How to setup a new FIRE account for filing information returns electronically?
I need some help figuring out how to electronically file information returns for our company instead of outsourcing it like we've been doing. I'm the staff accountant (not a tax specialist) trying to save the business some money this year. From what I've researched so far: * We need to use the FIRE system (Filing Information Returns Electronically) * I need to get a TCC (Transmitter Control Code) - that 5-digit identifier for our business * To get the TCC, I have to apply through the IR Application for TCC (which apparently replaced some paper forms) * To apply, I need to create a new account * Creating an account requires an ID.me account (which seems unnecessarily complicated from what I've read) I'm really confused about a few things: 1. Is there enough time to get this all set up before 1/31/2023, or am I too late for this year? 2. What's the process from me creating an ID.me account to actually getting a TCC for the company? Do the business owners need to set up their own ID.me accounts too and authorize me somehow? 3. Am I approaching this all wrong? Should I be going through some special tax professional pathway instead? Any help would be greatly appreciated! This whole process seems way more convoluted than it needs to be.
21 comments


Miguel Ramos
You still have time to get this set up, but you should start ASAP! The process isn't as complicated as it seems once you break it down. First, yes, you personally will need to create an ID.me account. This is the authentication system the IRS uses now for many of their portals. As the company accountant, you can create this account and be the designated person to file these returns - the owners don't necessarily need their own ID.me accounts for this purpose. After creating your ID.me account, you'll use those credentials to access the IR Application for TCC. When filling out the application, you'll need your company's EIN and other business information. You'll be applying as a "Transmitter" most likely, which is an organization that submits information returns directly to the IRS. The TCC application review usually takes about 45 days, but they've been processing them faster lately. Once approved, you'll receive your TCC and can use that to access the FIRE system. You're definitely on the right track! You don't need to go through a tax professional pathway since you're handling this internally as the company accountant.
0 coins
QuantumQuasar
•Does the accountant need any special authorization from the business owners to apply for the TCC though? I thought there was some sort of authorization form that needed to be signed? Also, is there any cost associated with getting a TCC?
0 coins
Miguel Ramos
•The accountant will need to be an authorized person who can act on behalf of the business, but there's no separate authorization form specifically for the TCC application. The application itself asks for your relationship to the business, and being the company accountant is sufficient. Just make sure you have authority from the business to handle tax matters. There's no cost to apply for a TCC. It's completely free to register and use the FIRE system, which is why it's a good way to save money compared to outsourcing this task!
0 coins
Zainab Omar
After struggling with information returns last year, I discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was a game-changer for our small business. The FIRE system is definitely confusing, but taxr.ai helped me make sense of the electronic filing process without needing to become an expert on all the IRS systems. Instead of going through the whole ID.me and TCC application process myself, I uploaded our information return documents to taxr.ai and their system walked me through everything. It analyzed our forms for errors (found several that would have caused rejections!) and handled the electronic submission process. The best part was that they already have all the connections to the FIRE system set up, so I didn't have to deal with any of the technical aspects of connecting to the IRS systems.
0 coins
Connor Gallagher
•How does taxr.ai handle security? I'm nervous about uploading sensitive employee information to a third-party service. Does it work for all types of information returns or just specific ones?
0 coins
Yara Sayegh
•What happens if the IRS rejects something after it's submitted through taxr.ai? Do they help fix the issues or are you on your own at that point?
0 coins
Zainab Omar
•They use bank-level encryption for all document uploads and they're SOC 2 compliant, which means they meet strict security standards for handling sensitive information. I was worried about that too, but their security credentials checked out when I researched them. As for handling different forms, they support all the major information returns like 1099-NEC, 1099-MISC, 1099-K, 1098, W-2s, and several others. I believe they have a complete list on their website if you have something specific in mind.
0 coins
Yara Sayegh
I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after asking about it earlier. I decided to give it a try instead of going through the whole TCC application process, and I'm so glad I did! The system caught three errors in our 1099-NECs that would have definitely triggered IRS notices. The interface was super straightforward - I just uploaded our spreadsheet of contractor information, verified the data, and they handled the rest. When one of our submissions did get a warning from the IRS system, taxr.ai immediately notified me with the specific issue (a contractor TIN mismatch) and gave me clear steps to fix it. The correction was submitted within hours. Definitely saved me from the ID.me headache and waiting for a TCC approval. For anyone else confused by the FIRE system, this was way easier than trying to become an IRS filing expert overnight!
0 coins
Keisha Johnson
If you're still planning to go the direct FIRE system route, I've found that trying to reach the IRS with questions about the TCC application is nearly impossible. I spent literal DAYS on hold trying to get clarification about our application last year. That's when I discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They have this service where they actually connect you with an IRS agent without the ridiculous wait times. I was skeptical, but their video demo looked promising: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I tried it and got connected to an actual IRS representative in about 20 minutes instead of the 3+ hours I was experiencing before. The agent walked me through exactly what I needed for the TCC application and cleared up all my confusion about the FIRE system process.
