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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stress! As someone who works in tax resolution, I can tell you that legitimate tax collection notices almost NEVER come out of nowhere like this. The IRS and state tax agencies have very specific procedures they must follow before engaging third-party collectors. Here are the immediate red flags I see in your situation: 1. You've never received ANY prior notices - this is extremely unusual for legitimate tax debt 2. The collection agency name "Revenue Recovery Solutions" isn't on the IRS list of authorized private collection agencies 3. You consistently file on time and receive refunds Before doing anything else, DO NOT contact the collection agency directly. Instead: - Call your state tax department using the official number from their website (not any number from the letter) - Request your IRS tax transcript online at irs.gov to verify your account status - If you discover this is fraudulent, file a complaint with the FTC, your state attorney general, and the IRS The 15-day deadline they're giving you is a classic high-pressure tactic used by scammers. Legitimate tax agencies provide much longer response periods and multiple notice opportunities. Stay calm and verify everything through official channels first!
Thank you so much for this professional insight! This is exactly what I needed to hear. The fact that you mentioned the collection agency name not being on the IRS authorized list really confirms my suspicions. I was getting so panicked by that 15-day deadline that I almost called them directly. I'm going to follow your advice step by step - starting with calling my state tax department first thing Monday morning using their official website number. Then I'll pull my IRS transcripts to double-check everything. It's such a relief to know that legitimate tax debt doesn't just appear out of nowhere like this without prior notices. If this does turn out to be a scam (which seems very likely now), should I also report it to my local police department, or is filing with the FTC and state AG enough?
Reporting to local police can be helpful too, especially if you live in a smaller jurisdiction where they actively investigate fraud cases. However, the FTC and state AG reports are typically more effective for tax-related scams since they have specialized fraud units that track these patterns. One additional step I'd recommend: if this turns out to be a scam, also report it to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) at treasury.gov/tigta. They specifically handle tax-related fraud impersonation cases and can take action against scammers using official-looking tax documents. Keep detailed records of everything - the original letter, all your communications with agencies, confirmation numbers from your calls, etc. This documentation trail will be valuable if you need to dispute anything later or if law enforcement gets involved. You're handling this exactly the right way by verifying first instead of reacting to their pressure tactics!
I went through something very similar last year and can totally understand the panic you're feeling right now! The good news is that what you're describing has several classic signs of a scam. Here's what really stands out to me: legitimate tax collection follows a very predictable pattern. You would have received multiple notices directly from the IRS or your state tax agency BEFORE any third-party collection agency ever gets involved. The fact that you've always filed on time, gotten refunds, and never received a single prior notice makes this extremely suspicious. A few immediate things to check: - Look up "Revenue Recovery Solutions" on the IRS website's list of authorized private collection agencies - I suspect you won't find them there - Check if the letter has proper debt validation disclosures required by federal law - See if they're demanding immediate payment without offering dispute rights Don't let that 15-day deadline pressure you into doing anything hasty. Real tax agencies give you much more time and multiple opportunities to respond. Take a deep breath, and start by calling your state tax department directly using the number from their official website (NOT any number from that letter) to verify if you actually owe anything. You're being smart by asking questions before taking action. Most people who fall for these scams act quickly out of fear, which is exactly what the scammers are counting on!
This is such helpful advice! I'm definitely going to check that IRS authorized collection agency list first thing. You're absolutely right about the timeline being suspicious - it really doesn't make sense that I would go from never receiving any notices to suddenly being in collections. I'm feeling much calmer now after reading everyone's responses. It's clear that legitimate tax debt doesn't just appear out of nowhere like this. The 15-day pressure deadline was really getting to me, but you're right that real agencies give you much more time to respond. I'm planning to call my state tax department Monday morning using their official website number, then pull my IRS transcripts to verify everything. If this is a scam like it seems to be, I'll make sure to report it to all the agencies people mentioned - FTC, state AG, and TIGTA. Thank you so much for taking the time to walk through those red flags. It really helps to have experienced people confirm what seemed off about this whole situation!
Has anyone used TurboTax or similar software to handle these loss carryovers from closed businesses? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if the mainstream tax software can correctly handle these situations or if it's worth paying a CPA one last time.
I used TaxAct last year for a similar situation. It handled the passive loss deductions well after my LLC closed, but I had to manually enter some information from my prior year's return. The interview questions specifically asked about disposition of passive activities which triggered the right forms.
As someone who recently went through a similar situation with closed business entities, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help one more time to ensure you handle these carryovers correctly. The rules around passive loss disposition and QBI carryforwards can be tricky, and making mistakes could cost you significant tax benefits or trigger an audit. If you're determined to DIY, make sure you have all your prior year tax documents showing the original sources of these losses. You'll need to trace back to the Forms 8582, 8582-CR, and Form 8995-A from previous years to properly calculate what becomes deductible versus what carries forward. The passive losses should indeed become fully deductible in the year of complete disposition, but you'll need to prove the businesses were completely closed and disposed of. Keep documentation like final bank statements showing zero balances, state dissolution certificates, and any asset sale records. For the QBI loss carryforward, unfortunately that's likely going to remain unused unless you generate qualifying business income in the future. There's no mechanism to convert unused QBI losses to ordinary deductions when you permanently exit business activities.
