal. Without it, the IRS might just reject a low payment proposal assuming you can afford more.
One thing I wish someone had told me when I filled out my Form 9465 is to double-check your Social Security Number and the tax year you're requesting the installment agreement for. I made a simple typo in my SSN and it delayed my application by weeks while they tried to match it to my account. Also, if you're married filing jointly, make sure you're clear about whether both spouses are requesting the installment agreement or just one of you. This was confusing for me since my spouse and I file jointly but only I was responsible for the additional tax owed. The IRS website has a payment estimator tool that can help you figure out what monthly payment amount to propose, but honestly the explanations here about the 72-month rule and adding buffer for interest are really helpful. Good luck with your application!
Thanks for mentioning the SSN double-check tip! I'm getting ready to fill out my own 9465 and hadn't even thought about that kind of simple mistake causing delays. Quick question - when you say "payment estimator tool" on the IRS website, is that something separate from the form itself? I've been looking around their site but it's pretty confusing to navigate.
Thanks everyone for the detailed responses! This is incredibly helpful. I've been checking sporadically throughout the day but clearly I need to adjust my strategy to those early morning hours. @Ethan Taylor - your documentation is amazing, that level of detail gives me confidence there's actually a predictable pattern here. I'll start checking consistently between 1-3am ET starting tonight. One follow-up question: once the transcript does update, how quickly do you typically see the actual refund hit your bank account? I'm hoping to time some bill payments around the deposit.
From my experience, once your transcript shows the 846 refund code with a deposit date, you can typically expect the funds to hit your account within 1-3 business days of that date. The IRS usually processes direct deposits overnight, so if your transcript shows a Friday deposit date, you'll likely see it in your account by Monday morning (assuming no banking holidays). For bill payment timing, I'd recommend waiting until you actually see the deposit before scheduling anything critical - sometimes there can be slight delays on the banking side even when the IRS releases the funds on schedule.
I've been tracking this for years and want to add some nuance to the excellent advice already shared. While the 12am-3am ET window is accurate, I've noticed that identity verification cases often follow a slightly different pattern. After verification, your transcript may show what's called a "processing hold" code (usually 570 or 971) before the actual refund information appears. This can add 1-2 additional processing cycles beyond the standard timeframe. Also, pro tip: if you're checking obsessively like most of us do, try using the mobile IRS2Go app in addition to the website - sometimes one updates before the other due to different caching systems. I've seen my app show updates up to 4 hours before the desktop site reflected the same information. The key is patience after verification - it's almost always longer than the standard processing time, but the refund does eventually come through.
This is incredibly detailed - thank you! The processing hold codes you mentioned (570/971) are exactly what I was worried about seeing. Quick question: when you experienced those hold codes after identity verification, how long did it typically take to move from the hold to seeing the actual 846 refund code? I'm trying to set realistic expectations since this is my first time dealing with the verification process. Also, great tip about the mobile app - I had no idea there could be timing differences between platforms!
Jamal Wilson
I'm going through the exact same thing! Filed my CA return on March 10th and it's been 6.5 weeks now with just the generic "processing" status. My federal refund was deposited within 10 days, so it's definitely a California-specific issue. What's really frustrating is how their website gives zero useful information - just "processing" with no timeline or indication of what's actually happening. After reading through all these comments, it sounds like 6-10 weeks is unfortunately becoming the new normal for CA this year due to their enhanced fraud prevention measures. I'm planning to wait until the 8-week mark before attempting to call, since everyone seems to be having terrible experiences with their phone system. At least it's somewhat comforting to know we're all in the same boat - misery loves company I guess! Definitely going to start checking my mailbox more carefully too after seeing how many people got important notices that never showed up in their online status.
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Amara Okonkwo
ā¢I'm in week 9 myself and honestly starting to lose hope! Filed March 2nd and still nothing but that useless "processing" message. It's crazy how their system can be so behind compared to the IRS - you'd think state taxes would be simpler to process. I finally bit the bullet and called yesterday. Waited 2.5 hours on hold only to be told "it's in queue for review" with no timeline. The agent couldn't even tell me WHY it was flagged for review. So basically learned nothing except that I wasted half my day. At this point I'm just hoping it shows up before summer ends š Good luck to all of us still waiting!
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Nia Johnson
I'm experiencing the exact same issue - filed my CA return on March 5th and it's been over 7 weeks now with nothing but that unhelpful "processing" status. My federal refund came through in 12 days, so this is definitely a California-specific problem. After reading through all these comments, it's clear that CA has major systemic issues this year. The 6-10 week delays seem to be the unfortunate new reality due to their enhanced fraud prevention measures. What's particularly frustrating is how their online system provides zero transparency - just that generic "processing" message with no timeline or explanation. I've been checking my mail religiously after seeing how many people here received important notices that never showed up in their online status. It's concerning that their systems are so disconnected in 2025. Planning to wait until the 8-week mark before attempting to call, though based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like their customer service is pretty much useless anyway. At least we're all suffering together! Hang in there everyone - hopefully our refunds start showing up soon.
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