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Has anyone used TurboTax Business to handle their final S-corp return when dissolving? I'm trying to decide if I should use software or hire someone for this final filing. Not sure if the standard software handles dissolution scenarios properly.
I used TurboTax Business for my final S-corp return last year. It worked fine for the basic final 1120-S filing and had a section specifically for closing a business. But it didn't help at all with Form 966 or any of the state-specific dissolution documents. I ended up having to figure those out separately.
I went through this exact process last year when I dissolved my S-corp. For Line 10 on Form 966, you need the date when you formally adopted the resolution to dissolve the corporation. Even as a sole shareholder, you should create a simple written resolution stating your decision to dissolve the S-corp and date it. That's the date that goes on Line 10. Here's a basic template I used: "I, [Your Name], as the sole shareholder and director of [Corporation Name], hereby resolve to dissolve this corporation effective [Date]." Sign it, date it, and keep it with your corporate records. One thing to watch out for - make sure you coordinate the timing with your state filing requirements. Some states want you to file dissolution paperwork with them before submitting Form 966 to the IRS, while others are more flexible. Check your state's specific requirements to avoid any complications.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm just starting this process myself and had no idea about the coordination with state requirements. Quick question - when you say "some states want you to file dissolution paperwork with them before submitting Form 966," how do you find out what your specific state requires? Is there a particular office or website I should check? I'm in California if that helps with any specific guidance.
Your instincts are spot-on! Gifts to family members are definitely not deductible on income tax returns. Your mother-in-law might be confusing a couple of different tax concepts here. The annual gift tax exclusion ($17,000 for 2023, $18,000 for 2024) just means she can give that amount to each person without having to file a gift tax return or use up her lifetime estate tax exemption. But this has absolutely nothing to do with income tax deductions. She might be thinking of charitable donations, which ARE deductible if you itemize, or possibly remembering some old tax rule from way back. Sometimes older folks mix up different aspects of tax law or remember how things worked decades ago. I'd suggest gently mentioning that you've heard gift rules can be confusing and maybe she could double-check with a tax professional before filing. Frame it as wanting to make sure she gets the best advice rather than questioning what she said. The last thing you want is for her to claim an improper deduction and then have to deal with IRS penalties or filing an amended return later. You're being really thoughtful looking out for her like this!
This is exactly the kind of gentle approach that works best with family members! I've found that suggesting they "double-check" or "verify" with a professional feels much less confrontational than directly correcting them. It's especially important with tax issues because the consequences of getting it wrong can be pretty serious - penalties, interest, audits, etc. But you're right that preserving family relationships is important too. Another approach that sometimes works is sharing an article or resource about gift tax rules and saying something like "I saw this and thought it was interesting - what do you think?" That way you're not directly challenging their knowledge, just sharing information. The tax professional suggestion is definitely the safest route. Even if it costs a bit for a consultation, it's way better than potentially dealing with IRS problems later!
You're absolutely right to be concerned! Your mother-in-law is definitely mixing up different tax concepts. Gifts to family members are never deductible on income tax returns - that's a really common misconception. The $17,000/$18,000 annual gift exclusion amount just means she won't have to file a gift tax return (Form 709) or use up any of her lifetime estate tax exemption when giving those amounts. But it has zero impact on her income taxes. She might be thinking of charitable donations, which ARE deductible if she itemizes, or possibly remembering some old tax rule from years past. Tax laws have changed quite a bit over the decades, and it's easy to get confused. I'd suggest approaching this delicately - maybe mention that you were reading about gift tax rules and wanted to make sure you understood them correctly. You could frame it as wanting to learn rather than correcting her. Something like "I was reading that gift tax rules can be tricky - should we double-check with a tax professional just to be safe?" The last thing you want is for her to claim an improper deduction and then have to deal with IRS penalties or an amended return later. Better to prevent the problem now with a gentle conversation or quick consultation with a tax pro. You're being a really good family member by looking out for her!
