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I'm confused why people are suggesting such complicated solutions. If your income is below the Roth IRA contribution limits as you mentioned, why not just contribute directly to your Roth IRAs instead of doing backdoor conversions?
Your tax professional seems to be mixing up several different concepts here, which is unfortunately pretty common with backdoor Roth strategies. Let me help clarify what's actually happening: 1. **You don't need to withdraw anything from your Roth IRAs.** The money is already there legally - the issue is just how much tax you owed on the conversions. 2. **The pro-rata rule means you owe taxes on most of your conversions.** With $250k in pre-tax Traditional IRA money and only small non-deductible contributions, roughly 97% of each conversion was taxable income that should have been reported on your tax returns. 3. **Your spouse's situation is completely separate.** If she doesn't have pre-tax Traditional IRA balances, her backdoor Roth conversions work normally with minimal tax impact. 4. **Maxing out 401k/403b has nothing to do with this.** Your tax guy is confusing workplace retirement plan limits with IRA strategies. 5. **Income limits don't prevent backdoor conversions.** They only affect direct Roth contributions. The whole point of backdoor Roth is to get around those limits. For going forward, consider asking your current employer if their 401k accepts reverse rollovers. Moving your Traditional IRA balance back into a workplace plan would eliminate the pro-rata problem for future conversions. You'll also need to make sure Form 8606 was filed correctly for all years to track your non-deductible contributions. Might be worth getting a second opinion from a CPA who specializes in retirement planning - these strategies require specific expertise that not all tax professionals have.
This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I was looking for! I'm definitely going to look into the reverse rollover option with my current employer's 401k. One question though - if I do move my Traditional IRA balance back into my 401k, does that fix the pro-rata issue retroactively for the conversions I already did in 2024 and 2025, or would it only help going forward? And do I need to move ALL of my Traditional IRA money, or can I leave some and still improve the pro-rata calculation?
Unfortunately, the reverse rollover strategy only helps going forward - it doesn't retroactively fix the tax consequences of conversions you've already completed. For your 2024 and 2025 conversions, you'll still owe taxes based on the pro-rata calculation from those respective years. However, you don't need to move ALL your Traditional IRA money to improve the situation. The pro-rata rule is based on your IRA balances as of December 31st of the conversion year. So if you move most (or all) of your Traditional IRA balance into your 401k before doing future conversions, those future conversions will have a much better tax treatment. For example, if you moved $240k of your $250k Traditional IRA into your 401k and left $10k, then did a $7k backdoor Roth conversion, only about 59% of that conversion would be taxable instead of 97%. Move it all, and future conversions would be nearly tax-free as intended. Just make sure your 401k plan allows these reverse rollovers and check if there are any fees involved. Some plans are picky about accepting rollovers from IRAs.
Can anyone recommend decent investment options for inherited IRAs? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I should stick with target date funds or try something different since I have this 10-year timeframe.
Since you have a defined 10-year period, target date funds might not be ideal as they're designed for retirement dates. Instead, consider a balanced portfolio matching your risk tolerance. For a 10-year timeframe, maybe 60-70% stocks and 30-40% bonds could work. Just remember that as you get closer to the 10-year deadline, you might want to get more conservative to avoid market drops right when you need to withdraw everything.
This is a complex situation, but you're asking the right questions! One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given is to consider the timing of your withdrawals strategically. Since you mentioned you have a small business and max out your SEP IRA, you likely have variable income year to year. Consider taking larger distributions from the inherited Traditional IRA in years when your business income is lower - this could keep you in a lower tax bracket overall. Also, don't forget about state taxes! Depending on where you live, state tax rates on IRA distributions can vary significantly. Some states don't tax retirement account withdrawals at all, while others treat them as regular income. For the brokerage account, one more tip: if you're planning to hold investments long-term, consider tax-loss harvesting opportunities. You can sell losing positions to offset gains elsewhere, which can be particularly useful if you're taking large distributions from the Traditional IRA that are pushing up your tax bracket. The 10-year rule gives you flexibility - you don't have to take equal amounts each year. Work with a tax professional to model different withdrawal scenarios based on your projected income over the next decade.
This is really helpful advice about timing withdrawals strategically! I hadn't considered how variable business income could affect the optimal withdrawal strategy. Quick question - when you mention tax-loss harvesting, does that apply to investments held within the inherited IRAs themselves, or only to the brokerage account? I'm assuming it's only the brokerage since IRA investments are tax-sheltered anyway, but want to make sure I understand correctly. Also, do you know if there are any restrictions on what types of investments I can hold in inherited IRAs? I inherited some individual stocks that I'm not sure I want to keep long-term.
Had the same exact problem yesterday! What finally worked for me was disabling all browser extensions (especially ad blockers) and trying in incognito/private mode. Also try switching your internet connection if possible - sometimes it's a network routing issue to their servers. Good luck!
I had this exact same issue last week! What worked for me was logging out completely, clearing all TurboTax cookies (not just cache), and then logging back in. Also try using a different device if you have one available - sometimes it's device-specific. The blank screen usually happens when there's a session timeout or cookie conflict. Hope this helps!
