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Tax implications of renting my house to mother-in-law below market value - help needed!

My wife and I purchased a new home in 2024 but kept our previous house which we're now renting to my mother-in-law for basically just the mortgage amount. The mortgage payment is $825 per month, and we're charging her $850. She moved in back in June, but we didn't start collecting rent until July. I've researched this situation and found that comparable rentals in our neighborhood go for $1200-1400 monthly, so we're definitely renting below market value. I've been reading up on the tax rules around this, and I think I understand most of it, but there are some aspects where I don't like what I'm finding, so I'm hoping someone can give me a second opinion. I'm working through TurboTax and have completed everything except this rental property section. From what I understand, since we're renting substantially below market value to a family member, the IRS may consider this a personal use property rather than a rental property? Does this affect what expenses I can deduct? Do I still need to report the rental income? Any advice would be really appreciated!

Does anyone know if you need to keep any special documentation when renting to family below market value? My tax person said I should have some kind of formal rental agreement even though its my dad renting from me.

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Yes! Having a written lease agreement is SUPER important, especially with family rentals. The IRS looks more closely at family arrangements. Your lease should spell out the rent amount, security deposit, who pays utilities, maintenance responsibilities, etc. - all the normal rental stuff. Keep good records of all rent payments too (bank deposits, etc). Without this documentation, the IRS might argue it's not really a rental at all and disallow ALL your deductions.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation - renting to my elderly parents below market rate. One thing I learned from my CPA is that you should also document WHY you're charging below market rent. In my case, I kept records showing that my parents help with property maintenance and yard work, which justifies some of the rent reduction. Also, make sure you're treating this like a real business relationship even though it's family. I set up automatic bank transfers for the rent payments so there's a clear paper trail, and I give my parents a receipt each month. The IRS wants to see that this is a legitimate rental arrangement, not just you letting family live there cheaply. One more tip - if your mother-in-law ever stays elsewhere for extended periods, keep track of those days. If the property is vacant for more than 14 days per year due to personal use (like if she visits other family), it affects your tax calculations even more.

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IRS Transcript Offset Line Not Showing Recent 2024 Treasury Offsets - When Does it Update?

My transcript shows I'm getting an offset but the offset line only shows stuff from February 2024. Nothing showing up for this years offsets yet. Does anyone know when they update that line? Starting to get worried because I know theres supposed to be more offsets but I can't see them.

Protip: if u have student loans call the dept of education directly. they usually have more updated info than the irs transcripts

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This! Called them yesterday and they had everything listed

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Same issue here! My transcript is showing offsets from early 2024 but I know there should be more recent ones. The delay is so frustrating when you're trying to figure out your refund situation. Has anyone found that calling the IRS directly helps, or do they just tell you to wait for the transcript to update?

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Can I claim expense deductions for rental property rented less than 15 days?

Hey everyone, So here's my situation. I converted my primary home into a rental property on November 22, 2023. I spent about $6,000 fixing it up to get it ready for tenants (new paint, minor repairs, deep cleaning, etc). I'm using freetaxusa to file and I keep getting this annoying alert: "Less than 15 Days Rented Since the rental property was rented to others for fewer than 15 days, the IRS doesn't require you to report any rental income or allow you to deduct any rental expenses. Go back to the Your Rental Income form screen and delete this rental record." The thing is, I literally just started renting it out in late December, so obviously I didn't hit the 15-day threshold for 2023. But I still had all these expenses! If I delete the rental property form like it's telling me to do, will I somehow be able to deduct these expenses in the future? Or am I just totally out of luck on deducting these startup costs? Is there some other way to get these expenses deducted either now or in my 2024 taxes? Really confused about this and don't want to lose out on $6k worth of deductions!

Has anyone used the TurboTax live expert feature for this kind of situation? I'm having a similar issue and wondering if it's worth the extra cost or if they just tell you generic advice you could find online.

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I tried it last year for a similar rental property question. The expert I got was okay but seemed rushed and didn't really address my specific situation. Gave me some general guidelines but nothing customized to my circumstances. For basic questions it's fine but for something complicated like this I'd go with a real CPA or even the taxr.ai thing others mentioned.

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I went through something very similar when I converted my home to a rental property mid-year. The 15-day rule is indeed frustrating, but don't worry - your expenses aren't lost! Here's what I learned after consulting with my CPA: Those $6k in expenses you mentioned are considered "startup costs" for your rental business. Since you didn't rent for 15+ days in 2023, you're right to delete the rental from your 2023 return per the software's guidance. For 2024, when you're actively renting, you have a few options: 1. Add all expenses to your property's basis and depreciate over 27.5 years 2. Make a Section 195 election to deduct up to $5,000 in startup expenses immediately in your first year of business, with the remainder amortized over 15 years The second option could be huge for you since you have $6k in expenses. You'd deduct $5k immediately in 2024 and spread the remaining $1k over 15 years. Make sure to categorize your expenses correctly between repairs (potentially immediately deductible once rental activity begins) versus improvements (must be capitalized). Keep detailed records of everything with receipts and descriptions. The key is that your rental business officially starts in 2024, not 2023, so that's when these rules kick in. Don't let the software trick you into thinking you've lost those deductions forever!

