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Henry Delgado

Filing a 1065 form for an LLC that hasn't done anything yet - required?

I set up an LLC about two years ago with a couple partners, but we haven't actually used it for any business activity until January 3rd, 2025. I finally got around to getting our EIN number because we're planning to actually do business this year, and then out of nowhere I received an email saying we need to file a Form 1065. I'm pretty confused about a few things: 1. I tried to file electronically through the IRS website but it's giving me errors and won't let me complete it. Has anyone successfully done this online? 2. Do all my partners need to file the 1065 too? There are 3 of us total, with one partner having about 51% ownership while the rest of us have smaller percentages. 3. Do we even need to file this form at all since the LLC hasn't had any activity until literally a few days ago? Any help would be super appreciated. This is my first time dealing with business taxes and I'm already stressed about it!

Olivia Kay

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You have some good questions here about Form 1065 requirements for your LLC. Let me help clarify: 1. The IRS doesn't actually have a direct e-filing system for Form 1065 on their website. You'll need to use tax preparation software like TurboTax Business, H&R Block Business, or an authorized e-file provider. Alternatively, you can file by mail using the paper form. 2. The partnership itself files one Form 1065, not each individual partner. However, the 1065 will generate Schedule K-1 forms that get distributed to each partner. Each partner then reports their share of income/losses on their personal tax returns using the information from their K-1. 3. This is important: Even if your LLC had no activity until January 2025, you're still required to file Form 1065 for any tax year after you obtained your EIN if the LLC exists as a partnership. You would file what's called a "zero return" showing no income or expenses.

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Henry Delgado

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I had no idea we couldn't file directly on the IRS site - that explains the errors I was getting. So if we just got our EIN this January (2025), does that mean we don't need to file anything for previous years when the LLC existed but had no EIN and no activity?

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Olivia Kay

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The timing of when you got your EIN doesn't actually determine your filing obligation. What matters is when your LLC was legally formed and whether it was set up as a partnership (multiple owners). If your LLC was legally formed two years ago as a partnership, you technically should have filed Form 1065 returns for those previous years, even with zero activity and no EIN. The filing requirement begins when the partnership is legally formed, not when it obtains an EIN or begins conducting business.

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Joshua Hellan

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Jibriel Kohn

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Does it actually help with completing the forms? I'm having issues understanding which boxes to fill out for a partnership that had zero business. Some of the questions on the 1065 seem to apply regardless of activity.

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. Can it handle more complex situations like when one partner contributed assets but no business was conducted? And did it help with any state filings you might have needed to do alongside the federal?

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Joshua Hellan

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It does help with completing the forms. The system identifies which sections are required even for zero activity businesses. For example, you still need to complete the partner information sections and certain questions about accounting methods, even if you had no income. For complex situations like contributed assets without business operations, the tool was actually really helpful. It has specific guidance for capital contributions during dormant periods and explains how to report these on both the 1065 and the partners' K-1s. It also walks you through state filing requirements based on where your LLC is registered and where partners live, which saved us from missing some state-specific requirements.

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Jibriel Kohn

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Mia Green

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One thing nobody mentioned - if your LLC is registered in certain states, you might have STATE filing requirements even if you don't have federal requirements. I learned this the hard way when California hit us with a $800 minimum franchise tax for each year our LLC existed, even though we had zero activity. Check your state's requirements ASAP! Some states have "minimum taxes" regardless of whether you did business.

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Henry Delgado

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Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about state requirements. We're registered in Texas - does anyone know if they have similar minimum taxes or filing requirements for inactive LLCs?

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Mia Green

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Texas is actually one of the better states for this situation. They don't have an income tax, so you won't face the same issues as California LLC owners. However, Texas does have a franchise tax that applies to LLCs. The good news is that Texas has a "no tax due threshold" - if your LLC's revenue is below a certain amount (currently $1,230,000), you can file a "No Tax Due Report" instead of paying franchise tax. For completely inactive LLCs with zero revenue, you'd qualify for this exemption. But you still need to FILE the report, even to claim the exemption.

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Emma Bianchi

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Just wanted to share that I went through this exact same thing last year. Filed a "final" 1065 for our LLC that never did anything, and then started a new LLC when we actually launched our business. It was much simpler than dealing with years of back filings and explaining the gap in activity. Might be worth considering if your LLC is very new.

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Is that actually allowed? Can you just dissolve an LLC and form a new one to avoid filing requirements for the dormant years?

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Anna Stewart

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I'm dealing with a similar situation with my LLC that's been dormant for about 18 months. One thing I learned from my CPA is that you should definitely check if your state requires you to file an annual report or pay franchise fees even during inactive periods. Also, regarding the e-filing issue you mentioned - I found that some of the free tax software options like FreeTaxUSA actually do support Form 1065 filing, which might be easier than the paid alternatives if your situation is straightforward (no income, no deductions, just a basic zero return). The key thing my accountant emphasized is don't ignore the filing requirements just because you had no activity. The IRS treats "no response" very differently from "filed a zero return," and the penalties can add up quickly even if you owed no tax.

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PixelPioneer

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This is really helpful advice about FreeTaxUSA supporting Form 1065! I've been dreading having to pay for expensive tax software just to file a zero return. Your point about the IRS treating "no response" differently from "filed a zero return" really hits home - I've been procrastinating on this partly because I thought since we had no activity, maybe it didn't matter. But it sounds like filing something is always better than filing nothing, even if it's just to report zero income. Did your CPA mention anything about penalty relief options for late filings when the LLC had no activity? I'm worried I might already be past some deadlines for previous years.

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I went through this exact same situation with my consulting LLC last year! Here's what I learned from working with a tax professional: For your specific questions: 1. The IRS website doesn't support direct e-filing of Form 1065 - you need third-party software or mail it in. I ended up using FreeTaxUSA (as mentioned by Anna) and it worked great for our zero-activity return. 2. Only the LLC files the 1065, not individual partners. The form generates K-1s for each partner showing their share (even if it's zero). Each partner reports their K-1 info on their personal returns. 3. Yes, you still need to file even with no activity. The filing requirement starts when the LLC is legally formed as a partnership, not when you get an EIN or start business operations. One thing that saved me a lot of stress: there's actually a "reasonable cause" exception for late filing penalties when you can show the LLC had no activity and no income. You'll need to attach a statement explaining the situation when you file. Don't let the fear of penalties stop you from getting compliant - the IRS is often willing to work with taxpayers who make good faith efforts to catch up on dormant entity filings. Also definitely check your state requirements! Some states are much more forgiving than others for inactive LLCs.

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Kendrick Webb

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive breakdown! This gives me a lot more confidence about tackling this situation. The "reasonable cause" exception you mentioned is exactly what I was hoping existed - it makes sense that the IRS would have provisions for situations like ours where there genuinely was no business activity. A couple follow-up questions based on your experience: 1. When you attached the statement explaining the no-activity situation, did you need to provide any specific documentation (like copies of bank statements showing zero transactions) or was a simple written explanation sufficient? 2. For the FreeTaxUSA filing - did it walk you through what to put in each section for a zero return, or did you need to figure out which fields to complete on your own? I'm feeling much better about getting this handled properly rather than continuing to put it off. Your point about the IRS being willing to work with people making good faith efforts is reassuring.

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