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Does anyone know if the payment processors send you a receipt or confirmation? I paid through one last year but never got anything by email, just the confirmation number on the screen which I wrote down. Is that normal?

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Yes, that's normal. They show the confirmation on screen which you should save/print, but they generally don't email receipts. Make sure you write down or screenshot that confirmation number - it's your only proof of payment until the IRS processes it!

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For anyone still concerned about the 1040-V voucher - I had the same worry last year! The key thing to remember is that when you pay online with a credit card, the payment processor automatically links your payment to your tax return using your SSN and other identifying info you enter during checkout. The 1040-V is essentially just a paper trail for mailed payments. Think of it like a deposit slip at the bank - if you're doing online banking, you don't need the paper slip because the electronic transaction handles all the routing. One tip: after you make your online payment, you can check that it went through by logging into your IRS account online after a few business days. It should show up under your payment history, which gives you extra peace of mind that everything was processed correctly.

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Sean Doyle

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I actually went through this exact situation two years ago when I moved from Pennsylvania to North Carolina mid-year. Here's what I learned from my CPA: you definitely want to keep detailed records of both offices including photos, measurements, and receipts for any office-related expenses. One thing that wasn't mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking the move itself too. Some of your moving expenses might be deductible as business expenses if you're self-employed, especially if the move was primarily for business reasons. This includes things like temporary storage if you had a gap between homes that affected your ability to work. Also, don't forget about depreciation if you own either of the homes. The home office deduction can include depreciation on the business portion of your home, but you'll need to calculate it separately for each property based on the time periods you used each office. This gets complex with mid-year moves, so definitely document everything thoroughly. The key is consistency in your method and rock-solid documentation. The IRS cares more about proper substantiation than they do about which calculation method you choose.

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I went through this exact same situation last year when I moved from Oregon to Arizona in July. One thing I learned that might help - make sure you're also considering the different utility costs between your two locations when calculating actual expenses. My Oregon office heating costs were way higher than my Arizona cooling costs, which affected my deduction calculations significantly. Also, if you're using the regular method, don't forget about indirect expenses like home insurance and general repairs/maintenance that can be allocated to your office space. These often get overlooked but can add up, especially when you have two different properties with different maintenance needs. The state tax allocation piece is crucial too - some states have different rules about how business income gets sourced, so you might want to check if your old state considers work done there as sourced to that state even if you moved mid-year. I had to file partial year returns in both states and allocate my Schedule C income based on where I actually performed the work. One last tip: keep a simple calendar or log showing which days you worked from which office. It really helps if you ever need to prove the allocation to either the IRS or state tax authorities.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is incredibly helpful! I hadn't thought about the utility cost differences between locations. My old place in Minnesota had much higher heating bills than my current place in Florida, so that could definitely impact my calculations. Quick question about the work location tracking - did you track this by actual work days or just by the dates you lived in each place? I'm wondering if I need to account for any business trips or days I worked outside either home office during the transition period. Also, do you know if there are any special considerations for contract workers versus employees when it comes to the state tax allocation? I'm doing 1099 work for multiple clients and I'm not sure if the sourcing rules are different.

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Amun-Ra Azra

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Don't forget state taxes! Depending on your state, the rules and deadlines might be different than federal. Some states are more aggressive about pursuing unfiled returns than the IRS. I learned this the hard way when NY state came after me for unfiled returns even though I was owed refunds on the federal side. They added penalties even though I didn't owe them any tax either! Had to file the returns and then request penalty abatement.

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Summer Green

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What did you say to get the penalties removed? My state is charging me fees and I don't know how to ask for them to be forgiven.

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Eli Wang

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For state penalty abatement, you typically need to request "reasonable cause" relief by writing a letter explaining why you filed late. Common acceptable reasons include serious illness, death in family, natural disasters, or reliance on bad advice from a tax professional. In your letter, include: 1) A clear statement requesting penalty abatement, 2) The specific tax years and penalty types, 3) Your explanation of the circumstances that prevented timely filing, 4) Any supporting documentation, and 5) A statement that you've now filed all required returns. Most states have forms for this - search "[your state] penalty abatement request" or "reasonable cause relief." Be honest and specific about your circumstances. Even if it was just procrastination, some states will waive penalties for first-time filers or if the amount is small. Worth trying since the worst they can say is no!

