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Does anyone know if there are different tax rules for classic or collector cars? I sold an old Mustang last year and actually made a profit (bought it in rough shape years ago and restored it). Is that different than a regular car?
Yes! Collector cars can be treated as capital assets, and if you sold it for more than you paid (including restoration costs), you'd report it as a capital gain. If you owned it more than a year, it would be a long-term capital gain which is taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income. Make sure you document all the restoration expenses as they increase your cost basis. So if you bought it for $5k, put $10k into restoration, your basis would be $15k. If you sold for $25k, your taxable gain would be $10k.
One thing to keep in mind is that even though you don't need to report the loss on your personal vehicle sale, if you had any outstanding loan balance when you sold it, that doesn't change the tax treatment. The IRS looks at the economic substance - you bought for $35k, sold for $17.5k, so you had a $17.5k loss regardless of loan status. Also, since you sold through Carvana, they should have provided you with documentation of the sale price. Keep that along with your original purchase paperwork as Kayla mentioned. Even though it's not reportable, having clean records makes everything easier if questions ever come up. The confusion about "profit" vs "cash received" is totally understandable - a lot of people think getting cash means profit, but from a tax perspective it's all about the difference between what you paid and what you received, not your loan balance.
This is really helpful clarification! I think a lot of people get confused about the loan aspect because psychologically it feels like "profit" when you walk away with cash after paying off debt. But you're absolutely right - the tax calculation is purely purchase price minus sale price, regardless of financing. One follow-up question though - does it matter if some of the original $35k purchase price included taxes, fees, or extended warranties? Or is it just the vehicle price itself that counts as the cost basis?
If you entered the info from a paper form, check if you maybe typed the EIN wrong too. I did the exact same thing last year (put Vanguard instead of the actual fund name) and also transposed two digits in the EIN. Got a letter from the IRS about 4 months later. Wasn't a big deal - just had to respond with the correct info.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! This community is amazing. I just checked and thankfully I did enter the correct EIN - it was only the payer name that I messed up. Based on what multiple people have shared here (especially those who actually spoke to IRS agents), it sounds like I'm probably in the clear since the dividend amount and EIN are correct. I'm going to hold off on filing an amended return for now, but I'll definitely be more careful next year. It's reassuring to know that the IRS matching system focuses more on the dollar amounts than the exact payer names. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and advice!
Has anyone tried using TurboTax for this? I'm in the same situation and wondering if it automatically sorts out which SSN goes where.
I used TurboTax last year when my husband got a 1099. It automatically put his SSN on Schedule C and SE, and my SSN (as primary) on Schedules 1 and 2. So yes, it handles this correctly without you having to figure it out.
I went through this exact same confusion last year! The key thing to remember is that when you're married filing jointly, you're essentially filing one combined return. Think of it this way: Schedule C and SE are like "individual worksheets" that need to match the specific person who received the 1099-NEC (so your wife's SSN goes there). But Schedules 1 and 2 are more like "summary sheets" that roll up into your main 1040 form - they should always use the primary taxpayer's SSN regardless of who earned the income being reported. I made the mistake of putting my husband's SSN on Schedule 1 the first time because all the income came from his freelance work, and the IRS sent us a letter asking for clarification. Once I corrected it to use my SSN (as the primary filer), everything processed smoothly. The IRS computer systems are looking for consistency across the return, not necessarily matching the SSN to who earned each specific dollar.
This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the correction process! I'm dealing with this for the first time this year and was second-guessing myself even after reading all the advice here. Did the IRS letter cause any delays in processing your refund, or was it pretty straightforward once you sent back the corrected info? I'm always paranoid about anything that might flag our return for additional review.
Last year I was in the same boat and learned a valuable lesson - always check both your online account AND call if something seems off. The verification letters are sent from a different facility than regular IRS correspondence and often get delayed. When I finally got through to someone, they told me my letter had been returned as undeliverable even though my address was correct in their system. The community here saved me weeks of waiting by suggesting I call directly!
I went through this exact situation earlier this year. My online account showed verification needed but no letter for over a month. I called the verification line at 800-830-5084 and they were able to verify me over the phone using questions about my prior year returns and personal information. The whole process took about 20 minutes once I got through. My refund was released within 2 weeks after that call. Don't wait for the letter - it might be sitting in a mail facility somewhere or got lost. The IRS representatives told me they're having significant delays with verification letters but can absolutely help you verify without it. Just have your prior year tax return handy when you call.
This is really helpful! I'm in a similar situation and have been nervous about calling without having the actual letter in hand. It's reassuring to know they can verify over the phone and that having prior year returns ready is key. Did you have to provide any specific documents or just answer their security questions? I'm worried I might not have everything they need when I call.
@Andrew Pinnock Thanks for sharing your experience! Just to add to this - when I called that same number, they also asked for my Social Security number, filing status, and the exact refund amount I was expecting. They didn t'need any physical documents, just the information from my return. The security questions were pretty standard - things like previous addresses and employers from past returns. Having your AGI from the prior year is especially important since they use that to verify your identity. The wait time was brutal about (45 minutes but) totally worth it once I got through.
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Vera Visnjic
Another tip that worked for me: try calling right after lunch around 1-2 PM. I know everyone says early morning, but I actually had better luck in the early afternoon when maybe some people are taking breaks from calling. Also, make sure you have your Form 8822 (Change of Address form) filled out beforehand - you can download it from the IRS website. Having everything ready speeds up the process once you finally get through to someone. The wait times are brutal but don't give up! ππͺ
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Andre Rousseau
β’Thanks for the afternoon tip! I never thought about calling during lunch time - everyone always says early morning but that makes sense that there might be less competition then. I'll definitely download that Form 8822 ahead of time too. Really appreciate all the practical advice everyone's been sharing here! π
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