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Don't overthink this! Just use the IRS formula: your contribution limit is lesser of $22,500 or your net earnings. And you ALWAYS wanna deduct business expenses. I made the mistake of not tracking my expenses properly when I started my side hustle and probably overpaid hundreds in taxes. Oh and btw the plan needs to be established by Dec 31st of the tax year, but you can actually make the contributions up until your tax filing deadline (including extensions). Super helpful if you're tight on cash at year end!
But what about the employer contribution part? Doesn't that add more to the total you can put in? I thought solo 401ks let you contribute as both employer and employee.
You're absolutely right about the employer contribution! Solo 401k plans do allow both employee and employer contributions. The $22,500 limit Oliver mentioned is just for the employee elective deferral portion. As the employer, you can also contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (after deducting half of your self-employment tax). For someone with $8,000 in net earnings like Melina, this would add roughly another $1,600 in potential contributions using the simplified 20% calculation. So the total possible contribution would be closer to $8,000 (employee) + $1,600 (employer) = $9,600, but since you can't contribute more than 100% of your net earnings, you'd be capped at the $8,000 total in this case. Still good to understand both parts though!
Just wanted to add my two cents as someone who went through this exact same situation last year! I had about $10k in freelance income with $1,500 in expenses, so very similar to your numbers. I definitely recommend deducting all your legitimate business expenses first - that drawing tablet and software are absolutely deductible! Like others mentioned, you'll save on both income tax AND self-employment tax by taking those deductions. For your $8,000 net income after expenses, you can contribute up to 100% of that to your Solo 401k. The employee contribution portion can be up to $8,000 (since that's less than the $22,500 annual limit), and technically there's also a small employer contribution you could make, but with such a low net income, you're practically limited to the $8,000 total anyway. One tip: if you think your freelance income might grow significantly next year, consider setting up quarterly estimated tax payments now. I wish I had done that sooner - it makes the tax burden much more manageable when you're not hit with a big bill at year-end!
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to freelancing and just starting to think about retirement savings. Quick question - when you mention quarterly estimated tax payments, do you include the Solo 401k contributions when calculating those? Or do you calculate quarterly payments based on your full net income and then adjust when you actually make the 401k contribution at tax time? I'm trying to figure out the timing of everything since I'm just getting started with my side business and want to make sure I don't mess up the cash flow planning.
One thing no one has mentioned yet - if you do claim your daughter as a dependent, you might qualify for the American Opportunity Credit (if she's in her first 4 years of post-secondary education) or the Lifetime Learning Credit (available for graduate school). This could save you up to $2,000-$2,500 on your taxes depending on which credit you qualify for and your income level. Since you paid those administrative fees, those would count as qualified education expenses. Keep all your receipts!
The American Opportunity Credit is only for undergrad though, right? OP said their kid is in grad school.
Exactly right - the American Opportunity Credit is only for the first 4 years of undergraduate education. Since OP's daughter is in graduate school, she would only qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit, which is up to $2,000 per year and can be used for graduate school expenses. Still worth looking into though, especially since OP paid those administrative fees!
Based on what you've described, you should definitely claim your daughter as your dependent for 2024. Since she's 23, a full-time graduate student, has zero income, and you're providing all her support, she clearly meets all the IRS tests for qualifying child status. One important thing to keep in mind - make sure you have good records of all the expenses you paid for her this year. The $4,000 in administrative fees plus her living expenses should easily put you over the "more than half support" threshold, but it's good to have documentation just in case. Also, don't worry about what happened in previous tax years. Each year is completely independent when it comes to dependent status. The fact that she filed on her own last year when she was working has no bearing on this year's situation. Since she has no income this year, she won't need to file a return at all. You'll just claim her as your dependent and potentially qualify for education credits on those administrative fees you paid. It sounds like a straightforward situation once you understand the rules!
This is really helpful! I'm curious though - when you say "good records" of expenses, what exactly counts as documentation? Like do I need actual receipts for groceries and rent I paid for her, or is it okay to estimate those monthly expenses? I kept receipts for the big stuff like the $4,000 in fees, but I didn't think to save grocery receipts or anything like that.
The audit risk stuff is important but don't overlook making sure you handle the business closure properly! When I closed my little consulting business last year, I had to: 1. File final employment tax returns (if you had employees) 2. Issue final W2s/1099s 3. Cancel EIN 4. Close business tax accounts with state 5. Report sale/disposal of business assets 6. Maintain records for at least 7 years Did TurboTax walk you through all these steps?
I completely understand your anxiety about this situation! I went through something very similar with my small photography business that had losses for 3 years before I closed it. Here's what helped put my mind at ease: the IRS audit statistics show that Schedule C businesses with gross receipts under $100k have an audit rate of less than 1%. With your highest year being $47k, you're well below that threshold. The key thing about the hobby loss rule is that it's not just about the 3-out-of-5-year test - the IRS looks at nine factors including whether you operated in a businesslike manner, kept good records, and made changes to improve profitability. Since you mentioned you were legitimately trying to run a business and made the rational decision to close when it wasn't working, that actually supports your case. Keep all your documentation organized (receipts, bank statements, inventory records, any business correspondence) just in case, but honestly, your situation sounds very low-risk. The IRS is generally more concerned with larger operations or obvious red flags like claiming massive losses on minimal income.
