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Did you have any credits like EIC or CTC? Those usually take longer to process and get more scrutiny.
yeah claimed EIC this year...guess that explains the hold up š®āšØ
EIC claims definitely get extra scrutiny and can add weeks to processing time. The good news is once you see those 571/290/971 codes, it usually means they've finished their review and you're in the final stages. Based on your transcript showing movement on 12-10-2024 with the 570 code still there, I'd expect to see an 846 code (refund issued) within the next 1-2 weeks. The -$42 balance is actually your refund amount after interest calculations. Keep checking your transcript updates on Thursdays/Fridays - that's when they typically post new cycles.
This is super helpful! I'm in a similar situation with EIC and was wondering why it's taking so long. Quick question - when you say "refund amount after interest calculations," does that mean the -$42 is what I'll actually get, or is there more to it? I'm still trying to understand how to read these transcripts properly š
Just wondering what software your preparer used? I'm asking because some tax software won't even let you e-file as a paid preparer without entering a valid PTIN. So either they're paper filing (which is unusual these days), using consumer software and pretending they're not a paid preparer, or somehow bypassing verification systems.
This is actually a really important question that @Freya Andersen raised. When I had my returns done, they were definitely e-filed - I got the electronic confirmation and everything. But now that you mention it, I never really paid attention to what software they were using or how the process worked on their end. If the software requires a valid PTIN to e-file as a paid preparer, then either they somehow got around that requirement or they're filing under someone else's PTIN. Both scenarios are pretty concerning and suggest this might be more serious than just forgetting to renew their registration. I'm definitely going to ask them directly about this when I confront them about the PTIN issue. The fact that they've been able to e-file for years without a valid PTIN suggests there might be some deliberate deception going on rather than just an oversight.
I went through this exact same frustration last year! Your former employer is definitely confusing the processes. The W-4R is for taxable distributions, but a direct rollover isn't a distribution to you - it's a transfer between qualified plans. Here's what finally worked for me: I called my NEW 401k provider first and asked them to initiate the rollover from their end. They sent me their "incoming rollover" forms and handled all the communication with my old plan administrator. This completely bypassed my former employer's HR department, who honestly didn't seem to understand the difference between direct and indirect rollovers. The key phrase you want to use is "trustee-to-trustee transfer" - this is the technical term that plan administrators understand. Also, make sure you have your new plan's acceptance letter or documentation showing they'll accept the rollover. If you're still getting pushback, you can reference IRS Code Section 401(a)(31), which specifically gives participants the right to elect direct rollovers. Good luck!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious - when your new 401k provider initiated the rollover, did they need any specific forms or documents from you beyond their standard incoming rollover paperwork? I'm wondering if there are any gotchas I should watch out for when I contact my new provider about doing this. Also, thanks for mentioning the IRS Code Section 401(a)(31) - having that specific reference could be really useful if I need to push back on my former employer's demands for the W-4R form.
I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! My former employer's HR department keeps insisting I need to fill out tax withholding forms even though I've explicitly requested a direct rollover multiple times. What's been particularly frustrating is that they seem to think ANY money leaving the plan requires tax withholding, which shows they don't understand that direct rollovers are specifically exempt from the 20% mandatory withholding rule. I'm definitely going to try the approach of having my new 401k provider initiate the transfer - that sounds like it could bypass a lot of this confusion. Has anyone had success getting their former employer to admit they were wrong about requiring the W-4R, or do they usually just quietly process it correctly once you go through the right channels? Thanks for all the helpful suggestions in this thread - it's reassuring to know this is a common problem and not just my former company being difficult!
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! It's so frustrating when HR departments don't understand the difference between distributions and direct rollovers. In my experience, they usually don't admit they were wrong - they just quietly start processing things correctly once you involve the actual plan administrators or use the right terminology. What worked for me was bypassing HR entirely and going straight to the third-party company that actually manages the 401k plan (usually listed on your account statements). They deal with rollovers all the time and immediately understood what I was asking for when I said "trustee-to-trustee transfer." You might also want to check your plan's Summary Plan Description - it should have specific language about your rollover rights that you can reference if needed. Good luck getting this sorted out!
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your SMLLC actually qualifies for S-Corp status! You need to meet the requirements like having only allowable shareholders (individuals, certain trusts, estates), no more than 100 shareholders, only one class of stock, and not be an ineligible corporation. I've seen people go through this whole process only to find out their LLC wasn't eligible in the first place.
Thanks for bringing this up - I should have mentioned that part. It's a single-member LLC with just me as the only owner, and I'm a US citizen. No fancy stock structure or anything like that. So I think I'm good on the eligibility requirements. It's just the timing with the already-filed tax returns that was worrying me.
I'm going through a very similar situation right now! Filed as SMLLC for two years, just submitted my Form 2553 late election last month. What really helped me was getting clarity on the "reasonable cause" requirement - I focused on explaining how my business income had grown substantially and I only recently learned about the self-employment tax savings potential of S-Corp status through a tax seminar. One tip I learned: the IRS is generally more lenient if you can show the election makes sense for your current business situation rather than just saying you missed the deadline. Also, I requested an effective date of January 1st of this year (not retroactive) specifically to avoid the headache of amending previous returns. My accountant said this approach has a higher approval rate since it doesn't create extra work for the IRS processing center. Still waiting to hear back, but feeling more confident after reading everyone's experiences here. Good luck with yours!
NeonNinja
Does anyone know if the rules are different for residential rental property vs commercial? I have both and it seems like there might be different thresholds or rules for each type.
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Anastasia Popov
ā¢The de minimis safe harbor rule applies to both, but the depreciation periods differ if you're adding to basis. Residential rental property is depreciated over 27.5 years while commercial is 39 years. Also, the rules for qualified improvement property might give you more options with commercial.
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Yara Nassar
Great discussion here! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - I have a duplex where I live in one unit and rent out the other. How does the personal vs business use percentage affect these decisions? If I do a $2,000 improvement that benefits both units equally, can I still use the de minimis safe harbor for the 50% business portion? Or does the mixed-use nature of the property complicate things? I've been going back and forth on whether to expense what I can immediately or add everything to basis for when I eventually move out and rent both units. Also wondering if anyone has experience with how this plays out when you convert a personal residence to rental property - do prior improvements suddenly become depreciable at that point?
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