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Luca Ricci

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Just want to add one point of clarification that I haven't seen mentioned yet. The "a" columns on the 1040 serve different purposes for different types of income: - For line 2a (tax-exempt interest): This is NEVER included in your income calculation. - For line 3a (qualified dividends): This IS included in your income (as part of 3b), but is shown separately because it gets preferential tax rates. - For lines 4a-6a (retirement distributions): Only the taxable portions in the "b" columns are included in your income. For your pension rollover with code G, you're doing it right. The IRS requires reporting of rollovers even though they're not taxable events. That's why 5a shows the amount but 5b is zero.

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I've been doing my own taxes for years and never fully understood the difference between these columns! So for qualified dividends (3a), that amount is a portion of the total dividends (3b), not the other way around? I think I've been thinking about this backward.

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Luca Ricci

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Yes, you've got it! For dividends, line 3b shows your TOTAL dividends from all sources. Line 3a shows only the portion of those dividends that qualify for the lower long-term capital gains tax rates. So line 3a is always less than or equal to line 3b, never more. All of your dividends (3b) count as income, but the IRS wants to know specifically how much qualifies for preferential tax treatment (3a), which is why they're broken out separately.

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This is a really helpful discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation and want to make sure I understand the key takeaway: the "a" columns on lines 4-6 are basically "for information only" when it comes to calculating your actual taxable income, right? So if I have: - Line 4a (IRA): $15,000 - Line 4b (IRA): $3,000 - Line 5a (Pensions): $25,000 - Line 5b (Pensions): $0 Only the $3,000 from line 4b actually gets added to my total income, and the pension amount doesn't contribute anything to my AGI since 5b is zero? The IRS just wants to see the gross amounts that were distributed even if they weren't taxable events? I'm asking because I want to double-check my understanding before I file - I've been second-guessing myself on whether those "a" column amounts somehow get counted twice in the income calculation.

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Ava Williams

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bruh the IRS is slower than my grandma using a smartphone fr fr 🐌

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Miguel Castro

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Don't panic! February 3rd was only 6 days ago, so you're still well within the normal timeframe. The IRS typically processes e-filed returns within 21 days, and transcripts usually update on Friday mornings. Since you filed on a Monday, your return is probably still in the queue for processing. I'd give it until at least February 21st before getting concerned. The transcript lag is totally normal - sometimes the "Where's My Refund" tool updates before transcripts do anyway.

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Isabel Vega

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Just wanted to add that checking your refund status obsessively doesn't make it come any faster lol. The "Where's My Refund" tool and the IRS2Go app only update once per day (usually overnight), so checking multiple times daily is pointless. I learned this the hard way after refreshing like 20 times a day my first time filing! Also, the IRS has a weird system where they use 3 status updates: Return Received, Refund Approved, and Refund Sent. The annoying part is you can sit on "Return Received" for weeks with no visible progress, then suddenly jump to "Refund Sent" on the same day. Don't panic if it seems stuck on the first status - that's normal.

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This is so true! I was checking literally every hour my first time and driving myself crazy. Another thing to note is that sometimes your bank might hold the funds for 1-2 days after the IRS sends them, especially if you're using an online bank. So even after the IRS says "sent" you might need to wait a bit longer.

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Leo McDonald

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Hey Jenna! Welcome to the world of taxes - it can definitely feel overwhelming at first, but you're asking all the right questions. Since you e-filed with direct deposit and this sounds like a straightforward return, you're very likely to get your refund within that 21-day window the IRS mentions. For most simple returns, it's actually closer to 10-14 days. Your roommates might be thinking of more complicated situations or remembering the delays from a few years ago during COVID. The 120-day timeline you saw online is probably for worst-case scenarios like paper filing, complex returns with multiple schedules, or situations where the IRS needs additional verification. Since you're in Boise, there's no special processing delay for your location - all e-filed returns go through the same national system regardless of where you live. Keep an eye on the "Where's My Refund" tool or download the IRS2Go app to track your status. Try not to check it obsessively though (it only updates once a day)! You should be getting your money soon. Congrats on filing your first return!

