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2023 Amended Return Stalled - No Progress Since Oct 2 Freeze Removal, Missing Return Data Despite 3 ID Verifications

I've had to verify my identity 3 times for my 2023 amended return - once in person and twice by phone. Looking at my transcript from 10-22-2024 (tracking number 106787887063), I can see exactly what's been happening. Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data Request Date: 10-22-2024 Response Date: 10-22-2024 Tracking Number: 106787887063 Account Transcript ER: 1040 TAX PERIOD: " 2023 ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT --- ACCOUNT BALANCE: 0.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: 0.00 AS OF: Oct. 28, 2024 ACCRUED PENALTY: 0.00 AS OF: Oct. 28, 2024 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): 0.00 INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED .. EXEMPTIONS: 00 FILING STATUS: Head of Household ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: TAXABLE INCOME: TAX PER RETURN: SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT No tax return filed 810 Refund freeze 04-25-2024 $0.00 971 Amended tax return or claim 07-17-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 977 Amended return filed 07-17-2024 $0.00 43277-601-01739-4 811 Removed refund freeze 10-02-2024 $0.00 A refund freeze (code 810) was placed on April 25, 2024, then I filed my amendment on July 17, 2024 (shown by codes 971 and 977, amended tax return forwarded for processing and amended return filed). The freeze was finally removed on October 2, 2024 (code 811 removed refund freeze), but there's been absolutely no movement since then. My transcript shows $0.00 for account balance, accrued interest, and penalties as of October 28, 2024. It's listed as "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" even though I filed as Head of Household. The transcript confirms my filing status as Head of Household with 00 exemptions, but all the income fields are blank. There's no adjusted gross income, taxable income, or tax per return listed. No self-employment tax information either. I've gone through all these identity verifications, and the freeze was lifted over three weeks ago, but I'm still waiting for any progress. What's going on with my return? Why is there still no movement weeks after the freeze was removed? The transcript clearly shows the freeze was removed with code 811 on 10-02-2024, but nothing has happened since then. Is it normal for it to say "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" when I can see my filing status is recorded as Head of Household?

Liv Park

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Pro tip: Keep checking your transcript weekly. Sometimes they move faster than the Where's My Refund tool shows.

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I'm going through something similar with my 2022 amended return. Been waiting since August and just had my second ID verification last week. Your transcript breakdown is super helpful - I need to pull mine to see if I have those same transaction codes. The "RETURN NOT PRESENT" thing is confusing when they clearly have your filing status on file. Hoping yours moves soon since the freeze is lifted! šŸ¤ž

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Based on all the excellent advice here, I want to emphasize one more practical consideration: even if you successfully get more of your bonus upfront through questionable W-4 changes, you're essentially giving yourself an interest-free loan that you'll have to pay back at tax time. Instead of risking compliance issues, consider these cash flow alternatives: - If you have urgent expenses, look into a short-term personal loan or line of credit - Ask family or friends for a temporary loan if possible - See if you can negotiate payment plans for your urgent expenses - Check if your employer offers payroll advances or emergency hardship programs Many people don't realize that most financial institutions offer short-term lending options that might cost less in interest than the potential penalties and stress of IRS scrutiny. Plus, you maintain a clean tax compliance record. The tax professionals and compliance experts in this thread have made it clear that the risks far outweigh the temporary benefits. Your future self will thank you for handling this situation legally and responsibly, even if it means less immediate cash in hand.

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Nia Thompson

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This is such a practical perspective that really puts things in proper context! You're absolutely right that manipulating withholding is essentially just shifting when you pay the same amount - except with added legal risks and stress. Your point about exploring legitimate borrowing options instead is brilliant. A short-term personal loan with transparent interest rates and terms is so much better than potentially triggering IRS scrutiny or penalties. At least with a regular loan, you know exactly what you're getting into and there are consumer protections. I hadn't thought about employer hardship programs either - many companies do offer payroll advances or emergency assistance that could address urgent financial needs without any tax complications. It's worth asking HR about these options before considering anything questionable with withholding. The "interest-free loan to yourself" framing really clicks for me. When you think about it that way, plus factor in the stress and potential consequences, it becomes clear that there are much better ways to handle temporary cash flow issues. Thanks for adding this perspective - it really helps put the whole situation in the right light!

