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AstroAlpha

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According to Internal Revenue Manual 21.5.6.4.35.3, the TC 570 indicates a refund hold while TC 768 confirms EIC computation. Per IRS Publication 5344, the PATH Act requires additional verification for certain refundable credits. I understand your frustration with the wait time - many taxpayers are experiencing similar delays this filing season. The status change is encouraging and suggests your return has completed the mandatory review period. Continue monitoring your transcript for TC 971 or TC 846, which would indicate further action or refund issuance respectively.

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Riya Sharma

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I went through this exact scenario two months ago! Had TC 570 over TC 768, stuck in PATH for 32 days, then status changed to processing just like yours. Got my refund deposited exactly 9 days after the status change. The combination of codes you're seeing is actually pretty standard for EIC claims during PATH season. Since your status just changed yesterday, I'd expect to see movement within the next week or two. Keep checking your transcript daily - you'll likely see a TC 846 (refund issued) code appear soon with your deposit date. The waiting is brutal but you're definitely in the home stretch now!

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Demi Lagos

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Thanks for sharing your experience @90a54f736f6d! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. 9 days after status change sounds much more manageable than the month+ I've already been waiting. I've been checking my transcript obsessively (probably not healthy lol) but I'll keep an eye out for that TC 846 code you mentioned. Did you notice any other codes appear between the status change and the actual refund deposit, or was it pretty much just straight to the 846?

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Axel Far

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This whole thread has been eye-opening! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I had very little income last year and assumed I didn't need to file. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear that filing a zero or low-income return can actually be beneficial in ways I never considered. The point about creating an official record with the IRS makes a lot of sense, especially for future reference. And I had no idea about refundable credits being available even without owing taxes - that seems like something the IRS should make more widely known! I'm definitely going to check out some of the tools mentioned here, particularly for analyzing what credits I might be eligible for. It sounds like there could be money on the table that I'm just leaving behind by not filing. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing tax situations that don't fit the "normal" scenarios most tax advice covers.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Absolutely agree! This thread has been a goldmine of practical information. I'm in a similar situation and honestly feel like I've been walking around blind to all these potential benefits. The idea that you can get refunds even with zero income through refundable credits is something I wish was more common knowledge. What really strikes me is how much the "standard" tax advice doesn't cover these edge cases. Most resources assume you have regular W-2 income, but there are so many people in non-traditional situations who could benefit from filing. I'm definitely bookmarking this discussion and plan to explore those analysis tools before the next filing season. It's also reassuring to know there's still time to go back and file for previous years if needed. That three-year window could be really valuable for people who missed out on credits they didn't know existed.

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Natalie Wang

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This thread is incredibly informative! I had a similar situation last year where I was between jobs for most of the year and only had about $800 in unemployment benefits. I initially thought "why bother filing?" but after reading everyone's experiences here, I realize I probably missed out on some benefits. The point about unemployment benefits being taxable income is something I completely overlooked - I just assumed since it was government assistance, it wouldn't count as "real" income for tax purposes. And the mention of refundable credits is fascinating - I had no idea you could potentially get money back even when you barely made anything. I'm particularly interested in the tools people have mentioned for analyzing these non-standard situations. It sounds like there are resources specifically designed for people in our boat, which is refreshing since most mainstream tax advice assumes you have a regular paycheck. One question for those who have filed zero or low-income returns - did you run into any issues with the IRS questioning such a low income filing? I'm always worried about triggering some kind of audit flag, even when doing everything correctly.

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Great question about audit concerns! In my experience, filing a low-income or zero-income return actually reduces audit risk rather than increasing it. The IRS is generally more interested in high-income returns with complex deductions or business income that might be underreported. When you file a return showing minimal income and claiming only standard refundable credits (like EITC or education credits), you're actually being transparent with the IRS about your situation. Not filing when you're eligible for refunds is more likely to cause issues down the line if they ever need to verify your income history. Regarding unemployment benefits - yes, they're definitely taxable income! Many people don't realize this. Even though it's government assistance, it counts as income for tax purposes. The good news is that if you only had $800 in unemployment, your total tax liability would likely be zero anyway, but you might still qualify for refundable credits. I'd recommend using one of those analysis tools mentioned earlier to see what you might have missed for last year, and definitely don't let audit fears prevent you from claiming money you're legitimately owed!