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Nia Thompson

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Thanks for the reassuring response, Leo! As another newcomer to the tax world, I'm curious - is there anything specific we should watch out for that might slow down processing for first-time filers? I keep hearing conflicting information about whether being a new taxpayer affects the timeline at all. Also, should we be concerned if the refund amount ends up being different from what we calculated when filing?

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Payton Black

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Henry, you're probably looking at the right transcript but might be missing where exactly to look! The cycle code isn't always super obvious. Try this: on your Account Transcript, look for the line with Transaction Code 150 (your return filing). To the right of that 150 code, you should see a date column, and then further right there should be a longer number - that's your cycle code. It might be formatted differently than you expect, sometimes appearing as something like "20242305" rather than with dashes or spaces. If you're still not seeing it, try refreshing your transcript download or double-check that you selected "Account Transcript" rather than "Return Transcript" when you requested it. The formatting can vary slightly depending on how you access it (online vs mail), but it should definitely be there on the 150 line!

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Ryan Young

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@Henry Delgado I had the exact same issue when I first started looking for my cycle code! What helped me was realizing that on some transcript formats, the cycle code appears in a column that might be labeled Cycle-Action-Date "or" just Cycle "rather" than being obviously called a cycle "code. Also," if you re'viewing it online through the IRS website versus downloading a PDF, the formatting can look completely different. One thing that worked for me was printing out the transcript and using a highlighter to mark each column header - sometimes seeing it on paper makes the layout clearer than squinting at it on screen. The 14-digit number should definitely be there somewhere on that 150 line though!

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Caden Nguyen

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I've been helping family members navigate this same confusion for years! One thing that really helped me was learning that the cycle code location can vary slightly depending on which processing center handled your return. If you're still having trouble finding it after checking the 150 line, look for any 8-digit number that starts with "2024" or "2025" (for current tax year) - that's likely your cycle code. Also, a pro tip: once you find your cycle code, write it down somewhere because the IRS transcript system can be slow to load, and you'll probably want to check it multiple times during tax season. I keep mine in a note on my phone along with the date I found it, which helps me track any updates. The cycle code has been surprisingly helpful for me in planning when to expect my refund, even though it's not 100% precise. Just remember that while it gives you a good estimate, there can always be processing delays or other factors that affect the actual deposit timing.

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Sayid Hassan

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One warning about the S Corp mileage situation - if you don't do this correctly, it can be a huge audit flag! My brother-in-law got audited specifically because he was deducting mileage directly on his S Corp return without an accountable plan. The IRS disallowed all his mileage deductions for 3 years and hit him with penalties. Make sure whatever approach you take is properly documented. If you're using the accountable plan method, you need contemporaneous mileage logs (not created after the fact) and regular reimbursement payments that are clearly identified in your books.

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Rachel Tao

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Did your brother-in-law use some kind of app to track mileage? I've been using MileIQ but wondering if there are better options that specifically handle the S Corp situation.

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Diego Vargas

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This is exactly the situation I found myself in last year! The S Corp election creates this weird dynamic where you're simultaneously the owner and an employee, which definitely complicates vehicle deductions. Your accountant is 100% correct about needing the accountable plan. I learned this the hard way when I tried to just deduct mileage directly on my S Corp return and my CPA had to amend it. The key thing to understand is that once you elect S Corp status, the IRS treats you as an employee for certain purposes, and employees can't deduct unreimbursed business expenses on their personal returns anymore (thanks to the 2017 tax law changes). Here's what I did to set up my accountable plan: I created a simple written policy stating that my S Corp would reimburse me at the IRS standard mileage rate for documented business travel. I keep a detailed mileage log with date, destination, business purpose, and miles driven. Then I submit monthly reimbursement requests to my S Corp with supporting documentation. The reimbursements aren't taxable income to me, and my S Corp gets the full deduction. It's actually more tax-efficient than trying to deduct it personally would have been. The paperwork is a bit annoying, but it's worth it to stay compliant and maximize the tax benefits.

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Thanks for sharing your experience with this! As someone new to S Corp elections, this whole employee vs owner distinction is really confusing. When you submit your monthly reimbursement requests, do you need to process them through payroll or can you just cut yourself a regular business check? Also, do you need to maintain separate bank accounts or documentation to keep the reimbursements clearly distinct from your regular salary and distributions?

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