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This is really helpful advice! I had no idea that states would consider "reasonable cause" for penalty relief. I've been putting off dealing with my state penalties because I assumed there was no way out of them. Do you know if there's typically a time limit for requesting penalty abatement? Like if the penalties were assessed a year ago, is it too late to ask for relief?

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I was in almost the exact same boat last month (though I guess my situation was slightly less complicated). Called the TAS number (877-777-4778) every day for a week at exactly 7:00 AM Eastern when they open. Finally got through on Thursday, explained my situation, and the advocate was actually pretty helpful! She created a case file and contacted the specific department handling my amended return. Got a resolution within 10 days after that. The secret seems to be calling right when they open - who would have thought government offices actually answer phones at opening time? šŸ˜‚

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Margot Quinn

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation - my 1040X has been stuck "in process" for 76 days now and I'm getting nowhere with the regular IRS phone lines. Based on what everyone's shared here, I'm planning to try calling the TAS national line (877-777-4778) first thing tomorrow morning at 7 AM sharp, since Gabriel had success with that timing. If that doesn't work, I'll look up my local TAS office using the zip code tool on their website. One question for those who've successfully worked with TAS - how specific did you need to be about financial hardship? I'm not facing eviction or utility shutoffs, but the delay is preventing me from finalizing some financial planning decisions that are time-sensitive. Would that qualify, or do they really need to see immediate financial distress? Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful!

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From my experience as someone new to dealing with TAS, they seem pretty strict about what qualifies as "hardship." Financial planning delays might not be enough unless you can show concrete consequences - like missing a mortgage deadline, loan approval expiring, or business decisions that cost money due to the delay. That said, it's worth trying! The worst they can say is no, and at 76 days you're definitely approaching the timeframe where they might consider it excessive. Good luck with the 7 AM call strategy - that seems to be the golden advice from this thread!

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - check if your mother's trust becomes irrevocable upon death (most living trusts do). This affects how you handle the taxation going forward. If the trust became irrevocable upon death, you'll need to: 1. Apply for a new EIN for the now-irrevocable trust 2. File Form 1041 for any income generated by trust assets after death 3. Issue K-1s to beneficiaries for distributed income The Form 56 process is still needed as others described, but don't overlook these additional requirements. The IRS publication 559 "Survivors, Executors, and Administrators" has detailed guidance that was super helpful in my case.

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Do you really always need a new EIN when a living trust becomes irrevocable after death? I thought that was only necessary if the trust was splitting into separate shares for multiple beneficiaries.

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You're right that there are some exceptions. The full rule is a bit nuanced - a new EIN is generally required when a trust changes its character substantially enough to make it a different entity for federal tax purposes. When a living trust becomes irrevocable upon death, it's usually considered a new entity for tax purposes, especially if it will continue to exist to manage and distribute assets. However, if the trust will be fully distributed immediately to a single beneficiary, you might be able to continue using the decedent's SSN for a short time. The safest approach is to get a new EIN, as using the wrong identifier can create significant complications later. IRS Publication 559 provides the details, but when I was in this situation, I found it easier to just get the new EIN to avoid any potential issues.

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Emma Davis

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my father's estate and living trust. One additional point I'd like to add based on my experience: when filing the two separate Form 56s that you mentioned, make sure to clearly differentiate the purposes in your cover letters or any correspondence. For the personal fiduciary Form 56 (to file your mom's 2022 taxes), I wrote "Filing Form 56 to establish fiduciary authority for decedent's final individual income tax return (Form 1040)" at the top. For the trust fiduciary Form 56, I wrote "Filing Form 56 to establish ongoing fiduciary authority for irrevocable trust taxation." This helped avoid confusion when the IRS processed them, especially since they were submitted close together. Also, keep copies of everything and consider sending them certified mail - the IRS processing times for Form 56 can be unpredictable, and having proof of submission dates was crucial when I had to follow up. The advice about Publication 559 is spot-on. It's dense reading, but it covers scenarios that most online resources miss. Good luck with everything!

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Sara Unger

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Thank you for this practical tip about differentiating the purposes in cover letters! I hadn't thought about that but it makes total sense given how easy it would be for the IRS to mix up two Form 56s submitted around the same time for related but different purposes. Your suggestion about certified mail is really smart too. I've been burned before by the IRS claiming they never received documents, so having that proof of delivery could save a lot of headaches down the road. One quick question - did you submit both Form 56s at the same time, or did you space them out? I'm wondering if submitting them simultaneously might actually help the IRS understand they're related but separate fiduciary roles, or if it's better to wait until the first one is processed before submitting the second.

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