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Has anyone used the TurboTax live expert feature for this kind of situation? I'm having a similar issue and wondering if it's worth the extra cost or if they just tell you generic advice you could find online.
I tried it last year for a similar rental property question. The expert I got was okay but seemed rushed and didn't really address my specific situation. Gave me some general guidelines but nothing customized to my circumstances. For basic questions it's fine but for something complicated like this I'd go with a real CPA or even the taxr.ai thing others mentioned.
I went through something very similar when I converted my home to a rental property mid-year. The 15-day rule is indeed frustrating, but don't worry - your expenses aren't lost! Here's what I learned after consulting with my CPA: Those $6k in expenses you mentioned are considered "startup costs" for your rental business. Since you didn't rent for 15+ days in 2023, you're right to delete the rental from your 2023 return per the software's guidance. For 2024, when you're actively renting, you have a few options: 1. Add all expenses to your property's basis and depreciate over 27.5 years 2. Make a Section 195 election to deduct up to $5,000 in startup expenses immediately in your first year of business, with the remainder amortized over 15 years The second option could be huge for you since you have $6k in expenses. You'd deduct $5k immediately in 2024 and spread the remaining $1k over 15 years. Make sure to categorize your expenses correctly between repairs (potentially immediately deductible once rental activity begins) versus improvements (must be capitalized). Keep detailed records of everything with receipts and descriptions. The key is that your rental business officially starts in 2024, not 2023, so that's when these rules kick in. Don't let the software trick you into thinking you've lost those deductions forever!
This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping for! The Section 195 election sounds like it could save me a lot of money. Is this something I need to file separately or can I just make this election when I file my 2024 return? And do I need to notify the IRS in advance that I'm planning to make this election, or is it just a checkbox/form when I file? Also, since I'm new to rental properties, how do I prove to the IRS that my "rental business" officially started in 2024? Is it just based on when I received my first rental payment, or do I need some other documentation?
Saw this thread and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Last year I didn't file because "they already took taxes out of my checks so what's the point?" BIG MISTAKE. Got hit with failure-to-file penalties even though I didn't owe anything extra! Found out I was actually due a $1,320 refund but nearly lost it because there's a 3-year deadline to claim refunds. So yes, filing and paying are different, and yes, you need to file EVEN IF your employer withheld taxes already!!
What tax software do you recommend for first-timers? I'm in a similar situation.
I'd recommend starting with the IRS Free File options if your income qualifies (under about $73,000). TaxSlayer and TaxAct were easy to use for me as a beginner. If your situation is super simple (just a W-2 and standard deduction), even the free versions of TurboTax or H&R Block can work, just be careful about them trying to upsell you on paid features you might not need.
Don't feel embarrassed at all - this is actually a really common confusion! Think of it this way: filing is like submitting your homework to show what you earned and what was already paid, while paying is the actual money changing hands. Since you mentioned your employer takes taxes out of every paycheck, you've likely been "paying" taxes all year long through those deductions (called withholding). When you file your return, you're basically doing the math to see if those payments were enough to cover what you actually owe. Most people in your situation either get a refund (because too much was withheld) or owe a small amount. The key thing is that filing is required regardless - even if you don't owe anything extra, you still need to submit that paperwork to the IRS. And if you're owed a refund, filing is the only way to get it! You've got this - it's way less scary once you understand the difference.
This is such a helpful explanation! I'm also new to doing taxes on my own and was worried I was missing something obvious. The homework analogy really clicks for me - you show your work (filing) even if you already paid throughout the year. One quick question - is there a deadline for filing even if I don't owe anything? I keep seeing April 15th mentioned but wasn't sure if that only applies when you owe money.
Has anyone successfully done this without including a letter from their employer? My situation is exactly like the OP's - employer is completely unresponsive, won't even acknowledge my emails about the incorrect FICA withholding.
I got my FICA refund approved without an employer letter. Instead, I included copies of all my unanswered emails to HR and payroll as evidence that I tried to resolve it with my employer first. I sent about 5 emails over 2 months with no response, and included all of them with my claim. The IRS accepted this as sufficient proof that I attempted to resolve it directly.
