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Happened to me last year too! Just want to clarify something - the small earnings between contribution and conversion ($2.15 in your case) ARE actually taxable. You have to pay tax on that tiny bit of growth. But the original $6000 contribution is NOT taxable again as long as you document it properly with Form 8606. If you don't file Form 8606, the IRS has no way to know that you already paid tax on that money, which is why TurboTax is calculating additional tax on the full amount. The form establishes your "basis" (already-taxed amount) in the Traditional IRA.
This is why the backdoor Roth is so annoying! All this paperwork for a simple retirement contribution. Makes me wonder if it's even worth it. I make around the same as OP and I've just been investing in a taxable brokerage instead to avoid all these hoops.
Hey Ava! I went through this exact same nightmare last year - you're definitely not alone in this confusion. The good news is that this is totally fixable and you're NOT being double-taxed once you get Form 8606 filed correctly. Here's what's happening: Your 1099-R is correctly showing the $6,002.15 distribution, but without Form 8606, the IRS computer systems assume that entire amount is taxable income (as if it came from pre-tax/deductible IRA contributions). Form 8606 is what tells the IRS "Hey, this $6,000 was already taxed money, so don't tax it again!" To find Form 8606 in TurboTax, try this path: Go to Federal Taxes ā Deductions & Credits ā Retirement & Investments ā Traditional and Roth IRA Contributions. When you enter your $6,000 Traditional IRA contribution, make sure to select that it's NON-DEDUCTIBLE (since your income is too high to deduct it anyway). This should automatically trigger TurboTax to include Form 8606. If that doesn't work, use the search function in TurboTax and type "8606" - it should pop right up. Once you get this sorted, you'll see your tax bill drop back to normal. Only that tiny $2.15 in earnings should be taxable, not the full $6,000+ that TurboTax is currently calculating.
Been using Chime for my refunds for 3 years now and can confirm I usually get it 1-2 days early. The key thing is that it depends on when the IRS actually processes and releases your refund - the early deposit just means you get it faster once it's sent out. So if there are any delays on the IRS side, you'll still have to wait regardless of which bank you use.
This is super helpful! So basically the early deposit banks just give you a head start once IRS releases the funds, but they can't make IRS process faster. Makes sense why some people see big differences and others don't - it all depends on timing of when IRS actually sends it out š¤
Just wanted to add my experience with these early deposit services! I've used both Chime and Cash App for tax refunds over the past couple years. Chime has been pretty consistent - usually get my refund about 2 days before my friends with traditional banks. Cash App was hit or miss for me though, sometimes early and sometimes not. One thing to keep in mind is that these services might ask for additional verification if it's your first large deposit with them, which could delay things. Also worth noting that the "early" part only kicks in once the IRS actually releases your refund, so if you're stuck in processing hell like some people are this year, the bank won't make a difference until that clears up.
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Thanks for the tip! I'll check it out
Hey Tony! I went through this same thing last year. The whole process took about 3-4 weeks from start to finish, but that included the phone verification and then waiting for them to actually process the refund after verification. Make sure you call early in the morning (like 7-8am) to avoid the worst of the hold times. Also, have your tax return handy - they might ask you specific questions about amounts or forms you filed. Don't worry, it's mostly just a formality these days with all the fraud going around. You'll get your money!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - made a $2,200 estimated payment in January 2025 that I desperately need applied to my 2024 return. Reading through all these responses is really helpful! It sounds like there are multiple approaches that can work: calling the IRS directly (if you can get through), using the callback services mentioned, or even claiming it on your return with an explanation. I'm leaning toward trying the phone route first since several people here had success with that approach. Does anyone know what specific department or phone number works best for payment reassignments? I want to make sure I'm calling the right place and not getting transferred around between departments.
For payment reassignments, you want to call the main IRS taxpayer assistance line at 1-800-829-1040. When you get through the automated system, select the option for "account inquiries" or "payment questions" - this usually gets you to the right department without transfers. I'd recommend having your payment confirmation number, the exact date and amount of the payment, and your SSN ready before you call. Also mention upfront that you need to reassign an estimated tax payment from 2025 to 2024 - this helps the agent understand exactly what you need right away. If you do get transferred, don't hang up! Sometimes they transfer you to a specialist who can handle payment adjustments more efficiently than the general customer service reps.