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Chloe Harris

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Has anyone actually tried filing the revocation themselves? I'm worried I'll mess something up and make my situation worse.

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Diego Vargas

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I revoked my POA myself last year. It's not that complicated - just get a fresh Form 2848 from the IRS website, fill out your info in Part 1, the representative's info in Part 2, check the revocation box in Part 6, and sign it. Then mail it to the same IRS office where you filed the original form. I called the IRS about 3 weeks later (took forever to get through) and they confirmed it was processed. The most important thing is making sure you list ALL the tax forms and years from the original POA so everything gets properly revoked.

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Mei Liu

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago - hired a tax attorney who did absolutely nothing for almost 2 years while my problems got worse. The revocation process is actually pretty straightforward once you know what to do. Like others mentioned, you'll need to file a new Form 2848 with the revocation box checked in Part 6. The key thing is to make sure you include ALL the same tax years and form types that were on your original power of attorney. If you're not sure what was included originally, you can call the IRS and ask them to read back what's currently on file. One thing I learned the hard way - don't wait to revoke it even if you haven't found a replacement yet. Having an inactive representative is actually worse than having no representative at all because the IRS will still try to communicate through them instead of directly with you. Once I revoked mine, I was finally able to get direct access to my account and start making progress on my own. Also, definitely send a certified letter to your current attorney letting them know you're revoking their authorization. Even though it's not legally required, it protects you if they try to take any action on your behalf after the revocation date.

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Dmitry Popov

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about not waiting to find a replacement before revoking! I never thought about how having an inactive representative could actually block direct communication with the IRS. That explains why I keep getting form letters saying they've sent correspondence to my representative when I haven't heard anything from them in months. Quick question - when you called the IRS to ask what was on your original POA, did you have any trouble getting through to someone who could actually access that information? I'm worried about spending hours on hold just to get transferred around.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you use actual expense method the first year you use a vehicle for business, you CAN'T switch to standard mileage rate later. But if you use standard mileage rate first, you CAN switch to actual expenses in future years. Something to keep in mind before you commit to actual expenses!

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Wow I had no idea about this! This actually changes my whole approach. I think I'll stick with standard mileage for the first year then, even if it might be slightly less advantageous, just to keep my options open for the future. Thanks for pointing this out!

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Aisha Khan

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This is an excellent point about the one-way limitation. Once you choose actual expenses, you're locked in for the life of that vehicle for business use. Another important consideration is that if you're leasing a vehicle and choose the actual expense method, you must continue using it for the entire lease period. The standard mileage rate usually works out better for fuel-efficient vehicles with lower maintenance costs, while actual expenses often benefits larger vehicles or those with higher operating costs.

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Noah Irving

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm a CPA and want to add a few key points that might help clarify the record-keeping requirements: 1. **Contemporaneous records are crucial** - The IRS requires that mileage logs be created at or near the time of travel, not reconstructed months later. This is true for both methods. 2. **Sampling can work** - You don't need to log every single trip if you can establish a representative sample that demonstrates your typical business use pattern. A 3-month detailed log that shows consistent business use can often support your claimed percentage for the full year. 3. **Digital solutions are IRS-acceptable** - Apps, GPS trackers, and other digital tools are perfectly valid as long as they capture the required elements: date, business purpose, destination, and mileage. 4. **The 70% estimate concern** - Your gut feeling of 70% business use needs documentation to back it up. Without records, the IRS could challenge this during an audit and potentially disallow the entire deduction. My recommendation? Start with the standard mileage rate method for your first year since it's simpler and keeps your options open. Use a mileage tracking app to build good habits, then evaluate both methods next year when you have solid data to compare the actual dollar benefits.

