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Has anyone considered Drake Tax's training program? I used it when transitioning from finance to tax, and it was super helpful for learning practical application. They have a certification program too that's way more affordable than most options.
Drake was a lifesaver for me too! Their practice lab let me work through complex scenarios before dealing with actual client returns. The software is simpler than some others but that makes the learning curve easier. Plus their phone support actually answers when you call with questions!
As someone who's been preparing taxes for over 8 years and now runs a small practice, I'd strongly recommend against H&R Block for your situation. You're absolutely right to be concerned about getting the experience you need there. Given your 14-year FA background and EA pursuit, you're actually in a great position to approach boutique tax firms or fee-only RIAs that already offer tax services. These firms often struggle to find preparers who understand investment taxation, retirement planning implications, and business structures - all areas where your background gives you a huge advantage. I'd suggest reaching out to firms in your area that serve high-net-worth clients or business owners. Offer to work the upcoming tax season part-time while you complete your EA. Many firms would jump at someone with your qualifications, even for $30-35/hour starting out. Also consider joining local tax professional groups or NATP chapters - great networking opportunities and many firms recruit through these channels. You'll learn more in one season at a quality firm than multiple seasons at a volume preparer like Block. The EA designation combined with your FA experience will make you incredibly valuable in the tax prep world. Don't undersell yourself by starting at the bottom of the food chain.
This is excellent advice! I'm curious about the networking aspect you mentioned. For someone just getting started in tax preparation, what's the best way to approach these local tax professional groups? Should I wait until I have my EA or can I join as someone who's actively studying for it? Also, when you mention $30-35/hour for someone with FA background, is that typically as an employee or more of a contractor arrangement during tax season?
Has anyone considered that the tax brackets might change before the end of 2025? Remember in 2020 when everything changed mid-year because of covid relief stuff? Maybe the IRS is hedging their bets with Publication 15-T in case Congress makes changes?
This is exactly the kind of systemic issue that makes tax compliance so frustrating for both employers and employees. I've been tracking this discrepancy across multiple clients this year, and it's definitely more pronounced than in previous years. What's particularly concerning is that this gap disproportionately affects middle-to-upper-middle income earners who don't typically need to make estimated tax payments. These are people who have always relied on payroll withholding to cover their full liability, and they're going to be blindsided next filing season. I think the IRS needs to be more transparent about these intentional buffers in their guidance. Publication 15-T should include a clear disclaimer explaining that the withholding tables may result in underpayment for certain income levels and circumstances. Right now, employers like us are left trying to explain to confused employees why their withholding doesn't seem adequate when we're following official guidance to the letter. Has anyone reached out to their payroll software vendor about this? I'm wondering if there are any patches or updates coming to help address this issue.
I completely agree about the transparency issue! As someone new to this community but dealing with the same frustration, I think the lack of clear guidance is creating unnecessary confusion for both HR professionals and employees. Have you considered filing feedback with the IRS about Publication 15-T? There's supposed to be a process for suggesting improvements to tax guidance documents. It might be worth organizing a collective response from payroll professionals who are seeing this pattern across multiple organizations. Also, regarding payroll software vendors - I'd be curious to know if they've received other reports about this discrepancy. Sometimes they have insights into IRS guidance that isn't publicly available yet, or they might be working on solutions we don't know about.
@Christian Burns @Noah Ali You both raise excellent points about transparency and collective action. I ve actually'started documenting this issue systematically across our client base to build a case for feedback to the IRS. What I m finding'is that the discrepancy seems most pronounced for taxpayers in the $75K-$150K income range who take the standard deduction. These are exactly the people who have historically been able to set it "and forget it with their" W-4s, and now they re facing'potential underpayment penalties through no fault of their own. I think Noah s suggestion'about organizing payroll professionals is spot-on. Has anyone here connected with AICPA or other professional organizations about this? They might have more leverage than individual practitioners in getting the IRS to clarify or adjust their guidance mid-year. For immediate solutions, I ve started'proactively recommending that affected employees use the IRS Withholding Estimator quarterly rather than just when they update their W-4. It s not'ideal, but it s better'than waiting until next April to discover the problem.
Omg i had this exact question last year! my daughter works in my pet grooming business and i wanted to help with her community college. my accountant told me to just put her on regular payroll and pay her fairly for the ACTUAL work she does. he said if i tried to deduct tuition directly id be asking for an audit. i now pay her $22/hour (what i pay my other grooming assistant) for about 15 hrs/week. she gets a regular paycheck with taxes taken out and everything. then what she does with her money is her business. yeah i still help her with tuition but thats just me being a mom lol.
Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact situation with my son last year. The bottom line is that the IRS treats family employment arrangements with extra scrutiny, so you really need to do everything by the book. Here's what I learned: Pay your daughter actual wages through regular payroll (W-2, tax withholdings, the whole nine yards) for legitimate work performed. Document everything - hours worked, job duties, market rate justification for her pay. The $45k for 1000 hours ($45/hour) might be high depending on what kind of work she's actually doing. Research what similar positions pay in your area. Once she's getting regular paychecks, what she does with that money is her business. You can still help with tuition separately as a parent, but that's a personal expense, not a business deduction. Don't try to get creative by paying tuition directly as a "business expense" - that's a red flag for the IRS and could trigger an audit. Keep your business expenses and personal family support completely separate. It's cleaner, safer, and will save you headaches down the road.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation with my daughter who helps with my consulting business. One question though - when you say "research what similar positions pay in your area," where did you actually find reliable data for that? I'm having trouble finding good benchmarks for part-time admin/bookkeeping work to make sure I'm not over or underpaying her.
Has anyone dealt with the health insurance part of this? When my ex and I split claiming our kids, we ran into issues with the premium tax credit for health insurance. Only the person who claims the kid as a dependent can claim their health insurance costs for tax credits.
This is a great question that comes up a lot! Yes, your daughter and her ex can absolutely each claim one child on their separate tax returns. The key rule is that each child can only be claimed as a dependent by one parent per tax year - but there's no requirement that all children must be claimed by the same parent. Since they co-parent well and split time fairly evenly, they just need to agree on who claims which child and stick to that arrangement. I'd recommend they put this agreement in writing to avoid any confusion down the road. One important thing to consider though - they should look at the bigger tax picture before deciding. The parent who claims a child gets all the related tax benefits for that child (Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Credit if eligible, Head of Household filing status, etc.). Given their income difference ($42K vs $65K), your daughter might benefit more from certain credits that phase out at higher incomes. They might want to run the numbers both ways to see which arrangement gives them the best combined tax benefit.
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to navigating these tax situations myself. When you mention running the numbers both ways, is there an easy way to estimate which arrangement would be better? I have a similar situation with my ex where we're trying to figure out the fairest split for our two kids. Should we try using tax software to model different scenarios, or is there a simpler way to compare the benefits?
Paolo Conti
I've been exactly where you are right now - that mix of cautious optimism and fear of another letdown is so familiar! The code 290 with $0.00 is actually really promising news. It means your amended return has been officially accepted into their system and they're beginning to process the adjustments. That 'as of' date of 6/10/2024 is when their computer system will cycle through your account again, and based on what I've seen here in the community, that's often when people start seeing the next wave of activity on their transcripts. I know it's hard not to check obsessively (trust me, I've been there!), but the weekly check approach that others have mentioned really does help with the stress. You're past the biggest hurdle now - getting acknowledged by their system. The processing timeline for amended returns is frustratingly long, but you're definitely in motion. Try to be gentle with yourself during this waiting period, and remember that no news is often just... no news, not bad news. Sending good vibes your way for that 6/10 update!
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Natasha Volkova
ā¢This is such a thoughtful and reassuring response! As someone completely new to this whole process, I really appreciate how you acknowledged the emotional side of dealing with amended returns - that "cautious optimism and fear of another letdown" is exactly what I'm feeling right now. It's comforting to know that others have been through this exact same emotional rollercoaster and come out the other side successfully. The way you explained that the 6/10 date is when their system cycles through again makes it feel less mysterious and more like an actual process with predictable steps. I'm definitely going to try that weekly check approach and work on being more patient with myself during this waiting period. Thank you for the good vibes - I'll take all the positive energy I can get!
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Teresa Boyd
I completely understand your hesitation about getting hopeful - the whole amended return process can feel like an endless waiting game with so many unknowns! But that code 290 with $0.00 is actually a really good sign. It means the IRS has officially received and accepted your amended return into their processing system, which is honestly the biggest hurdle. That 'as of' date of 6/10/2024 is significant because it's when their system is scheduled to cycle through your account for the next round of updates. While I can't promise exactly what will happen, many people in similar situations have seen additional codes (including refund codes) appear within a couple weeks of their 'as of' date. I know the waiting is absolutely brutal, especially when you've been through disappointments before. My advice would be to check your transcript maybe once a week rather than daily - it helps preserve your mental energy while still keeping you informed. The fact that you're seeing this movement means you're definitely in their pipeline now. Try to hang in there, and remember that this code 290 represents real progress, even if it doesn't feel like much yet. Keeping my fingers crossed that 6/10 brings you some good news!
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