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I've been losing sleep over this whole situation. Did you ever get any follow-up from the IRS after closing your photography business, or did everything just go smoothly? Also, when you say "keep documentation organized," how long should I realistically expect to hold onto everything? I know you mentioned 7 years in general, but is that really necessary for a small business that's already closed?
This is exactly the kind of systematic consumer protection violation that drives me crazy! I work in state government (not tax-related, but I see how these issues get handled), and what you're describing is unfortunately very common. Retailers deliberately create policies that violate state laws because they know most consumers won't fight back over what seems like a "small" amount. The suggestions about contacting Pennsylvania's Department of Revenue are spot-on. State revenue departments take sales tax compliance very seriously because retailers are essentially acting as collection agents for the state. When a retailer keeps tax money on a returned item, they're not just cheating the consumer - they're potentially creating reporting discrepancies with the state. One thing I'd add: if you do contact the PA Department of Revenue, ask them specifically about filing a formal complaint against the retailer's practices. Many states have enforcement mechanisms that can result in audits or penalties for businesses that systematically violate sales tax regulations. This could help not just you, but other customers who've been affected by the same illegal policy. Also document everything - save your original receipt, return confirmation, correspondence with the retailer, and their refund policy statement. If this escalates, having a complete paper trail will be crucial. Good luck, and thanks for fighting back against this practice!
Aaliyah, your point about this being a systematic violation is so important! As someone new to this issue, I'm shocked to learn how widespread this practice apparently is. The idea that retailers are essentially stealing tax money that belongs to the state really puts this in perspective - it's not just about individual consumers losing a few dollars here and there. Your advice about documenting everything is really valuable. I've already saved screenshots of their refund policy and my correspondence with customer service, but I hadn't thought about how important that paper trail could be if this escalates to a formal complaint. The enforcement angle is particularly interesting - if state revenue departments can actually audit or penalize businesses for these violations, that seems like it would be much more effective at changing retailer behavior than individual consumers fighting one case at a time. Do you know if states typically publish information about enforcement actions they take against retailers for sales tax violations? It would be fascinating to see if this is as common as it seems from reading this thread. Thanks for sharing your perspective from the government side - it's really helpful to understand how these agencies view and handle these types of violations!
This entire thread has been incredibly enlightening! I had no idea that sales tax refund violations were so widespread or that there were so many different approaches to addressing them. What strikes me most is how these retailers are essentially banking on consumer ignorance - they create policies that sound official but directly violate state laws. For anyone following along who might be dealing with similar issues, I think the key takeaway is that you have multiple escalation paths available. Start with direct contact citing specific state statutes, then move to state revenue department hotlines, and finally consider Attorney General complaints or formal enforcement actions if needed. The fact that this appears to be systematic across many retailers suggests that state agencies would be very interested in investigating these practices. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone tried reaching out to local consumer advocacy groups or news stations about this? It seems like the kind of widespread violation that would make for good investigative reporting, especially since it affects so many everyday consumers who might not even realize they're being cheated. Public exposure often motivates companies to change their practices faster than individual complaints alone. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and strategies. This is exactly the kind of community knowledge-sharing that helps protect all of us from predatory business practices!
Dmitry Petrov
This is exactly the kind of complex inheritance situation where getting professional help is worth every penny. Based on what you've described, Yuki is correct - the cost basis should step up to the fair market value at your aunt's death in 2018, not your uncle's death in 1992. However, determining that 2018 value for a non-publicly traded company is going to be the challenging part. Since the company was acquired in 2023, you might be able to work backwards from the acquisition price, but you'll need to account for any changes in the company's value between 2018 and 2023. I'd strongly recommend consulting with both a tax professional and potentially a business valuation expert. The amount of tax you could save by getting the basis calculation right will likely far exceed the cost of professional help. Plus, having proper documentation will protect you if the IRS ever questions your return. Don't let this sit too long - there may be deadlines for claiming certain elections or filing estate-related forms that could affect your tax situation.
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Eve Freeman
ā¢This is really helpful advice about not letting it sit too long. Are there specific deadlines we should be worried about? The acquisition happened in 2023 but we only found out about the shares in January 2025. Could we have missed any important filing deadlines that would affect our tax situation?
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Jade Lopez
Great question about deadlines! Generally, there's no specific deadline you've missed just by discovering the shares late. The key dates that matter are: 1) **Estate tax return deadlines** - These would have been due 9 months after your aunt's death in 2018 (with possible extensions). If her estate was below the federal exemption threshold (~$11.18M in 2018), no federal estate return was required anyway. 2) **Income tax reporting** - You'll report the capital gains when you actually sell/convert the shares, which sounds like it's happening now in 2025. This goes on your 2025 tax return due in April 2026. 3) **Statute of limitations** - The IRS generally has 3 years from when you file to audit, but if you substantially understate income (>25%), they have 6 years. Proper documentation of your stepped-up basis is crucial here. Since you're just now discovering and liquidating the shares, you're actually in good timing. The main thing is to get that 2018 valuation established properly before you complete the sale/conversion process. One potential concern: if your aunt's total estate (including these previously unknown shares) exceeded the federal or state exemption thresholds, there might have been estate tax obligations that were missed. You may want to consult an estate attorney about this possibility.
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