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Nia Watson

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Thank you for this comprehensive breakdown! As someone just starting to navigate business vehicle expenses, this is exactly the kind of professional insight I needed. The point about contemporaneous records being crucial really hits home - I've been putting off tracking because it seemed overwhelming, but I realize now that waiting will only make it harder to establish legitimate documentation. Your suggestion about starting with standard mileage rate makes a lot of sense for flexibility. I'm curious though - when you mention a 3-month sampling period, does it matter which 3 months you choose? Should it be consecutive months or can it be spread throughout the year to account for seasonal variations in business travel? Also, do you have any recommendations for specific mileage tracking apps that you've seen work well for your clients in audit situations?

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Mei Wong

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Great questions! For sampling periods, I typically recommend clients choose months that represent their normal business activity - avoid unusually busy or slow periods if possible. The three months don't need to be consecutive, and spreading them throughout the year can actually strengthen your case by showing consistency across different seasons. For apps, I've had good success with clients using MileIQ, Everlance, and TripLog. All three create IRS-compliant documentation and have held up well in audit situations. The key is picking one you'll actually use consistently - the best app is the one you'll stick with. One pro tip: Even if you're using standard mileage rate, still track your actual expenses (gas, maintenance, etc.) for comparison. This gives you data to make an informed choice in future years and ensures you're always maximizing your deduction.

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I'm currently experiencing this exact same issue with Pathward and it's incredibly frustrating! My transcript shows they've had my refund since 2/25, but when I called yesterday they gave me the same story about holding it until exactly 2/28 at 3 AM Eastern. What really bothers me is that this seems to be their standard operating procedure, but there's absolutely no mention of this policy anywhere on their website or mobile app. You'd think they would at least warn customers about this during tax season so we could plan accordingly. The rep I spoke with was polite but made it crystal clear that there are no exceptions - not even for long-time customers or small amounts. I'm already looking into switching to a local credit union for next year after hearing how other banks release funds early. At least we have a specific time to expect it, but this whole experience has really soured me on Pathward's customer service philosophy. Thanks for starting this discussion - it's reassuring to know I'm not the only one dealing with this rigid policy!

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation and it's so frustrating! This is my first year using Pathward for my tax refund and I had no idea they had this policy. My transcript also shows they received my funds on 2/25, but they're being super rigid about the 2/28 release date. What really gets me is that I specifically asked about their refund policies when I opened the account last year, and the representative never mentioned this holding practice. I feel like this should be clearly disclosed upfront, especially since it's such a departure from how most other banks handle early ACH receipts. I'm definitely switching banks next year - probably going to go with one of the credit unions people have mentioned here. Thanks for sharing your experience, it really helps to know this is their standard policy and not some kind of error with my specific deposit!

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Nia Jackson

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I'm experiencing this exact same issue with Pathward right now! My transcript shows they received my refund on 2/26, but they're holding it until the official 2/28 deposit date. I called this morning and after waiting on hold for over an hour, the representative confirmed they have a strict policy of not releasing tax refunds early regardless of when they receive the funds from the IRS. She explained that their system automatically holds all tax refunds until the exact effective date specified by the IRS - in this case 2/28 at approximately 3:00 AM Eastern. What's particularly frustrating is that I chose direct deposit specifically to get my refund faster, but Pathward's rigid policy essentially negates that benefit. I understand it's technically legal under banking regulations, but it feels like they prioritize their own cash flow management over customer convenience. Has anyone here had success switching to a different bank mid-tax season, or should I just wait it out and make the switch for next year? This whole experience has really opened my eyes to how different banks handle ACH deposits - definitely doing my research before choosing where to receive next year's refund!

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I'm in the exact same boat and it's so frustrating! This is actually my first time filing taxes and I had no idea banks could have such different policies for the same government deposit. My transcript also shows Pathward has had my refund since 2/26, but they won't budge on that 2/28 date. When I called yesterday, the rep was nice but basically gave me the same script about their "automated system" that can't make exceptions. What really bugs me is that my roommate uses a local credit union and got her refund yesterday with the same official deposit date! I'm definitely learning my lesson here - next year I'm switching to a bank that actually puts customers first instead of holding onto our money for extra days. At least knowing it'll post at 3 AM helps me plan, but this whole experience has been really eye-opening about how much bank choice matters during tax season!

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