Has your wife's income changed? When both spouses work, your withholding is affected by combined household income. If her income increased significantly, that might explain the higher withholding at your new job. Another thing to check - did you fill out the "multiple jobs" section (Step 2) of your W-4 differently between employers? That can make a huge difference.
This is what happened to me! My withholding jumped when I switched jobs because I checked the "multiple jobs" box on my new W-4 when I hadn't before. Basically tells them to withhold at a higher rate to account for your spouse's income pushing you into a higher bracket.
Another thing to consider - are you being paid on the same schedule? You mentioned both are semi-monthly, but if the pay periods fall differently in the calendar year, it can affect how the withholding calculations work. Also, some payroll systems default to higher withholding rates for new employees until they have a full year of data. This is especially common with ADP - they tend to be more conservative with withholding calculations to avoid underpayment penalties. I'd recommend comparing your actual tax liability using a tax calculator to see if you're going to get a huge refund. If so, you might want to adjust your W-4 to reduce the withholding. The IRS withholding calculator that was mentioned earlier is perfect for this.
This is really helpful context about ADP being more conservative! I didn't realize payroll systems could have different default approaches like that. The timing point is interesting too - my start date was mid-March, so maybe that's affecting the annual calculation somehow? I'm definitely going to use that IRS withholding calculator to see what my actual liability should be. If I'm on track for a massive refund, I'd rather adjust my W-4 now than wait until next April to get my own money back. @Isaiah Thompson - when you mention ADP defaulting to higher rates for new employees, is there typically a timeframe when this adjusts, or do you have to manually request the change?
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like there are several key steps for handling NRA tax treaty benefits in ADP: 1. **Start with Form 8233** - This is essential for claiming treaty benefits, not just the W4 2. **Get official IRS documentation** - Having written confirmation from the IRS about your specific treaty benefits gives you much more credibility with your employer 3. **Find the right department** - Look for a dedicated tax team rather than general HR/payroll 4. **Check for ADP's Treaty Benefits module** - Many companies don't even know this exists 5. **Document everything** - Keep records of all communications and forms submitted 6. **Monitor your paychecks closely** - Initial setups are often incorrect and need adjustment For those struggling to get through to the IRS, the services mentioned like Claimyr seem helpful for actually connecting with specialists who understand international tax treaties. The most important thing seems to be persistence and having the right documentation. Don't let your HR department tell you "they don't know how to handle it" - this is a common situation that they should be equipped to deal with, even if it requires some research on their part. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread is going to help so many people navigate this confusing process!
This is an excellent summary of the key steps! As someone just starting to navigate this process, having everything laid out like this is incredibly helpful. I'm particularly interested in the point about ADP's Treaty Benefits module - I had no idea that was even an option. It sounds like many companies aren't utilizing the tools that are actually available to them, which explains why so many HR departments seem lost when it comes to NRA tax issues. One question for the group - for those who have successfully gone through this process, how long did it typically take from submitting Form 8233 to seeing the correct withholding reflected in your paychecks? I want to set realistic expectations for myself and know when to follow up if things aren't moving along. Also, has anyone dealt with this situation when switching jobs mid-year? I'm wondering if there are any additional complications when you've already had some income withheld incorrectly at a previous employer before getting the treaty benefits set up properly at a new job. Thanks again to everyone who has shared their experiences - this community knowledge is invaluable for those of us trying to figure out these complex tax situations!
Great question about timing and mid-year job switches! From my experience, once you submit Form 8233 and your employer processes it correctly, you should see the adjusted withholding within 1-2 pay periods. However, the initial setup often takes longer because of back-and-forth with payroll to get the ADP settings right. Regarding switching jobs mid-year - this actually happened to me! The key things to know: 1. You'll need to submit a new Form 8233 to your new employer (it's employer-specific) 2. Your previous employer's incorrect withholding can be recovered when you file your tax return 3. Make sure your new employer knows your year-to-date income from all sources when calculating treaty benefits One tip I learned the hard way: if you're switching jobs, try to get a detailed pay stub from your previous employer showing exactly how much federal tax was withheld. This helps your new payroll team calculate the correct remaining treaty exemption for the rest of the year. Also, don't forget that some treaties have annual limits on exemptions, so if you've already used part of your treaty benefit at a previous job, that affects how much your new employer should apply going forward. The IRS documentation route mentioned by others becomes even more valuable in these complex situations!