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Is Filing Your Tax Return the Same as Actually Paying Taxes You Owe?

Hey tax people - I'm super confused about something that probably sounds really dumb. Is filing your taxes the same thing as paying your taxes? I always thought they were the same thing but my roommate said I'm wrong. I got a new job last year and they take taxes out of every paycheck. So when tax time comes around, do I still need to pay something? Or is filing just telling the IRS what I earned and what was already taken out? I'm 24 and embarrassed to admit this is my first time doing my own taxes without my parents' help (they always handled this stuff before). I use direct deposit for my paychecks if that matters. I'm worried I'm going to mess up and owe a bunch of penalties or something. Can someone please explain like I'm 5 what the difference is between filing and paying? Thanks!

Saw this thread and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Last year I didn't file because "they already took taxes out of my checks so what's the point?" BIG MISTAKE. Got hit with failure-to-file penalties even though I didn't owe anything extra! Found out I was actually due a $1,320 refund but nearly lost it because there's a 3-year deadline to claim refunds. So yes, filing and paying are different, and yes, you need to file EVEN IF your employer withheld taxes already!!

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What tax software do you recommend for first-timers? I'm in a similar situation.

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I'd recommend starting with the IRS Free File options if your income qualifies (under about $73,000). TaxSlayer and TaxAct were easy to use for me as a beginner. If your situation is super simple (just a W-2 and standard deduction), even the free versions of TurboTax or H&R Block can work, just be careful about them trying to upsell you on paid features you might not need.

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Don't feel embarrassed at all - this is actually a really common confusion! Think of it this way: filing is like submitting your homework to show what you earned and what was already paid, while paying is the actual money changing hands. Since you mentioned your employer takes taxes out of every paycheck, you've likely been "paying" taxes all year long through those deductions (called withholding). When you file your return, you're basically doing the math to see if those payments were enough to cover what you actually owe. Most people in your situation either get a refund (because too much was withheld) or owe a small amount. The key thing is that filing is required regardless - even if you don't owe anything extra, you still need to submit that paperwork to the IRS. And if you're owed a refund, filing is the only way to get it! You've got this - it's way less scary once you understand the difference.

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Need help with Form 8316 and 843 for CPT/OPT/F-1 student FICA refund process

I'm in a really frustrating situation and could use some advice. I was on F-1 status with OPT during 2020 and my employer incorrectly withheld FICA taxes even though I was a non-resident for tax purposes. I've been trying to contact my employer since like May to fix this, but they're completely ghosting my emails and calls. From what I've researched, it looks like I need to file Forms 8316 and 843 directly with the IRS to get my money back since my employer is unresponsive. The problem is I'm totally confused about how to complete these forms correctly. The FICA withholding amounts to about $1,300 which is a significant amount for me as a student. I contacted a few CPAs for help, but they're quoting me around $250-300 for this service, which seems excessive considering the amount I'm trying to recover. I found some instructions online about the process, but when I look at Form 843 specifically, I'm completely lost on several sections. Has anyone gone through this process before? Any guidance on completing these forms correctly would be so appreciated. I'm especially confused about which boxes to check and what supporting documentation I need to include.

Has anyone successfully done this without including a letter from their employer? My situation is exactly like the OP's - employer is completely unresponsive, won't even acknowledge my emails about the incorrect FICA withholding.

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I got my FICA refund approved without an employer letter. Instead, I included copies of all my unanswered emails to HR and payroll as evidence that I tried to resolve it with my employer first. I sent about 5 emails over 2 months with no response, and included all of them with my claim. The IRS accepted this as sufficient proof that I attempted to resolve it directly.

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I went through this exact same process last year and successfully got my $1,100 FICA refund! The key thing that helped me was being extremely thorough with documentation since my employer was also completely unresponsive. Here's what I included with my Forms 8316 and 843: - Copies of my I-20 showing F-1 status during the tax period - Copy of my EAD card for OPT authorization - All W-2 forms showing the incorrect FICA withholding - Screenshots of my I-94 entry/exit records - Every single email I sent to HR/payroll (I sent 7 over 3 months with zero responses) - A detailed timeline of my attempts to contact the employer For Form 843, I wrote a very specific explanation referencing IRS Publication 519 and the exact regulations that exempt F-1 students from FICA taxes. I also emphasized that this was employer error, not a student filing mistake. The whole process took about 8 months from mailing to receiving my check, but it was definitely worth it. Don't let your employer's unresponsiveness stop you from getting your money back - the IRS understands this is a common issue with international student taxation.

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