Has anyone used the IRS Identity Protection PIN system? After my sister went through this nightmare last year, our whole family signed up for IP PINs to prevent fraudulent filings. You get a new PIN each year that must be used when filing.
I've been using IP PINs for my whole family for the past three years after someone tried filing a fake return with my info. It's a bit of a hassle remembering to get the new PINs each January, but WAY better than dealing with identity theft. Highly recommend it!
I went through this exact same situation last year with the IND-517-01 reject code, and I totally understand the panic! In my case, it turned out my ex-spouse had claimed our shared dependent without discussing it with me first (we alternate years but he got confused about whose turn it was). Here's what I learned: Don't assume it's identity theft right away - sometimes it's just miscommunication between divorced parents, or like someone mentioned, a FAFSA filing error. But definitely don't ignore it either. My recommendation is to call the IRS Identity Protection line that Zoe mentioned, but also think through anyone else who might have a legitimate reason to claim your dependents - ex-spouses, grandparents who provided significant support, etc. Sometimes a quick phone call can resolve things faster than going through the full identity theft process. The paper filing route is unavoidable at this point, but include a detailed cover letter explaining your situation. The IRS agents reviewing these cases see them all the time and are usually pretty good at sorting out the legitimate vs fraudulent claims. Good luck!
Since you'll be transitioning between different arrangements (pre-LLC temp work, LLC work, and potentially regular employment), make sure you keep extremely detailed records of: 1) Dates worked for each family/client 2) Amount paid and payment method 3) Who controlled the work terms for each position 4) Any expenses you incurred This will be super helpful when tax time comes. I learned this the hard way after working as both a nanny and running a small childcare service from my home. Also, don't forget that even if the family doesn't need to issue a W-2 because you're under the threshold, ALL income still needs to be reported on your tax return, regardless of where it came from.
Which tax software do you recommend for someone in this situation? I'm dealing with something similar and don't know if the basic versions of TurboTax etc can handle the complexities of both household employee income and LLC income.
As someone who navigated a similar situation with my own childcare business, I'd recommend keeping it simple while you're in this transition period. Since you're under the $2400 threshold and it's temporary, you can continue with the current Venmo arrangement, but make sure you're documenting everything properly. Here's what I learned from my experience: 1) Keep detailed records of all payments, dates, and hours worked - this protects both you and the family 2) Even though they won't issue a W-2, you still need to report all income on your personal return (not your LLC return) since you're technically their household employee 3) Consider having a simple written agreement that outlines the temporary nature of the arrangement and expected end date Once you transition to finding regular babysitting clients through your LLC, you can then operate as a true independent contractor with proper business practices. The key is keeping these two income streams separate in your records - the nanny income goes on your personal return, and future LLC babysitting income goes through your business. Don't overthink it for now - just focus on good documentation and proper reporting when tax time comes!
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! Thank you for breaking it down so clearly. I really appreciate the point about keeping the two income streams separate - that makes so much sense. I was getting confused about whether everything should go through my LLC or not. Just to clarify - when you say report the nanny income on my personal return, would that go on Schedule C as miscellaneous income, or is there a different form I should use for household employee income that's under the reporting threshold? Also, do you have any suggestions for a simple written agreement template? I want to make sure we're both protected but don't want to overcomplicate things since it's temporary.
Aurora Lacasse
I see so many of these stories lately! The IRS systems are completely overwhelmed and their error rate seems to be getting worse. One thing to consider if this doesn't get resolved quickly - the Taxpayer Advocate Service can help with these kinds of issues, especially when there's a risk of financial hardship. They're an independent organization within the IRS. Just remember to document EVERYTHING. Every call, letter, the name of every IRS employee you speak with, dates, times - create a paper trail so detailed that nobody can question your due diligence. It might seem excessive, but if this drags on, that documentation will be your best defense.
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Anthony Young
ā¢This is great advice. The Taxpayer Advocate Service helped my parents with a similar issue. It took about 3 months total but they got everything sorted out without having to pay a tax professional. Their website has forms you can fill out to request their help.
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Sean Doyle
I'm glad to see you're making progress on this! Just wanted to add a few more tips that helped me when I dealt with a similar CP2000 issue: 1. When you send your written response, use certified mail with return receipt requested. This gives you proof the IRS received it and when. 2. Keep calling that same IRS number periodically to check on the status. Sometimes these cases get stuck in the system and a follow-up call can move things along. 3. If you haven't already, pull your Social Security earnings record from ssa.gov to verify what employers actually reported wages under your SSN. This can help identify if there are other discrepancies you're not aware of. The fact that they already identified it as a clerical error with someone else's information is a great sign. Usually once they acknowledge the mistake internally, the resolution moves pretty quickly. You should be in the clear soon!
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