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Based on my experience and what I've seen here, "Investor" is definitely the safest and most accurate choice for your situation. Since you're trading securities to generate capital gains (not running a business or providing services), that's exactly what an investor does - even if you're doing it actively. The key thing is that your occupation should match how you're actually filing your taxes. Since you don't qualify for trader tax status, you'll be reporting everything as capital gains on Schedule D, which aligns perfectly with listing "Investor" as your occupation. Don't overthink it - the IRS has seen plenty of people who left traditional jobs to trade full-time. As long as you're accurately reporting all your gains/losses and paying the right taxes, your occupation designation won't be an issue. I'd stick with "Investor" and move forward with confidence.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat - left my corporate job last year to trade full-time but definitely don't meet the trader tax status requirements. I was leaning toward "Self-employed" but "Investor" makes way more sense given that I'm reporting everything as capital gains rather than business income. Thanks for clarifying that the occupation should align with how you're actually filing - that's the key piece I was missing!
I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I transitioned from my corporate job to full-time trading. After consulting with a tax professional and doing extensive research, I can confirm that "Investor" is absolutely the correct occupation to list. The distinction is important: investors buy and sell securities to generate capital gains/losses (which is what you're doing), while traders who qualify for trader tax status are considered to be in the business of trading and report their income differently on Schedule C. Since you mentioned you don't qualify for trader tax status, you'll be reporting your gains and losses on Schedule D and Form 8949 - which is exactly what investors do. Your occupation designation should align with how you're filing your taxes. One additional tip: keep good records of your trading activity and any investment-related expenses. While most investment expenses aren't currently deductible, having organized records shows you're treating this seriously as your occupation, not just as a hobby. Don't worry about audit flags - the IRS sees plenty of people who trade as their primary income source. As long as you're accurately reporting everything and paying the appropriate taxes, listing "Investor" won't raise any red flags.
This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was looking for! I really appreciate you sharing your experience from going through the same transition. The point about keeping organized records even though most investment expenses aren't deductible is smart - it definitely shows you're treating trading as a legitimate occupation rather than just a hobby. One quick question - when you say "investment-related expenses," are you referring to things like trading platform fees, data subscriptions, and educational materials? Or are there other categories I should be tracking?
FYI - TurboTax handles 1099-B and Form 8949 reporting much better than TaxSlayer in my experience. I switched this year after having similar frustrations. They have a direct import feature that works with most brokerages, and they're much clearer about how to handle wash sales and basis reporting. Yes, it costs more, but when you're dealing with investment transactions, the extra guidance is worth it. They also have much better support if you get stuck.
I see people recommending TurboTax for everything, but it's so expensive compared to TaxSlayer! Is it really that much better for investment reporting? Does it generate Form 8949 correctly? I day trade so I have hundreds of transactions...
For day trading with hundreds of transactions, TurboTax is definitely worth the extra cost. It handles bulk imports much better than TaxSlayer and automatically generates Form 8949 correctly. The wash sale calculations are also more reliable when you have that volume of trades. However, if you're already stuck in TaxSlayer for this year, you might want to check out taxr.ai like others mentioned above. It can help organize your transactions properly for TaxSlayer's format, which could save you from having to switch mid-filing. But definitely consider TurboTax for next year - the time savings alone justify the price when you're dealing with day trading volumes.
I had the exact same frustration with TaxSlayer and stock reporting last year! One thing that helped me was understanding that you absolutely do NOT need to report every single transaction if your broker already reported the basis to the IRS (which Fidelity usually does for covered securities). Here's what worked for me: Look at your 1099-B and find the summary totals at the bottom of each section (short-term vs long-term). If the "basis reported to IRS" box is checked, you can enter these as summary transactions in TaxSlayer instead of individual trades. For the dates, use "VARIOUS" for acquisition date and 12/31/2023 for sale date when doing summary reporting. This is totally acceptable and saves hours of data entry. For wash sales in TaxSlayer: When you're entering your 1099-B info, there's a section that asks about "adjustments" - that's where the wash sale amounts go. Just enter the total wash sale adjustment from your 1099-B summary (it should be clearly labeled). The key is to match exactly what's on your 1099-B totals - don't overthink it! TaxSlayer will generate Form 8949 automatically based on what you enter.
Has anyone here used TaxAct for partnership returns? Their software is cheaper than the bigger names but I'm not sure if it handles all the schedules properly.