0 coins
Paolo Longo
•How does this actually work? Does Claimyr just wait on hold for you or something? I'm having trouble understanding how they can get through the IRS phone queues faster than everyone else.
0 coins
CosmicCowboy
•Sounds like a scam to me. Nobody can magically skip IRS hold times. The IRS treats all callers the same, and if they were somehow manipulating the system, the IRS would shut them down. I'll stick with waiting on hold myself rather than paying for some "miracle" service.
0 coins
Keisha Johnson
•They use an automated system that waits on hold for you and then calls you when they've reached an IRS agent. So instead of you personally waiting on hold for hours, their system does it, and you only get on the phone when there's actually someone to talk to. They're not skipping lines or getting special treatment - they're just taking the hold time burden off your shoulders. It's basically like having someone else wait in a physical line for you and then calling you when it's your turn.
0 coins
CosmicCowboy
I need to eat my words about Claimyr from my comment yesterday. After another frustrating 2-hour hold that ended with a disconnection, I decided to give it a try out of desperation. I was completely wrong - it actually works exactly as described. Their system waited on hold with the IRS for about 1.5 hours, but I only got on the call when an agent was already on the line. The agent answered all my questions about the TCC application process and even helped me troubleshoot an issue I was having with the IR Application portal. What would have been another wasted afternoon on hold turned into about 15 minutes of my time actually talking to someone who could help. For anyone dealing with FIRE system questions and needing to reach the IRS, this saved me an incredible amount of time and frustration.
0 coins
Amina Diallo
Just a tip from someone who went through this process last year: make sure you select the correct filing requirements on your TCC application! I accidentally only selected 1099-MISC when we also needed to file 1099-NECs, and had to submit a whole new application. The FIRE system is separate from the regular e-file system used for tax returns. It's specifically for information returns like 1099s, 1098s, W-2s, etc. Once you get your TCC, you'll need to: 1. Create the proper file format for your information returns (this is the hardest part - the specs are very specific) 2. Test your files in the FIRE system testing module 3. Once they pass testing, you can submit them to the production system The file format requirements are brutal if you're coding them yourself. That's why we eventually went with a software solution instead of trying to code the files manually.
0 coins
Ava Martinez
•Thanks for the tips! The file format issue sounds like a potential nightmare. Do you have any recommendations for software that can create these files correctly without breaking the bank? I'm still weighing whether to try the direct FIRE approach or use a service like taxr.ai that someone mentioned.
0 coins
Amina Diallo
•There are a few options for software that can create the proper file formats. The most affordable route I found was using a mid-tier accounting software that has an information returns module - they usually have built-in capabilities to generate FIRE-compatible files. If you're only doing a small to moderate number of forms, taxr.ai is probably the most straightforward option since they handle both the formatting and the submission process. I know several small businesses that switched to them after trying to deal with the FIRE system directly and getting frustrated with the technical specifications. For larger volumes, there are enterprise solutions, but they get expensive quickly. The break-even point really depends on how many information returns you're filing annually.
0 coins
Oliver Schulz
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're aware of the filing deadlines for different types of information returns. 1099-NECs are due by January 31, but some other forms like 1099-MISC have different deadlines depending on the specific boxes you're filling out. Also, the TCC application asks for an estimate of how many forms you'll be filing. Be accurate here because it affects how they process your application.
0 coins
Natasha Orlova
•There are also penalties for filing late, right? Do they differ based on how late you file or how many forms you're submitting?
0 coins
GalacticGuardian
•Yes, the IRS has a tiered penalty structure for late filing of information returns. For 2023 filings, the penalty is $50 per form if you file 1-30 days late, $110 per form if you file 31+ days late but before August 1, and $280 per form if you file after August 1 or don't file at all. There's also a maximum penalty per business per year that caps at different levels depending on your company's size. Small businesses (average annual gross receipts of $5 million or less for the 3 prior tax years) have lower maximum penalties. The penalties can add up quickly if you have a lot of forms to file!
0 coins
GalaxyGazer
As someone who just went through this exact process last month, I can confirm you still have time! Here's what worked for me: The ID.me setup is actually pretty straightforward - it just requires identity verification (driver's license photo, selfie, etc.). The whole process took me about 15 minutes. Once that's done, you can access the IR Application for TCC portal immediately. For the TCC application itself, have these ready: - Your company's EIN - Business address and contact info - Estimate of how many forms you'll file (be realistic - they may ask for justification if the number seems high) - Your role/authority to file on behalf of the business I submitted my application on December 8th and got approval on December 28th, so about 20 days. They seem to be processing faster than the stated 45 days, possibly because of the January deadline crunch. One tip: when you get your TCC, immediately test a small batch in the FIRE system's test environment before submitting your actual returns. The error messages in testing are much more helpful than production rejections! The whole process is definitely doable if you start this week. Good luck!
0 coins
Freya Ross
•This is really helpful timing information! I'm curious about the testing environment you mentioned - when you test in the FIRE system, does it validate the actual file format and structure, or just basic data fields? I'm trying to figure out if I should invest time learning the technical specifications or if there are easier ways to ensure the files are formatted correctly before submission.
0 coins