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Has anyone here successfully claimed the R&D credit for software that ultimately didn't work out? We spent about $120k developing a specialized analytics tool but ultimately abandoned it because we couldn't solve some key technical problems. Can we still claim the R&D credit even though the project failed?
Actually, failed projects often make the BEST R&D credit claims! The fact that you couldn't solve the technical problems demonstrates real "technical uncertainty" and "process of experimentation" - two key requirements for the credit. Just document what you were trying to achieve, the technical approaches you tried, and why they didn't work. The credit is about the research process, not whether the final product succeeded.
@Rajiv Kumar - Based on what you've described, your custom SaaS development sounds like it has strong potential for R&D credit qualification. The key factors working in your favor are: 1) creating new functionality not previously available, 2) solving technical challenges, and 3) having your developer document the process. However, I'd recommend being extra careful about a few things given your setup. Since you're using an outside developer, make sure your contract clearly establishes that you retain substantial rights to the software and bear the financial risk of the project. The IRS scrutinizes contractor arrangements closely for R&D credits. Also, with the Section 174 changes mentioned by Ryan Kim, you'll need to capitalize and amortize your $75k investment over 5 years starting in 2022, but you can still claim the R&D credit in the year the expenses were incurred. This actually makes the credit more valuable since you're getting an immediate credit against expenses that are now spread over multiple years. One practical tip: if you do move forward with claiming the credit, consider getting professional help with the documentation. The IRS four-part test requires very specific language and evidence, and it's easy to miss subtle requirements that could trigger an audit or disqualification.
@Zainab Ahmed Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown! I m'actually in a similar situation with my small consulting business. Quick question about the contractor arrangements - what specific language should be in the contract to establish substantial "rights ?"I ve'been working with a freelance developer and want to make sure our agreement meets IRS requirements before I claim any R&D credits. Also, is there a threshold for how much control I need to maintain over the development process itself, or is it mainly about IP ownership?
Just wanted to add a few things from my experience claiming vision expenses in Ontario: 1. Don't forget about contact lenses if you use them - they're also eligible medical expenses, including contact lens solutions if prescribed by your optometrist. 2. If you need to travel to see a specialist (like for complex prescriptions or eye conditions), you can claim travel expenses too - 61 cents per kilometer for 2024 if you drove. 3. Consider timing your purchases strategically. Since you can claim medical expenses for any 12-month period ending in the tax year, you might want to coordinate with other family members' medical expenses to maximize the benefit. 4. Keep digital copies of all receipts - I learned this the hard way when my original receipt faded and became unreadable years later during a CRA review. The threshold can be tricky to hit on your own, but if you're married/common-law, you can combine medical expenses with your spouse to reach that $2,635 or 3% threshold more easily. Good luck with your new glasses!
This is really helpful info! I didn't know about the contact lens solution being claimable if prescribed - that's something I'll definitely ask my optometrist about. Quick question about the travel expenses - does the 61 cents per kilometer apply even if you're just going to a regular optometrist appointment in your city, or only for specialist visits? And do you need any special documentation to prove the travel was medically necessary?
Great question! The travel expense rules are a bit more restrictive than you might think. You can only claim travel expenses if you had to travel at least 40 kilometers (one way) from your home to get medical services that weren't available locally. So if you're just going to your regular optometrist down the street, that wouldn't qualify. However, if you needed to see a specialist or get specific services that required traveling to another city or a distant part of your city (40+ km away), then yes, you can claim the 61 cents per kilometer. You don't need special documentation beyond keeping records of the distance traveled and the medical reason for the visit - your appointment records and receipts from the specialist would typically be sufficient proof. The key is that the medical service had to be substantially equivalent to what's available locally. So if there's an optometrist 5 minutes from your house but you chose to drive an hour to see a different one for convenience, that wouldn't qualify. But if you needed specialized contact lens fitting or treatment for a specific eye condition only available from a specialist further away, that would be eligible.
Great thread everyone! As someone who just went through this process, I wanted to add a few practical tips: Make sure to ask your optometrist to note on your prescription if you have any specific medical conditions affecting your vision (like astigmatism, presbyopia, etc.) - this can help justify the medical necessity if questioned. Also, if you're getting progressive lenses or bifocals, these are typically fully claimable since they're addressing a medical vision condition. Same goes for specialized coatings if they're prescribed for medical reasons (like anti-reflective coating for people with light sensitivity). One thing I learned is that if you're self-employed, you might be able to claim a portion of your glasses as a business expense instead of (or in addition to) medical expenses, especially if you do a lot of computer work. Worth checking with an accountant if that applies to your situation. And definitely shop around for prices - the medical expense credit is based on what you actually paid, so finding a good deal means you still get the same percentage back but spend less upfront!
Thanks for mentioning the self-employed angle! I'm a freelance graphic designer and spend 12+ hours a day looking at screens. My optometrist specifically prescribed blue light filtering lenses for my computer work. Would this fall under business expenses or medical expenses? I'm wondering if there's a way to optimize which category gives me the better tax benefit. Also, did you need any special documentation from your optometrist to justify the business expense route?
