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Protip: Account transcript updates every Tuesday and Friday morning around 6am EST. Save yourself the stress and just check those days

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ty for this! gonna stop obsessing every hour now lol

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Also make sure you're looking at the right section of the Account Transcript - the 846 code will be in the transactions section with a date next to it. If you see code 150 (tax return filed) but no 846 yet, it just means they're still processing. The refund date on the 846 code is usually the actual deposit date, so that's the golden number you're hunting for!

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Amara Chukwu

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I filed Form 8379 in January 2024 and received my refund in exactly 9 weeks. What helped me was keeping detailed records of all correspondence and checking my transcript weekly rather than relying on Where's My Refund, which barely updates for injured spouse cases. One tip that might help - make sure you clearly separate your income, withholdings, and any estimated tax payments on the form. Any ambiguity seems to add processing time. Also, if you have direct deposit set up, that can shave off a few extra days compared to waiting for a paper check. The waiting is brutal, but in my experience, most people do get their refunds closer to the 8-10 week mark rather than the full 11 weeks.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this whole process and had no idea that the transcript would be more informative than Where's My Refund. I'll definitely start checking that weekly instead. Your point about clearly separating income and withholdings makes a lot of sense too - I tried to be as detailed as possible on my form, but I'm second-guessing myself now about whether I was clear enough. It's reassuring to hear that 8-10 weeks seems to be more realistic than the full 11 weeks. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I filed Form 8379 in February 2024 and got my refund in exactly 10 weeks and 3 days. What really helped me track progress was setting up an online IRS account to monitor my transcript - the codes tell you way more than Where's My Refund ever will. I noticed the TC 971 notice code appeared around week 7, which indicated they were actively reviewing my case. One thing I learned is that if you're in genuine financial hardship, you can contact the Taxpayer Advocate Service even after the 30-day window - they have some discretion for urgent situations. The key is documenting your hardship thoroughly. Also, double-check that your bank account info is correct for direct deposit, as any errors there can add weeks to the process even after approval. Hang in there - most people I know got theirs between weeks 8-10!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed information I was hoping to find! I'm completely new to this process and had no idea about transcript codes or the Taxpayer Advocate Service option. Your timeline of 10 weeks and 3 days gives me a realistic expectation. I'm definitely going to set up that online IRS account to monitor my transcript - it sounds like that's the key to actually understanding what's happening behind the scenes. The TC 971 code appearing around week 7 is a really helpful benchmark to look for. I'm relieved to hear that even if I missed the initial 30-day window for hardship assistance, there might still be options if my situation becomes more urgent. Thank you for taking the time to share such comprehensive advice - it's incredibly helpful for someone navigating this for the first time!

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Great thread! Just to add one more resource - if you're still feeling uncertain about the filing requirements after using tax software, the IRS has a really helpful Interactive Tax Assistant tool on their website (irs.gov/help/ita). You can walk through a series of questions about your daughter's specific situation and it will give you a definitive answer about whether filing is required. I used it last year when my nephew had a similar situation with both W-2 income and investment sales. The tool is free, official, and takes into account all the different thresholds and rules that apply to dependents. It's particularly useful because it considers the interaction between earned income, unearned income, and gross proceeds from sales. Since you mentioned this is her first year investing, you might also want to keep good records of all her transactions beyond just what's on the 1099-B. If she continues investing, having detailed records of purchase dates, amounts, and any reinvested dividends will be invaluable for future tax years. Good luck with the filing!

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Isaac Wright

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Thanks for mentioning the Interactive Tax Assistant! I had no idea the IRS had that tool. As someone new to dealing with kids and taxes, it's reassuring to know there are official resources that can walk you through these situations step by step. The point about keeping detailed records is really smart too. I've been helping my teenage cousin with his first investment account, and we've just been relying on the brokerage statements. But you're right that having our own records of everything - especially for things like dividend reinvestments that might not show up clearly on tax forms - will probably save us headaches down the road. It's amazing how complicated taxes can get even for what seems like simple situations. Better to over-document than under-document when it comes to the IRS!