I went through this exact same process last year and successfully got my $1,100 FICA refund! The key thing that helped me was being extremely thorough with documentation since my employer was also completely unresponsive. Here's what I included with my Forms 8316 and 843: - Copies of my I-20 showing F-1 status during the tax period - Copy of my EAD card for OPT authorization - All W-2 forms showing the incorrect FICA withholding - Screenshots of my I-94 entry/exit records - Every single email I sent to HR/payroll (I sent 7 over 3 months with zero responses) - A detailed timeline of my attempts to contact the employer For Form 843, I wrote a very specific explanation referencing IRS Publication 519 and the exact regulations that exempt F-1 students from FICA taxes. I also emphasized that this was employer error, not a student filing mistake. The whole process took about 8 months from mailing to receiving my check, but it was definitely worth it. Don't let your employer's unresponsiveness stop you from getting your money back - the IRS understands this is a common issue with international student taxation.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually in almost the exact same situation as the original poster - currently filing with just my SSN for survey income (~$7,000/year) and considering starting an online craft business. Reading through everyone's experiences, I'm now confident that I can definitely file with both an EIN (for the craft business) and SSN (for surveys). The key insight for me was understanding that both would still end up on my personal tax return as separate Schedule Cs, but the EIN just helps identify and organize the business activity. What really convinced me was hearing from people like Mary and Zara about how much easier bookkeeping becomes with separate bank accounts. I've been dreading tax time because everything gets mixed together in my personal account. Having a clear separation between my different income streams sounds like it would make tracking legitimate business expenses much simpler too. I think I'll start by opening a separate business checking account for the craft sales (even before getting the EIN) and then apply for the EIN once I'm ready to launch. That way I can build good financial habits from the start while keeping my tax situation manageable. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - this practical advice is exactly what I needed to move forward with confidence!
@Amara Okafor I m'so glad this thread helped you too! Your plan to start with the separate business checking account before getting the EIN is really smart. That s'actually what I wish I had done - I got overwhelmed trying to do everything at once when I started my side business. One small tip from my experience: when you do open that business account, ask the bank if they have any business checking accounts with low or no monthly fees for small businesses. Some banks waive fees if you maintain a minimum balance or have a certain number of transactions per month. Since you re'just starting out, you probably don t'want to get hit with unnecessary banking fees while you re'building up your craft business. Also, even though you re'starting simple with surveys + crafts, definitely keep all your receipts from day one - even small expenses like craft supplies, shipping materials, or fees from selling platforms add up quickly and can reduce your tax burden. Having that separate account will make it so much easier to track everything!
This has been such an educational thread! As someone who's been putting off formalizing my side business structure, reading everyone's experiences has really clarified the EIN vs SSN question for me. What I found most helpful was learning that getting an EIN doesn't complicate your tax filing as much as I thought it would - everything still flows through to your personal return, just on separate Schedule Cs. The biggest benefit seems to be the organizational aspect and being able to maintain clean separation between different income streams. I'm particularly interested in the point about business expense tracking. Right now I'm probably missing out on legitimate deductions because I have trouble sorting which expenses relate to which activities when everything goes through my personal accounts. The separate banking approach that several people mentioned seems like it would solve that issue immediately. One question for those who've been through this process: how long did it typically take from applying for your EIN to actually receiving it? I'm planning to launch my online business in the next couple months and want to make sure I allow enough time for all the setup steps. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance you can't find in generic tax advice articles!
@Hattie Carson Great question about EIN timing! From my experience, if you apply online through the IRS website, you can actually get your EIN immediately - it shows up on screen right after you complete the application. I got mine in about 10 minutes when I applied for my consulting business last year. The only time it takes longer is if you apply by mail or fax which (can take several weeks ,)or if there are complications with your application. Since you re'planning a straightforward single-member LLC or sole proprietorship for your online business, the online application should be quick and easy. Just make sure you have all your information ready before you start - things like your business name, address, and a clear description of what your business does. The application is pretty straightforward, but you can t'go back and change certain details easily once it s'submitted. One tip: apply for the EIN right before you re'ready to open your business bank account, since most banks will ask for the EIN documentation when setting up business accounts. That way you can knock out both steps in the same week!
Abigail bergen
Same issue here! My transcript is showing offsets from early 2024 but I know there should be more recent ones. The delay is so frustrating when you're trying to figure out your refund situation. Has anyone found that calling the IRS directly helps, or do they just tell you to wait for the transcript to update?
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Malik Jackson
ā¢From my experience calling the IRS directly about offsets is hit or miss - sometimes they have updated info but a lot of times they just tell you the same thing you can see on your transcript. The TOP hotline that Paolo mentioned earlier (800-304-3107) is usually way more helpful for offset-specific questions since that's literally what they handle. They can tell you exactly what's been processed even if it hasn't shown up on your transcript yet!
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Olivia Van-Cleve
I had the exact same problem last month! My transcript was showing old offsets but missing recent ones. What I found out is that there's actually a separate system for tracking offsets that updates faster than the regular IRS transcripts. You can also try calling the Bureau of the Fiscal Service at 888-826-3127 - they handle Treasury offsets and sometimes have more current info than what shows on your IRS account. Also worth checking if you have any state tax debts or child support issues since those can create offsets that take longer to show up on the federal transcript.
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Amelia Cartwright
ā¢This is super helpful! I didn't know about the Bureau of the Fiscal Service number. Just to clarify - when you called 888-826-3127, were they able to give you real-time offset information that wasn't showing up on your IRS transcript yet? I'm dealing with the same lag issue and trying to figure out which number will actually give me the most current status.
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