I've used TaxAct for my 3-person LLC for the last two years. It works fine for basic partnership returns and does include all the schedules (B-1, B-2, K-1s). The interface isn't as polished as TurboTax but it's way cheaper. One thing to watch for - make sure you double check the K-1 allocations. Last year it defaulted to equal distributions for everything and I had to manually adjust some items that weren't split 33/33/33. But for a 50/50 partnership like the OP's, that probably wouldn't be an issue.
Just wanted to share my experience since I was in a similar situation last year with a small LLC partnership. You're absolutely right that the IRS website can be confusing! The key thing that helped me was realizing that Form 1065 is basically a "package deal" - all those schedules (B-1, B-2, and the K-1s) are considered part of the main return and go to the same address. Think of it like sending a book with multiple chapters rather than separate documents. One tip that saved me stress: if you're getting close to the deadline, definitely consider e-filing instead of mailing. The confirmation is instant, and you don't have to worry about postal delays or whether the IRS actually received your package. Most basic tax software can handle a simple 50/50 partnership return like yours. Also, make sure you keep copies of everything for your records, especially those K-1s since you'll both need them for your personal tax returns. Good luck with the filing!
Has anyone tried just using the IRS "Get Transcript" tool to download the actual 1099Bs? Sometimes the online version shows more details than what they mail you.
One thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet with all the mystery 1099Bs from my transcript, then systematically going through each investment account statement from the tax year. I included columns for the last 4 digits of the TIN, the dollar amounts, and transaction dates. What I discovered was that some of my "mystery" 1099Bs were actually from dividend reinvestment plans (DRIPs) that I had completely forgotten about. These often get their own separate reporting even when they're associated with stocks you hold in your main brokerage account. Also check if you have any old retirement accounts or 401(k)s from previous employers. Sometimes when you do rollovers or transfers, there can be interim reporting from custodial companies that generates 1099Bs you wouldn't expect. The amounts are usually small but they still need to be accounted for properly. If all else fails, you might want to consider getting a tax professional to help reconcile everything. It's frustrating to pay for something you feel like you should be able to figure out yourself, but the peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with dozens of forms.
Julian Paolo
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A) which can give you a deduction of up to 20% of your qualified business income! This is separate from your business expenses on Schedule C and can really help reduce your tax bill as a 1099 worker. Also, make sure you're tracking and deducting your self-employment tax payments. You can deduct 50% of your self-employment tax on your 1040, which helps offset some of the extra tax burden from being self-employed.
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Ella Knight
β’Wait, is the 20% QBI deduction automatic or do I have to calculate something? I do gig work too and never heard of this!
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Julian Paolo
β’It's not completely automatic - you need to calculate it, but it's not overly complicated for most gig workers. Basically, if your taxable income is below $170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers (2023 numbers), you can generally take a deduction equal to 20% of your qualified business income. Your qualified business income is essentially your net profit from Schedule C - your 1099 income minus your business expenses. The calculation gets more complex if you're above those income thresholds or in certain service businesses, but for most gig workers it's straightforward. Definitely worth looking into as it can significantly reduce your taxable income!
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William Schwarz
You might also want to look into setting up a SEP IRA or Solo 401(k) for retirement. As a 1099 contractor, you're eligible for these self-employed retirement accounts which let you put away WAY more than regular IRAs. This won't help with last year's taxes, but could significantly reduce your tax bill going forward. With a Solo 401(k), you can contribute up to $22,500 as an "employee" for 2023 PLUS an additional 25% of your net self-employment earnings as the "employer" (up to combined limits). These contributions are tax-deductible and reduce your taxable income.
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Lauren Johnson
β’Is it worth setting this up if I only made like $36k from gig work? Seems complicated for a small amount.
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Yara Nassar
β’Actually, yes! Even at $36k, a Solo 401(k) could be worth it. You could potentially contribute around $9,000 (25% of net earnings after self-employment tax adjustments) which would save you roughly $1,000-2,000 in taxes depending on your bracket. The setup isn't that complicated - many brokerages like Fidelity, Schwab, or Vanguard offer them with minimal paperwork. You have until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) to set it up and make contributions for the previous tax year. So you could still potentially reduce your 2023 tax bill if you act quickly! Just make sure you have enough cash flow since retirement contributions tie up your money until age 59.5 (with some exceptions).
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