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Eve Freeman

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This is such a valuable discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my 16-year-old who started investing with birthday money. One thing I learned the hard way is that even though the gross proceeds threshold triggers the filing requirement, you also need to be careful about how the cost basis is reported on the 1099-B. Some brokerages don't track cost basis for stocks purchased before certain dates, or they might not have complete information if the stocks were transferred from another account. If the cost basis shows as "not reported to IRS" or is blank on the 1099-B, you'll need to provide that information on the tax return yourself. I'd recommend double-checking that the $2,800 cost basis on your daughter's 1099-B matches your records of what was actually paid for the stocks. If there are any discrepancies, you'll want to have documentation ready to support the correct cost basis when filing. The IRS will definitely notice if the reported gain doesn't match what they expect based on the 1099-B information they receive.

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AstroExplorer

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This is such an important point that I wish I had known earlier! I'm new to all this and just assumed the brokerage would handle all the cost basis reporting correctly. My daughter's 1099-B actually does show "basis not reported to IRS" for some of her transactions, and I had no idea that meant we needed to provide that information ourselves. Do you happen to know what kind of documentation the IRS typically wants for cost basis? We kept the original purchase confirmations from the brokerage, but I'm wondering if there's a specific way we need to present that information on the tax return. I'd rather be overprepared than scrambling later if they have questions. Also, this whole thread has been incredibly educational - I had no idea there were so many nuances to something that seemed straightforward at first. Thank you to everyone who's shared their experiences!

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Section 163(j) and suspended excess business interest expense on K-1 Line 13K - partnership tax implications

I've got an interesting situation with the recent tax law changes from December that I'm trying to wrap my head around. For those who deal with the 163(j) limitations, they changed the rules to allow 50% ATI instead of 30%, plus there's that change to 30-year ADS depreciation for pre-2018 property instead of the previous 40-year requirement. Here's my situation: - Partnership A used Form 8990 to limit interest in 2018 and 2019, allocating excess business interest expense to partners on K-1 Line 13K - For 2020, it makes more financial sense to make the 163(j) election since the depreciation difference between 30 and 40 year gives a bigger deduction than what we'd get using the 50% ATI formula My question is what happens to that Line 13K excess business interest expense that was passed through in 2018 and 2019? From what I understand, partners can't net excess business interest expense against excess business interest income from other partnerships they might have. And Partnership A won't ever generate excess business interest income to allow the EBIE to be deducted since we're making the 163(j) election. I know the new changes allow deducting 50% of EBIE from 2019, but there's still going to be some amount left in suspense. What's supposed to happen with the 13K that wasn't previously deducted? Is it just "lost" forever? Should it be deducted when disposing of the interest in Partnership A? Really appreciate any insights on this!

Has anyone here dealt with reporting suspended EBIE on partner tax returns when there's a partial disposition of a partnership interest? The regulations aren't super clear on how to allocate the suspended EBIE in that scenario.

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In a partial disposition, you generally allocate the suspended EBIE proportionally to the portion of the partnership interest being disposed of. So if you're selling 25% of your interest, 25% of the suspended EBIE would adjust your basis prior to calculating gain/loss, while 75% would remain suspended.

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This is a complex area that I've been wrestling with in my practice as well. One thing to keep in mind is that the proposed regulations under 163(j) specifically address the treatment of suspended EBIE when partnerships change their election status. Even though Partnership A is making the 163(j) election going forward, the suspended EBIE from 2018 and 2019 doesn't just disappear. The key is understanding that this suspended amount is tracked at the partner level, not the partnership level. Each partner maintains their own "bucket" of suspended EBIE from each partnership. Beyond the CARES Act relief allowing 50% deduction of 2019 EBIE, the remaining suspended amounts will indeed carry forward until one of the triggering events occurs - either the partnership generates excess taxable income/excess business interest income in future years, or the partner disposes of their interest. What's interesting about your situation is that even with the 163(j) election, Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years if its income profile changes significantly. The election doesn't permanently eliminate this possibility, it just makes it less likely given the trade-off you're making with depreciation periods. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of each partner's suspended EBIE by year and partnership, as this will be crucial for proper reporting when disposition or other triggering events eventually occur.