This is super helpful! I'm dealing with the same issue right now and getting so frustrated. Going to try the cookie clearing method you suggested. Did you have to re-enter all your tax info after logging back in or does TurboTax save your progress on their servers? Really hoping I don't lose everything I've already entered š
I switched from a $750-per-return CPA to H&R Block two years ago for my small marketing business and honestly wish I'd done it sooner. My situation sounds similar to yours - I keep everything meticulously organized in QuickBooks, so I was basically paying premium prices for data entry. The H&R Block preparer I work with now is fantastic. She's been doing small business returns for 15+ years and actually found some deductions my expensive CPA had been missing (like software subscriptions and professional development courses). Cost dropped to about $285 for my Schedule C return. One thing I learned: don't just walk into any H&R Block. I called around and specifically asked which locations had the most experienced small business preparers. Made appointments at two different offices to interview them first. The difference in knowledge was night and day. Since you're already organized with QuickBooks, you're in a great position to make this work. The key is finding the right preparer who understands small business deductions and isn't afraid to be appropriately aggressive (within legal limits, of course). Your current accountant charging $600 per form sounds absolutely ridiculous for a small operation.
This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was looking for! The idea of interviewing preparers at different locations is brilliant - I never would have thought to do that. Did you find that the more experienced preparers were harder to get appointments with, or were they generally available? Also, when you say "appropriately aggressive" with deductions, can you give an example of something your new preparer claimed that your CPA wouldn't touch? I'm trying to get a sense of whether I'm potentially leaving money on the table with my overly cautious current accountant.
I switched from a $900/year CPA to H&R Block three years ago for my small e-commerce business and it's been a game-changer financially. Since you're already organized with QuickBooks, you're in the perfect position to make this transition successfully. Here's what I learned: The quality at H&R Block varies dramatically by location and preparer. I called five different offices before settling on one. Ask specifically for their most senior small business preparer and don't settle for whoever's available. The experienced ones typically have 10+ years doing Schedule C returns and understand the nuances of small business deductions. My costs dropped from $900 to around $350 for a Schedule C with some complexity (inventory, multiple revenue streams, home office). The preparer I work with now is actually more thorough than my old CPA was - she asks detailed questions about potential deductions and explains her reasoning for each decision. One surprise benefit: H&R Block's audit protection is pretty solid for small businesses. While it's not the same as having a CPA represent you, their Peace of Mind program covers audit assistance up to a certain dollar amount, which is sufficient for most small business audits. Bottom line: if your business is straightforward and you're organized, you'll likely save $300-500 annually without sacrificing quality. Just invest the time upfront to find the right preparer - it makes all the difference.
This is super encouraging! I'm curious about the audit protection you mentioned - how does H&R Block's Peace of Mind program actually work in practice? Like, if you get audited, do they assign you a dedicated person or is it more of a general help line? And what's the dollar limit on their coverage? My current CPA always emphasized audit representation as a key reason to stick with a CPA firm, so I'm trying to understand if I'd really be giving up significant protection by switching.
Great question about the audit protection! From my experience, H&R Block's Peace of Mind program assigns you a specific tax professional who will accompany you to IRS meetings, but they can't represent you like an EA or CPA would. The coverage limit is typically around $6,000 for audit assistance, which covers most small business audit situations. The main difference is that a CPA can speak for you and negotiate on your behalf, while H&R Block's rep is more of a knowledgeable support person who can explain your return and help you understand the process. For straightforward small businesses with good records (like yours with QuickBooks), this is usually sufficient. That said, if your business has complex issues or you're in a high-audit-risk industry, the CPA representation might be worth the extra cost. But for most small operations, H&R Block's protection plus the $400-500 annual savings makes it a smart financial choice.
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Can I just point out that all this complicated gifting strategy might not even be necessary depending on how much stock we're talking about? The $19k limit is PER RECIPIENT, PER YEAR. So if you're gifting to both your mom and dad, you could actually gift up to $38k total ($19k to each) without any reporting requirements. And if you're married, both you and your spouse can each give $19k to each parent, meaning up to $76k total ($19k Ć 2 givers Ć 2 recipients) without triggering gift tax reporting.
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Chloe Harris
ā¢This is a really good point. I've been overthinking my own stock gifting situation. Another thing to remember is that even if you go over the annual exclusion, you don't necessarily pay gift tax - you just have to file a gift tax return (Form 709) and it counts against your lifetime exemption, which is over $13 million per person for 2025!
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Miguel Ramos
Just want to add a timing consideration that might help with your volatile stock situation. Since you need to use the fair market value on the actual date of transfer to determine if you're under the $19k limit, you might want to monitor the stock price and choose a day when it's trading lower if possible. For example, if your stock is currently worth $25k but you only want to gift $18k worth, you'd need to transfer fewer shares on a high-price day versus a low-price day. This gives you some flexibility to maximize the number of shares you can gift while staying under the annual exclusion limit. Also, make sure you document everything clearly - the exact number of shares transferred, the closing price on the transfer date, and your original purchase information. Your parents will need all this information when they eventually sell, and having it organized from the start will save everyone headaches later.
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Mateo Sanchez
ā¢This is really helpful timing advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my tech stock has been swinging 10-15% in a single day lately. I never thought about strategically timing the transfer date to maximize how many shares I could gift within the limit. One question though - does the IRS care about which price you use if there's a big difference between opening, closing, high, and low on the transfer date? Should I use the closing price specifically or could I use an average of the day's trading range? @Miguel Ramos - also curious if there are any rules about how quickly the actual transfer has to happen once you decide on a date? Like if I see a good price on Monday but the brokerage transfer doesn t'complete until Wednesday, which date s'price counts?
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