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For your $1,350 donation, here's what you need to know: 1. Keep the receipt in your records (don't send it in) 2. You'll need to fill out Form 8283 Section A (since it's over $500 but under $5,000) 3. Make sure your receipt has: - Name of the charity - Date of donation - Description of items - Statement that you received no goods/services in return 4. If your receipt is missing any information, go back to the charity and ask for a complete one I volunteer as a tax preparer and this trips up a lot of people. The biggest mistake is not getting a proper receipt at the time of donation.
What about when a charity just gives you one of those blank receipts where they write the date but YOU fill in the value? Is that legit enough for the IRS?
That's a good question. Those pre-printed receipts where you fill in the value yourself are acceptable as long as the charity signs or stamps it with their information and includes (or pre-prints) the statement about goods and services. However, for donations over $250, it's better to get a more detailed acknowledgment from the charity. Some charities will mail you a more formal thank-you letter later if you provide your contact information. You can also ask them for a more detailed receipt at the time of donation. The key is having something from the charity that acknowledges what you donated, when you donated it, and includes that no-goods-or-services statement.
Don't forget that you can only claim these deductions if you itemize on Schedule A! If you take the standard deduction (which is $13,850 for single filers in 2023), you can't also claim your donations. A lot of people miss this and try to claim both.
Wait, so if I donated like $2000 worth of stuff but my standard deduction is higher, I should just take the standard deduction and forget about the donation for tax purposes?
Exactly! You need to add up ALL your itemized deductions (charitable donations, state and local taxes, mortgage interest, medical expenses over the threshold, etc.) and see if the total exceeds your standard deduction. If your total itemized deductions are less than $13,850 (for single filers), then yes, you should take the standard deduction and you won't get any tax benefit from the charitable donations. It's one of the most common misconceptions - people think they can take the standard deduction AND claim their donations, but it's either/or, not both.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're actually charging significantly below FMV if you're treating this as a "not for profit" rental. IRS might question if you're only $50-100 below market rates. In my experience, they generally look for rentals that are at least 20% below market to qualify for the "not for profit" classification. If you're too close to market rates, they might consider it a regular rental activity where different rules apply. Also, keep good records of comparable rentals in your area to support your FMV determination in case of questions.
Is there an actual percentage cutoff in the tax code? I've always heard different numbers - some say 10% below market, others say 30%. I'm renting to my son at about 15% below market and reporting it as a normal rental with all deductions. Should I be worried?
There's no specific percentage cutoff written in the tax code. The IRS evaluates this on a case-by-case basis. From what I've seen in practice and from discussions with tax professionals, anything less than 20% below market might be questioned, but it really depends on your specific situation and documentation. At 15% below market, you're in a bit of a gray area. If you're treating it as a normal rental and taking all deductions including potential losses, you might want to increase your documentation of why that rate is reasonable - perhaps there are conditions or limitations that justify the slightly lower rate beyond just the family relationship.
I just want to clarify one thing that might be confusing people. Even if you can't deduct losses from a below-FMV rental, you can still potentially deduct expenses that OFFSET the rental income you receive (up to that amount). So if you collect $11,400 in rent annually, you can deduct up to $11,400 in eligible expenses (in that specific order others mentioned - mortgage interest, property taxes, then insurance, etc). This might mean you have zero taxable rental income after deductions, but you can't create a rental loss to offset other income.
So does that mean if my expenses are higher than the rent collected, I'm better off just treating it as a personal residence I'm sharing rather than a rental? I'm charging my parents $700/month for a place that would normally go for $1200.
That's a really good question, Andre! If your expenses significantly exceed the rent you're collecting, you might actually be in a tricky spot tax-wise. With a not-for-profit rental, you can only deduct up to the rental income received - so if you're collecting $8,400/year ($700x12) but have $15,000+ in mortgage interest, taxes, insurance, etc., you can only deduct $8,400 worth of those expenses. However, you can't just "not report" rental income to avoid this limitation. If you're receiving regular payments from your parents for housing, the IRS would likely consider that rental income regardless of how you classify it personally. You might want to consider whether the rental rate truly reflects the "not for profit" classification, or if you should adjust the arrangement. Some people in similar situations charge a higher "market-based" rent but then gift money back to family members (within annual gift limits) to help with their finances. This can sometimes provide better tax treatment, but you'd want to run the numbers and possibly consult a tax pro for your specific situation.
Has anyone tried just increasing withholding on their W-2 job to cover the interest income? Seems simpler than backup withholding or quarterly payments.
I do this! I adjusted my W-4 to have an additional $50 withheld from each biweekly paycheck which covers the taxes on about $25k in my high-yield savings. Way easier than messing with backup withholding or quarterly payments.
I've been dealing with this same issue! With rates this high, the interest income really adds up fast. I ended up going with voluntary backup withholding last year and it worked out well for me. The 24% rate did mean I got a decent refund since my actual tax rate is lower, but honestly the peace of mind was worth it. No more scrambling to come up with a big tax payment in April. My bank (Chase) made it really easy - just had to fill out a simple form requesting voluntary backup withholding. One thing to keep in mind is that if you have multiple accounts at different banks, you'll need to set it up with each one separately. Also, make sure to keep good records of how much was withheld throughout the year since you'll need that info when filing your return. The quarterly payment route that others mentioned is probably more tax-efficient, but backup withholding is definitely the "set it and forget it" approach if you prefer simplicity over optimization.
Thanks for sharing your experience with Chase! I'm curious - did you notice any delay between when you submitted the form and when they actually started withholding? I'm with a smaller credit union and wondering if the process might be different or take longer to implement than with a big bank like Chase. Also, when you say "keep good records" - are you talking about just saving the 1099-INT forms they send at year end, or do you need to track something else throughout the year?