I'm wondering if something fishy is happening with your therapist's taxes. My wife is a private practice therapist, and she's REQUIRED to provide documentation of payments to clients. For cash payments, she gives a receipt at each session and provides year-end statements in January. The fact your therapist is charging extra for this basic business function suggests either extremely poor business practices or possibly tax evasion. Neither is good. If you continue with her, I'd strongly suggest switching to checks or electronic payments and getting receipts for EVERY payment going forward.
Thank you for sharing this perspective from someone who would know! I'm starting to think her reluctance might be about more than just being disorganized. Would your wife consider it unusual or inappropriate to charge clients for providing payment records? I'm wondering if this is standard practice I'm just not familiar with.
My wife says charging clients for payment records is absolutely NOT standard practice and would be considered highly unprofessional in her field. Providing payment documentation is a basic business responsibility, not an "extra service" that warrants additional fees. In fact, most healthcare providers are moving toward patient portals or automated systems that make accessing payment records easier than ever. Your therapist's response suggests either extreme disorganization or potential tax issues. Either way, if you continue services, I'd recommend immediately switching to a payment method that creates automatic records - checks, electronic transfers, or even credit card payments if possible. The fact she's expanding her practice makes proper financial documentation even more important.
As someone who's navigated similar documentation challenges with healthcare providers, I'd recommend taking a two-pronged approach. First, create your own detailed payment log immediately using your calendar, bank withdrawal records, and any text/email communications about appointments. This shows good faith effort to maintain records. Second, send your therapist a formal written request (email is fine) stating that you need payment documentation for legitimate tax purposes. Offer to pay reasonable administrative costs if needed, but emphasize this is standard business practice. If she continues to resist, consider that this may indicate larger issues with her business practices. For future payments, absolutely switch to checks or electronic transfers that create automatic paper trails. You shouldn't have to chase down basic payment records from any professional service provider. The IRS accepts various forms of documentation for medical expenses, but having a clear paper trail makes everything much smoother during tax preparation and potential audits.
Your CPA is being honest about their limitations. My previous accountant tried to help with my Form 5500 despite limited experience and completely messed it up. Cost me $5,200 in penalties that took months to get abated!!! Consider calling Schwab directly - since they're your plan provider, they might have resources or recommended partners who specialize in these filings. Many providers have relationships with TPAs who can handle this for reasonable fees.
Schwab told me they don't provide that service when I called last year. They gave me a list of third-party administrators but the cheapest was $375 for a basic filing. Is that normal pricing?
I'm dealing with the exact same situation! My CPA also declined to handle Form 5500 for my solo 401k, which left me scrambling. After reading through all these responses, I'm leaning toward trying one of the tech solutions mentioned here rather than paying $375+ for a TPA. The penalty risks are what really concern me - $250 per day adds up fast if you mess something up. Has anyone here actually dealt with IRS penalties for Form 5500 mistakes, and how difficult was the abatement process? I want to understand the real-world consequences before deciding between DIY with assistance tools versus hiring a specialist. Also curious if anyone has compared multiple TPAs for pricing - $375 seems steep for what should be a relatively straightforward filing for a solo plan.
Demi Hall
Has anyone successfully appealed a Section 179 recapture with the IRS? I accidentally dropped to 47% business use on my work truck last year (got a company car mid-year but kept the truck), and now facing a big tax hit. My accountant says I should just pay it, but wondering if anyone's had luck with appealing these situations?
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Mateusius Townsend
β’I had partial success appealing a similar situation. The key was documentation - I had tracking records showing that while my percentage dropped below 50% for part of the year, my overall annual usage was still above 50%. I wrote a letter explaining the unusual circumstances (medical situation that kept me from using the vehicle for business temporarily) and included all my documentation. The IRS reduced my recapture amount but didn't eliminate it entirely. From what I understand, they have some discretion in these cases but rarely waive the recapture completely unless there are extraordinary circumstances.
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Javier Torres
Great question about Section 179 and vehicle usage! I went through something similar with my construction business vehicles last year. Just to add to what others have mentioned - one strategy that worked for me was being very strategic about which vehicle I used for different types of trips. When I got my second work truck, I made sure to use my original truck for all client visits, job site inspections, and supply runs to keep the business percentage high, while using the new truck for the heavier hauling work. I also found it helpful to set up a simple system where I logged the odometer reading and purpose every time I got in either vehicle. It only takes a few seconds but gives you bulletproof documentation if the IRS ever questions your business use percentages. One thing to watch out for - the recapture calculation can be pretty harsh if you fall below 50%. In my case, dropping from 70% to 45% business use would have meant recapturing about 60% of my original Section 179 deduction as ordinary income. Definitely worth the effort to stay above that threshold!
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StarStrider
β’This is really helpful advice! I'm new to business vehicle deductions and wondering - when you say you logged odometer readings for every trip, did you use a physical logbook or some kind of app? Also, do you need to track the specific business purpose for each trip or is it enough just to note "business" vs "personal"? I'm thinking about getting my first business vehicle and want to make sure I set up the tracking system correctly from day one to avoid any Section 179 issues down the road.
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