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Omar Fawaz

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This is really helpful context about the partner-level tracking versus partnership-level tracking. I've been getting confused about where the responsibility lies for maintaining these records. One follow-up question - when you mention that Partnership A could still potentially generate excess amounts in future years even with the 163(j) election, what would be the most common scenarios where this might happen? I'm trying to help my partners understand whether they should expect their suspended EBIE to remain in limbo indefinitely or if there are realistic paths for it to be utilized before disposition. Also, are there any specific record-keeping requirements or forms that partners need to maintain for tracking this suspended EBIE? I want to make sure we're documenting everything properly from the start.

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Amina Bah

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This has been such a helpful thread! I was in a similar situation with my disregarded LLC and was getting conflicting advice from different sources. The key takeaway I'm getting is that the entity classification for tax purposes is what really matters here. Just to summarize what I've learned from everyone's responses: - If your LLC is truly disregarded (no tax elections), Section 280A becomes problematic because you're essentially renting to yourself - If you've elected S-corp or C-corp taxation, then you have a separate taxpayer entity that can legitimately rent your residence - Documentation is absolutely critical - fair market rates, legitimate business purposes, proper meeting records - The 14-day limit is per residence, not per entity One question I still have: if you're a single-member LLC that elected S-corp taxation, do you need to follow all the S-corp formalities (board meetings, corporate resolutions, etc.) to make the Augusta Rule work properly? Or is the tax election alone sufficient?

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GalaxyGlider

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Great question about S-corp formalities! From what I understand, you absolutely need to maintain proper corporate formalities even if you're just a single-member LLC that elected S-corp taxation. The IRS looks at substance over form, so if you want to be treated as an S-corp for the Augusta Rule, you need to act like one. This means holding regular board meetings (even if it's just you), keeping corporate resolutions, maintaining separate bank accounts, and documenting all major business decisions. The rental arrangement with your residence would need to be approved by a formal board resolution, and the meetings you're renting your home for should be legitimate board meetings or business meetings that advance corporate purposes. Without these formalities, the IRS could argue that despite your tax election, you're not really operating as a separate entity, which could undermine your Augusta Rule position. I'd definitely recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in business entities to make sure you're covering all the bases!

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This discussion has been incredibly enlightening! I'm a tax professional who works with a lot of small business owners, and I see confusion about Section 280A constantly. Let me add a few practical points that might help clarify things further. First, regarding the Forbes article Mary mentioned - financial publications often oversimplify complex tax rules, which can be misleading. The reality is that Section 280A isn't automatically off-limits for LLCs, but the entity's tax classification is absolutely crucial. For those with single-member LLCs that haven't made any tax elections, you're correct that this creates a "renting to yourself" problem. However, there are legitimate business structures that can work. Beyond electing S-corp or C-corp taxation, some clients have success with partnership structures or bringing in additional members to create a true separate entity. One critical point I don't see mentioned yet: the IRS has been increasingly scrutinizing Augusta Rule claims in recent years. They're particularly focused on whether the rental rate is truly at fair market value and whether genuine business activities occurred. I've seen audits where the IRS challenged decorative "business meetings" that were clearly just family gatherings with a thin business purpose. My recommendation is always to be conservative with the rental rate, maintain meticulous documentation, and ensure any meetings have legitimate business outcomes that you can demonstrate. The tax savings aren't worth the audit risk if you can't substantiate everything properly.

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Malik Davis

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Thank you so much for this professional perspective, Heather! This really helps clarify some of the nuances I was struggling with. I'm particularly interested in your mention of partnership structures as an alternative - could you elaborate on how that might work for someone like me who currently has a single-member LLC? Also, when you mention the IRS is increasingly scrutinizing Augusta Rule claims, do you have any insight into what specific red flags they're looking for? I want to make sure I'm not inadvertently creating audit risks if I decide to move forward with this strategy. Your point about being conservative with rental rates resonates with me - I'd rather leave money on the table than deal with an audit. Do you have any rules of thumb for what constitutes a defensible fair market rate when comparable conference facilities might have widely varying prices?

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