Married Filing Separately vs Joint: Confused about itemization rules when one spouse itemizes

You're right to be confused because there is a specific rule about this. When married filing separately, if one spouse itemizes deductions, the other spouse CANNOT take the standard deduction - they must also itemize. The reason your returns might be getting processed without issue is that the IRS computer systems don't automatically cross-check married filing separately returns against each other at the time of filing. The matching happens later in their processing, and they may not be flagging this particular issue consistently. But technically, your wife should be itemizing if you are. For her, if she doesn't have many deductions to itemize, this often results in a higher tax bill than if she took the standard deduction - which is probably why your father-in-law doesn't do it that way. It's quite possible this is costing your wife money. I'd recommend reviewing your overall tax situation together. Many couples find that married filing jointly actually results in a lower overall tax burden when all factors are considered. Have you had a tax professional look at both your returns together rather than separately?

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Have you and your wife compared the total tax you both pay filing separately versus what you would pay filing jointly? I was in a similar situation and was shocked to find we were paying about $2,700 more in total taxes by filing separately. The only real benefit to filing separately is usually protecting yourself from tax liability issues with your spouse or in very specific situations like income-based repayment for student loans. My guess is your father-in-law might be using outdated information or not looking at the complete picture of both returns together.

Quick question about this - does this same rule apply for state taxes too? My husband and I file separately for federal but jointly for state because our state has better credits for joint filers.

I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience as someone who went through almost exactly the same situation. My spouse and I had been filing separately for about 6 years, with me itemizing (due to high medical expenses and charitable donations) while my spouse took the standard deduction. Like you, we never received any notices from the IRS, so I assumed we were doing everything correctly. It wasn't until I mentioned our situation to a CPA friend that I learned about the "both must itemize if one itemizes" rule for married filing separately. What really opened my eyes was when we finally did a comprehensive comparison of filing jointly vs. separately (with both of us itemizing correctly). We discovered we had been overpaying by about $1,800 annually! The joint filing gave us access to credits we couldn't claim when filing separately, and even though our combined income pushed us into a higher bracket, the overall tax was still significantly lower. The lesson I learned is that tax situations change over time - income levels, deduction amounts, tax law changes - and what made sense years ago might not be optimal anymore. I'd strongly recommend doing that side-by-side comparison before this year's filing deadline. You might be surprised by the results!