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I've been through this exact situation with H&R Block and SBTPG multiple times. Unfortunately, once you've filed with the fee deduction option, you're stuck with SBTPG - there's no way to switch banks at this point. The IRS will send your full refund to SBTPG, they'll take out the H&R Block fees plus their own processing fee (usually around $35-40), then deposit the rest into your account. The good news is that most people get their money within 1-3 business days after SBTPG receives it from the IRS. You can track the status on the SBTPG website once your refund gets sent there. While there are definitely horror stories out there, the majority of refunds process smoothly through them. For future reference, paying the tax prep fees upfront with a credit/debit card when you file will let you bypass SBTPG completely - your refund goes straight from the IRS to your bank account. It's definitely worth doing if you can swing the upfront cost. Your $3400 refund should come through fine, just keep an eye on the tracking once it moves from the IRS to SBTPG. Hang in there!
Thanks for the detailed explanation! It's reassuring to hear that most refunds go through smoothly even though the horror stories get all the attention. I'll definitely keep checking the SBTPG tracking once my refund moves over there. Really appreciate the tip about paying upfront next year - seems like a small price to pay to avoid all this stress and uncertainty. Here's hoping my $3400 comes through without any issues! π€
I feel your pain on this one! I made the same mistake a few years back and learned this lesson the hard way. Once you've selected the "pay from refund" option with H&R Block, you're definitely locked into the SBTPG route - no way to change it after filing. The silver lining is that while SBTPG gets a lot of negative press online, most refunds actually do process through them without major issues. They typically hold onto your refund for 24-48 hours to deduct the fees, then send the remainder to your account. Just make sure to check both the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool AND the SBTPG tracking portal so you know exactly where your money is in the pipeline. One thing that helped me was setting up account alerts with my bank so I'd get notified the second the deposit hit. That $3400 should make it through just fine - try not to let the horror stories stress you out too much. Next year, definitely pay those prep fees upfront if you can swing it. Direct deposit from the IRS is so much simpler and you avoid that extra processing fee entirely.
Quick question - does anyone know if you need to file Schedule A with Form 990-EZ when doing a retroactive reinstatement for a 501(c)(5) labor organization? I'm in a similar situation but getting conflicting info.
Labor organizations under 501(c)(5) generally don't need to file Schedule A with their Form 990-EZ. Schedule A is primarily for 501(c)(3) organizations to demonstrate their public charity status. Since labor unions qualify under a different section (501(c)(5)), you're exempt from this requirement. Focus on accurately completing the core 990-EZ forms for each year, and be sure to include a reasonable cause statement explaining why the filings were missed as part of your reinstatement request.
Just wanted to add another perspective on the liability reporting question. I went through a similar reinstatement process for our trade association (also 501(c)(5)) last year, and one thing that tripped me up initially was understanding what constitutes a "liability" in this context. Beyond the obvious ones like unpaid bills and loans that others mentioned, don't forget about accrued payroll taxes, deferred membership dues (if you collect dues in advance), and any accrued vacation pay for employees. These are all liabilities that need to be reported on Line 26 even under cash accounting. Also, since you're doing 10 years of back filings, make sure you're consistent in how you report liabilities across all years. The IRS will notice if your methodology changes dramatically between years without explanation. Good luck with your reinstatement - the process is tedious but definitely doable!
This is incredibly helpful! I hadn't thought about accrued payroll taxes or deferred dues as liabilities that need reporting. Since our union collects annual dues at the beginning of each year, I definitely need to account for any unearned portion as a liability. The consistency point across all 10 years is really important too - I can see how sudden changes in reporting methodology could raise red flags during the reinstatement review. Did you include any explanatory notes with your filings to clarify your liability reporting approach, or just maintain consistency in the actual numbers? Also, do you remember roughly how long the reinstatement process took once you submitted everything? I'm trying to set realistic expectations for our members about when we'll have our exempt status back.
Make sure you coordinate with siblings BEFORE filing! My brother and I both claimed our dad using Multiple Support Declarations last year because of miscommunication, and we both got audited! Total nightmare sorting it out with the IRS. Also check if your mom qualifies for the new $2,000 family caregiver credit - it's separate from dependent status.