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After reading through all these responses, I'm really glad I asked this question here before doing something I would have regretted. The consensus is pretty clear that claiming exempt when you don't qualify is a bad idea, both legally and practically. What's been most helpful is learning about the legitimate alternatives - adjusting allowances temporarily instead of claiming exempt, understanding how different companies handle bonus withholding, and exploring other cash flow options like short-term loans or employer hardship programs. The point about IRS algorithms flagging suspicious W-4 timing patterns really opened my eyes. I had no idea they actively monitor for these kinds of changes around bonus payments. That alone makes it not worth the risk. I think my next steps will be: 1) Talk to payroll about how they specifically handle bonus withholding, 2) Look into whether my company has any emergency assistance programs, and 3) Maybe consult with a tax professional about legitimate ways to optimize my withholding for the rest of the year. Thanks everyone for steering me away from what could have been a costly mistake. Sometimes the "quick fix" isn't actually the smart fix!

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Miguel Silva

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Has anyone actually done this successfully? I started something similar last year and ended up with a donor-advised fund instead because the legal and compliance requirements for a private foundation were too intense. The annual reporting alone was going to cost me thousands in accounting fees.

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I actually set up a private foundation successfully about 3 years ago. The key is having good advisors from the start. Yes, there are compliance requirements, but they're manageable if you set up good systems. The 990-PF filing is complex but not impossible.

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I've been through this exact process and can share some practical insights. You're right that this sounds like a private foundation structure, and yes, it's absolutely doable with proper planning. A few key things I learned during my setup: 1. The "sole member" aspect is perfectly legal, but you'll still need independent directors on your board to satisfy IRS requirements. I structured mine with me as the sole voting member, but with 3 independent directors who handle day-to-day operations and conflict of interest oversight. 2. For the investment growth strategy - this works, but be very careful about the types of investments you choose. The "jeopardizing investments" rules are stricter than most people realize. Stick to conservative, diversified portfolios initially. 3. Your 5% annual distribution plan is solid, but make sure you're calculating it correctly. It's based on the fair market value of your non-charitable use assets, averaged over the prior 3 years. The IRS has specific rules about what counts toward this requirement. 4. Documentation is crucial. Keep detailed records showing that all decisions benefit the charitable purpose, not personal interests. The IRS will scrutinize transactions between you and the foundation very closely. One unexpected benefit: having this structure has actually made my charitable giving more strategic and impactful. The multi-year planning horizon lets you tackle bigger projects than you could with annual donations. Happy to answer specific questions about the setup process if helpful.

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Has anyone else noticed that FAFSA's website is completely unhelpful about the tax implications of their aid? I spent hours trying to figure this out last year and ended up having to call my school's financial aid office.

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Right? The whole system is intentionally confusing. My financial aid office told me one thing, the IRS website said another, and my tax preparer had a completely different take. I ended up reporting everything conservatively just to avoid trouble later.

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Thanks for commiserating with me! It's absolutely ridiculous how difficult they make this information to find. I'm convinced it's intentional at this point. I eventually found that Publication 970 from the IRS had the most detailed information, though it's still written in that horrible tax language that normal humans can't easily understand. Definitely recommend having your school's financial aid office put in writing how much of your aid was loans vs grants, and how it was applied.