I went through this exact same situation last year and can confirm that calling the IRS directly is definitely your best bet. The key is timing your call - I found that calling right when they open (7 AM local time) or during lunch hours (around 12-1 PM) tends to have shorter wait times. When I called, I had my payment confirmation number ready and explained that I made an estimated payment for 2025 but needed it applied to my 2024 return instead. The agent was able to make the change immediately while I was on the phone and gave me a confirmation number for the adjustment. One important thing to note: make sure you haven't already filed your 2024 return yet. Once you file, it becomes more complicated to reassign payments. But since you mentioned you're still working on your return, you should be fine. The whole process took maybe 15 minutes once I got connected to an agent.
This is really encouraging to hear! I'm definitely going to try calling first thing in the morning then. Quick question - when you got the confirmation number for the adjustment, did you need to reference that anywhere when you filed your 2024 return? Or does the IRS system automatically update so that when you file, it recognizes the payment as being applied to 2024? I just want to make sure I don't create any confusion or delays when I actually submit my return in a few weeks.
Callum Savage
Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through verification last year and was dreading having to do it again. Filed my return on February 15th this year and... no verification letter! My refund was processed normally within 3 weeks. For context, last year I had to verify after claiming the Child Tax Credit for the first time when my daughter was born. This year, same situation (claiming CTC again), same address, same employer, filed using the same software from the same computer. The only difference was my income went up about 15% due to a raise. It seems like once you're in their system and your filing pattern is consistent, you're less likely to get flagged again. Though based on other comments here, there's definitely no guarantee - the IRS system seems pretty unpredictable! For anyone still waiting on verification, hang in there. I know how stressful it is when you're counting on that refund.
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Diego Ramirez
ā¢Thanks for sharing this! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who made it through without needing to verify again. I'm in almost the exact same situation - had to verify last year when I first claimed education credits, and I've been anxiously waiting to see if I'd get another letter this year. Filed three weeks ago and so far so good, but I keep checking my mailbox nervously. Your experience gives me hope that maybe I'm in the clear! The whole process is just so unpredictable, but it sounds like consistency really does help your chances of avoiding it the second time around.
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Amun-Ra Azra
ā¢That's such a relief to hear! I'm in a similar boat - had to verify last year after claiming the Earned Income Tax Credit for the first time, and I've been stressed about whether it would happen again. Filed about two weeks ago and haven't gotten any letters yet, but like you said, I keep obsessively checking the mailbox. It's good to know that having a consistent filing pattern might actually help. The uncertainty is honestly the worst part - you never know if you're going to get hit with another round of document gathering and weeks of delay. Fingers crossed I have the same smooth experience you did this year!
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Rita Jacobs
I went through verification last year and thankfully didn't have to do it again this year! Filed on February 8th and got my refund within the normal timeframe - no verification letter at all. Last year I had to verify because I started freelancing and had 1099 income for the first time, which apparently triggered their system. This year I had similar freelance income but filed consistently from the same location using the same tax software. The only major change was that my freelance income was higher (which was a good thing!). One thing I learned from reading IRS publications is that they use something called a "Dependent Database" along with their risk algorithms. If your previous year's verification established your identity successfully AND your current filing patterns match, you're much less likely to be flagged again. For anyone currently going through verification - I know it's frustrating, but once you get through it, there's a decent chance you won't have to deal with it again next year if you maintain consistent filing habits. The key seems to be filing from the same location, using similar software, and not having dramatic changes in your tax situation.
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Malik Robinson
ā¢This is really encouraging to hear! I'm a newcomer to this whole verification thing - just got my first letter last week after filing in early February. I claimed the American Opportunity Tax Credit for the first time since I went back to school, and that seems to be what triggered it. Reading everyone's experiences here is helping me understand that this isn't necessarily going to be an annual thing if I can get through it successfully this time. I'm gathering all my documents now and hoping to get it sorted quickly. Did you find the verification process itself pretty straightforward once you had all your paperwork together? I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the different forms they're asking for but your success story gives me hope that next year might be smoother!
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