The family caregiver credit is only $500 for 2025 tax year, not $2,000. And it's only available if the person qualifies as your dependent. You can't get it if you're just providing care but not claiming them as a dependent on your taxes.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who went through this exact situation with my father-in-law two years ago, I wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped us: 1. **Document everything meticulously** - Keep receipts for ALL expenses, even small ones like toiletries or food. We used a shared Google Sheet where each sibling could log their contributions monthly. This made calculating the support percentages much easier at tax time. 2. **Get the agreements signed early** - Don't wait until tax season to discuss who will claim the dependent. We had our family meeting in November and got all the Form 2120s signed by December. This prevented any last-minute disputes or delays. 3. **Consider the "fairness factor"** - Even though the person claiming gets all the tax benefits, we worked out an informal agreement where I (as the claimant) helped cover some unexpected medical expenses throughout the year since I was getting the tax advantage. 4. **Medical expenses are tricky** - If you're paying medical bills directly to providers, make sure those receipts clearly show the patient's name and your payment. The IRS may want to see this documentation if they audit the support calculation. The Multiple Support Declaration really is a lifesaver for families sharing elder care costs. Just make sure everyone's on the same page from the beginning!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about the shared Google Sheet - that's such a smart way to track everyone's contributions throughout the year. I'm definitely going to set that up with my siblings. Quick question about the medical expenses documentation - if I pay for mom's prescriptions with my credit card but pick them up for her, does that still count as me providing the support? Or does she need to be present when I pay? Some of her medications are quite expensive and I want to make sure I'm documenting this correctly for the support calculation. Also, the early agreement signing is brilliant. We're already having some tension about who should claim her, so getting everyone to agree in writing before emotions run high sounds like the way to go. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Has anyone had success getting these penalties waived after they've already been assessed? I made the same mistake (filed MISC instead of NEC) but didn't realize it until I got a CP2100 notice with proposed penalties of $2,400 for my 48 incorrect forms. Feeling sick about this.
Yes! I received a penalty notice for a similar situation and successfully got it waived. Write a penalty abatement letter citing "reasonable cause" and explaining the confusion with the new form requirements. Include timeline details showing you acted in good faith and corrected promptly once you discovered the error. Reference IRS's First Time Abatement policy if this is your first penalty. In my case, they waived 100% of the penalties after review. Don't pay until you've gone through the abatement process - it works more often than people realize, especially for this specific 1099-NEC transition issue.
I went through this exact nightmare last year and wanted to share what actually happened with my case. Filed 35 1099-MISC forms instead of 1099-NEC, totaling about $89,000 in contractor payments. Here's the reality: I filed the corrected MISC forms (with zeros) and new NEC forms about 6 weeks after the original deadline. Got a penalty notice for $1,750 three months later. But here's the key - I immediately responded with a reasonable cause letter explaining the form confusion and included documentation showing my original timely filing attempt. The IRS completely waived all penalties within 8 weeks of my response. The letter I sent emphasized three things: (1) I filed timely with good faith intent to comply, (2) this was my first year dealing with the NEC requirement, and (3) I corrected the error promptly once discovered. Don't panic about potential penalties - focus on getting your corrections filed properly and be prepared to explain the situation if needed. The IRS has been surprisingly reasonable about this specific transition issue. Just make sure you keep detailed records of everything you file and when.
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There's a form you were supposed to sign called a "Refund Authorization Form" or something similar that gives permission for this arrangement. Did they have you sign anything like that? If not, that's a big red flag. Check all your paperwork carefully. Also, just for future reference, there are free tax filing options that don't pull this refund transfer stuff. The IRS Free File program lets most people file for free if your income is under $73,000, and they don't play these games with your refund. Looking at section 35 is smart - always check where your money is going! Not a dumb question at all.
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Ryan, you're absolutely right to be concerned about this! What you're describing sounds like a Refund Transfer service, but the key issue is whether Fiesta properly disclosed this to you beforehand. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. **Check your paperwork** - Look for any forms mentioning "Refund Transfer," "RAC," or authorization to receive your refund on your behalf. You should have signed something specifically agreeing to this. 2. **Call Fiesta first thing tomorrow** - Ask them directly: "Did you set up a refund transfer for my return?" and request a complete breakdown of ALL fees (preparation + transfer fees). 3. **Get it in writing** - Ask them to email you confirmation of the arrangement and timeline for when you'll receive your remaining refund. If they can't provide clear documentation that you agreed to this, or if they're being evasive, you may want to contact the IRS directly. The banking info in sections 35a/b/d should definitely be explained to you - either it's your account for direct deposit, or it's their account for a refund transfer that you explicitly agreed to. Don't feel stupid for asking - this is exactly the kind of thing tax preparers should explain clearly upfront, and many don't do a good job of it. Better to get answers now than be surprised later!
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