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Oliver Weber

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago and totally understand your stress! Here's what I learned that might help: First, take a deep breath - with your income level and withholding, you're very unlikely to end up owing money. Your $12,000 in earned income is well below the standard deduction threshold, so even if some of your FAFSA money is taxable, you'll probably still get a refund. The key thing is to separate your loans from your grants. Loans are NEVER taxable income - you're borrowing money that you have to pay back, so the IRS doesn't count it. For grants, only the portion used for non-qualified expenses (like room and board) is potentially taxable. Here's what really helped me: I made a simple spreadsheet listing all my school expenses (tuition, required fees, required books) and compared it to my total grant money. If your grants were less than or equal to those qualified expenses, none of it is taxable. If there was excess, only that excess amount gets added to your taxable income. And don't worry about not being full-time - you can still claim education credits for part-time enrollment! The American Opportunity Credit is available for the first four years of post-secondary education regardless of whether you're full or part-time. You're doing the right thing by filing your taxes. Given your situation, I'm confident you'll get money back, not owe it!

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This is such great advice, thank you! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I never thought to break it down that systematically. I'm going to gather all my financial aid documents this weekend and create that comparison you mentioned. One quick question though - when you say "required books," does that include things like online access codes for homework platforms? My chemistry class required a $200 digital access code that wasn't technically a textbook. I'm hoping that counts as a qualified expense since it was mandatory for the course. Also, it's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same situation. All the tax websites make it sound so complicated, but your explanation makes it seem much more manageable!

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Just wanted to add my experience since I went through this exact situation last year with my daughter. I paid her $425 for social media help with my consulting business. I ended up putting it on line 48 (Other expenses) with the description "Contract services - family member" after consulting with a CPA. The reasoning was that it provides clearer documentation for the IRS about the nature of the payment, especially since no 1099 was issued. One thing I learned that might help others - make sure you and your daughter are consistent about how you both report this. I reported it as a contractor payment on my Schedule C, so she needed to report it as self-employment income on her Schedule C (even though it was under $600). The IRS can cross-reference these if they want to, so consistency is key. Also, even without a formal contract, I created a simple written record of what work she did and when, along with copies of her deliverables (social media posts, graphics she made, etc.). This gave me solid backup documentation in case of questions later. The amount doesn't matter for deduction purposes - you get the same $387 deduction whether it goes on line 11 or line 48. It's really just about clear documentation and making sure both parties report consistently.

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Nia Davis

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This is really helpful! I'm new to running a small business and have been worrying about getting everything exactly right. Your point about consistency between both tax returns makes a lot of sense - I hadn't thought about the IRS potentially cross-referencing them. Quick question: when you created that written record of her work, did you have her sign it too, or was it just your own documentation? And did you pay her by check or cash? I'm trying to figure out the best way to document the payment trail for my records. Also appreciate the reminder that the deduction amount is the same either way - I was getting caught up in thinking one method might be "more correct" than the other when really it's just about documentation clarity.

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StarSurfer

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I've been dealing with similar questions about family member payments for my home-based business. One thing that helped me was understanding that the IRS doesn't really care which line you use (11 vs 48) as long as the expense is legitimate and properly documented. What I found most important was creating a clear paper trail. Even for small amounts like your $387, I recommend: 1. Write up a simple agreement or work order describing what your daughter did 2. Keep records of when the work was performed 3. Document how you paid her (check, Venmo, etc.) 4. Have her create basic invoices for the work The "Other expenses" approach on line 48 with a description like "Contract services - family member" or "Freelance work - under $600" seems to be the preferred method among tax professionals I've spoken with. It's more transparent and less likely to raise questions since you're clearly indicating this was a small contractor payment that didn't require a 1099. Just make sure your daughter reports it correctly on her return. If this was her only freelance income and she's not running a regular business, she might be able to report it as "Other income" instead of setting up a whole Schedule C, which could save her from self-employment taxes.

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! I really like your point about creating a clear paper trail even for smaller amounts. Your checklist approach makes it feel much more manageable. One follow-up question - you mentioned that if this was her only freelance income, she might be able to report it as "Other income" instead of Schedule C to avoid self-employment taxes. Is there a specific threshold or rule that determines when someone should use Schedule C vs Other income? My daughter doesn't have any other business income, so this could potentially save her some money if it applies to our situation. Also, thanks for the specific wording suggestions for line 48. "Freelance work - under $600" seems like it would be very clear to anyone reviewing the return about what this expense represents.

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