This is incredibly helpful information about mid-year job switches! I'm actually in a similar situation - started a new job in March after my previous employer completely botched my NRA withholding setup. I had no idea that Form 8233 was employer-specific, so thank you for clarifying that. I was wondering why my new HR department was asking me to fill out all the forms again when I thought it would just transfer over. The point about annual treaty limits is something I hadn't considered either. My treaty with the UK has a $5,000 annual exemption, and I probably used about $1,200 of that at my previous job before I left. So I need to make sure my new employer only applies the remaining $3,800 for the rest of this year. One follow-up question - when you mention getting "detailed pay stub from your previous employer," did you need anything beyond just the YTD federal tax withheld amount? I'm trying to gather all the right documentation before approaching my new payroll team so I don't have to keep going back and forth with missing information. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helping me navigate this complex situation!
@Amina Sy For the detailed pay stub documentation, you ll'want more than just the YTD federal tax withheld amount. I d'recommend getting: 1. **Total gross income YTD** from your previous employer 2. **Federal income tax withheld YTD** this (is the key number 3.) **Any treaty exemption amounts already applied** though (many employers don t'track this properly 4.) **Your final pay stub** showing these totals The gross income amount is important because your new employer needs to know your total annual earnings to properly calculate the remaining treaty benefit. For example, if your treaty exempts the first $5,000 of annual income and you already earned $15,000 at your previous job, your new employer needs to know this to set up withholding correctly. Also, I d'suggest bringing a copy of your treaty s'specific article that applies to your situation. With the UK treaty, make sure you know which article covers your type of income employment (vs. business profits vs. other income since) the exemption rules can vary. One more tip - if your previous employer didn t'apply treaty benefits at all, make sure to clarify this with your new payroll team. They might assume some exemption was already taken when it actually wasn t,'which could lead to under-withholding at your new job.
Amina Bah
Have you considered filing through a local VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) site and then applying for a separate refund advance loan through a financial institution? Ohio has numerous VITA locations that handle self-employment income below certain thresholds, and they file for free. Then you could separately apply for a Tax Refund Express Loan through regional banks like Fifth Third or Huntington that serve Ohio/WV. This separates the filing from the advance, potentially giving you better terms on both. I've seen people get their returns filed more accurately this way while still accessing funds quickly.
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Oliver Becker
β’This is brilliant advice! I didn't know you could separate these services. Going to look into VITA locations near me right now.
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Natasha Petrova
β’Do VITA sites handle Schedule C income though? I thought they had income limits and restrictions on business returns.
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Paolo Bianchi
I'm in a similar situation and found that TaxAct's Refund Advance program works well for Ohio residents with mixed income. They approved my advance within 24 hours even with Schedule C income, though I had to upload bank statements showing my business deposits. The key was having organized quarterly payment records to the IRS - they seem to use that as verification that your self-employment income is legitimate. One thing to watch out for: make sure you calculate your expected refund accurately because if your actual refund is less than the advance amount, you'll owe the difference immediately. Also, most providers now require you to receive your refund through their bank products, so factor that into your decision. For transportation issues, some tax prep offices offer mobile services or will work with you over video calls for the verification process. Worth asking about if you find a provider you like but can't physically visit.
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Gemma Andrews
β’This is really helpful! I'm curious about the bank statements requirement - how many months did they want to see? And when you mention quarterly payment records, do you mean the 1040ES vouchers or actual bank records showing the payments went through? I'm trying to get all my documentation ready before I start the application process.
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