Does anyone know how to handle Box 19 and 20 if you work remotely? My W-2 shows a local tax for a city I never worked in (just where my company is based). I'm using H&R Block software and it's confusing me.
This is actually a common issue with remote work! Some cities (like Philadelphia, NYC, and Cincinnati) have special rules about taxing employees who work for companies based in their jurisdictions, even if you work remotely. You might be liable for that tax, BUT many cities changed their rules during/after COVID. You should check that specific city's tax department website for their remote work policies.
Great question about Boxes 15-20! These can definitely be confusing for first-time filers. Just to add a few more tips to what others have shared: 1. **Double-check the math** - Make sure Box 16 (state wages) isn't higher than your total wages from Box 1. Sometimes there are legitimate reasons for differences (like state-specific deductions), but it's worth verifying. 2. **Save copies of everything** - Keep your W-2 and any state returns you file. If you have discrepancies later, you'll need these documents. 3. **TurboTax tip** - When you get to the state tax section, TurboTax will automatically import the Box 15-20 info if you're using their W-2 import feature. Just make sure to review what it imports since OCR sometimes makes mistakes. 4. **Reciprocity agreements** - Some neighboring states have agreements where you only pay tax to your resident state even if you work across state lines. Worth checking if this applies to your situation. Don't stress too much - the software will guide you through most of it, and the IRS/state agencies are generally understanding with honest mistakes on first-time returns. Good luck with your filing!
This is really helpful advice! I'm also a first-time filer and didn't know about reciprocity agreements - that could potentially save me from having to file in multiple states. Do you know where I can find a list of which states have these agreements? I'm working in Pennsylvania but live in Delaware, so I'm hoping there might be something in place between those two states.
Eve Freeman
Consider exploring a Section 1202 qualified small business stock (QSBS) analysis as well. If your S Corp qualifies and your father has held his shares for at least 5 years, he might be eligible for significant capital gains exclusion (up to $10 million or 10x basis, whichever is greater). Also worth discussing with your advisors is the timing of any conversion strategies. Some families benefit from converting to a C Corp temporarily before the sale to take advantage of QSBS benefits, then converting back afterward, though this requires careful planning around the built-in gains tax rules. Another angle to explore is whether your father might benefit from charitable remainder trust (CRT) strategies if he has philanthropic goals. This could allow him to defer capital gains while providing income over time and eventual charitable benefits. The key is running the numbers on multiple scenarios before committing to any single approach. Each family's situation is unique based on the business value, personal tax situations, and long-term goals.
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Isabella Tucker
ā¢This is really helpful - I hadn't considered QSBS at all. Our S Corp was formed in 2018 and my father has been the majority owner since then, so we'd meet the 5-year holding requirement. The business is definitely under the $50M gross assets threshold for QSBS qualification. The C Corp conversion strategy sounds intriguing but also complex. Would we need to maintain C Corp status for any minimum period to qualify for QSBS treatment? And how do the built-in gains tax rules work if we convert back to S Corp afterward? Also wondering about the CRT approach - my father has mentioned wanting to leave something to charity eventually. Could this potentially work alongside a partial sale to us, or would it need to be structured as an either/or situation?
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Ella Knight
ā¢Great questions about QSBS and conversion strategies! For C Corp conversion, there's no minimum holding period once you convert - the 5-year clock starts from when your father originally acquired his S Corp shares (2018 in your case), not from the conversion date. However, the built-in gains tax is crucial to consider. If you convert back to S Corp status within 5 years of the C Corp conversion, any built-in gains from the conversion date would be subject to corporate-level tax when recognized. This could significantly impact the economics, so you'd want to model whether the QSBS benefits outweigh the potential built-in gains tax. For the CRT approach, it can definitely work alongside a partial sale structure. Your father could contribute some shares to a CRT (getting the income stream and charitable deduction) while selling other shares directly to you and your sister. This hybrid approach lets him diversify his exit strategy while potentially optimizing the overall tax outcome. The key is having your CPA run projections on all these scenarios with your actual numbers. The optimal structure really depends on the business valuation, your father's other income sources, and how much liquidity you need from the transition.
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Ella Cofer
One strategy worth exploring that combines several approaches mentioned here is a "sale to grantor trust" structure. Your father could sell his shares to an intentionally defective grantor trust (IDGT) that you and your sister establish as beneficiaries. The benefits: your father receives installment payments (helping with his cash flow), the growth in business value happens outside his estate, and he pays the income taxes on the trust's earnings (which is actually a benefit since it further reduces his estate without using gift tax exemptions). Meanwhile, you and your sister effectively own the business through the trust structure. This works particularly well when combined with a small gift component - your father could gift a portion of shares to the trust and sell the remainder, reducing the total purchase price you'd need to finance. The trust can use business distributions to make the installment payments to your father, and since he's paying the trust's taxes as the grantor, more cash stays in the trust to service the debt. This is definitely complex and requires experienced estate planning counsel, but for family business transitions it can be incredibly tax-efficient compared to direct purchase arrangements.
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Sophie Duck
ā¢The grantor trust strategy sounds very sophisticated, but I'm wondering about the practical complexity for a family service business. How difficult is it to maintain compliance with the grantor trust rules over time? And if my father is paying taxes on the trust's income, doesn't that potentially create cash flow issues for him, especially if the business has strong years where distributions are high? Also, with the installment payments coming from business distributions, how do you handle years where the business cash flow might be lower and the trust can't make the full scheduled payment to my father? Is there typically flexibility built into these arrangements, or could that jeopardize the whole structure?
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