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I was in a very similar situation last year - my husband was working in Texas while I stayed in Colorado. One thing that really helped us was creating a detailed timeline of where each of us lived and worked throughout the year, including exact dates. This became crucial when filling out the state forms, especially for determining part-year residency status. For your situation, since you own property together in Michigan and you're still living there, you'll likely be considered a Michigan resident for the full year. Your wife's situation in Arizona might be more complex - she could be considered either a part-year resident or a non-resident depending on how long she's been there and whether she intends to make it permanent. One tip: keep all your lease agreements, utility bills, and work contracts as documentation. Arizona and Michigan may have different thresholds for what constitutes residency, and having clear documentation of your living situations will help if either state questions your filing status. Also, don't forget to check if either state has reciprocity agreements that might affect your filing requirements. Some states have agreements that can simplify the process for people working across state lines.
This is really helpful advice! The timeline idea is brilliant - I never would have thought to document exact dates like that. Quick question about the reciprocity agreements you mentioned - where would I find information about whether Michigan and Arizona have any agreements like this? Is this something I'd check on each state's tax website, or is there a federal resource that lists all these agreements?
You can check for reciprocity agreements on each state's Department of Revenue or taxation website - they usually have a section about nonresident filing requirements that will mention any reciprocal agreements. Michigan's Treasury website has a good search function for this. You can also check the Federation of Tax Administrators website (taxadmin.org) which maintains a list of state tax reciprocity agreements, though it's not always the most current. In your case though, Michigan and Arizona don't have a reciprocity agreement, so you'll need to file in both states as described above. The reciprocity agreements are more common between neighboring states - like Michigan has agreements with Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
Just wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - be careful about timing if you're planning to move back together soon. If your wife moves back to Michigan before the end of the tax year, it could change her residency status for 2024, which would affect how you file both federal and state returns. Also, since you mentioned this is temporary due to work situations, make sure to keep documentation showing the temporary nature of the arrangement (like a job contract with an end date, or correspondence about plans to relocate back together). This can be helpful if either state questions your filing status or tries to claim you as residents when you're not. One practical tip: consider doing your taxes a bit earlier this year since multi-state filings can take longer to process. Both Michigan and Arizona may need additional time to review returns that involve couples filing separately at the state level but jointly at the federal level. Getting everything filed early gives you more time to address any questions that come up.
This is excellent advice about the timing aspect! I hadn't considered how a mid-year move could complicate things. Since you mentioned filing early for multi-state situations - do you know roughly how much longer these returns typically take to process? I'm used to getting my refund back in about 3 weeks with a simple single-state return, but I'm wondering if I should expect significantly longer delays with Michigan and Arizona both involved.
Has anyone here actually gotten audited by the IRS for premium tax credit issues? I'm in a similar situation but honestly thinking about just claiming the credit for all months and seeing what happens. It's only about $340 for that overlap month and seems like a lot of hassle to figure out.
Don't do that! The IRS gets reporting directly from both your employer and the marketplace about your coverage. They specifically look for this kind of overlap. My cousin tried what you're suggesting and got a letter 6 months later demanding repayment plus a 20% accuracy penalty. Just report it correctly upfront.
I went through almost exactly this situation last year and can confirm what others have said - you'll need to repay the APTC for that overlap month. The IRS considers you ineligible for the premium tax credit during any month when you were eligible for qualifying employer coverage, regardless of whether you actually used both plans. A few practical tips from my experience: 1. Make sure to check your employer's plan documents for the exact eligibility date - sometimes it's different from when coverage actually starts 2. Keep documentation of when your employer coverage began in case the IRS asks for proof later 3. The repayment caps mentioned earlier can really help limit what you owe if your income qualifies One thing that caught me off guard was that my tax software initially missed the overlap entirely until I manually entered the employer coverage dates. Double-check that your software is accounting for both coverages correctly when calculating your Form 8962. The good news is that even though you have to repay that month's APTC, you can still claim the premium tax credit for the other 6 months where you only had marketplace coverage. It's frustrating but not as bad as having to repay everything!
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar overlap situation and your point about checking the employer plan documents for the exact eligibility date is something I hadn't thought of. Did you end up having to pay any penalties beyond just repaying the APTC? And when you say your tax software initially missed the overlap, do you mean it didn't prompt you to enter employer coverage dates, or it just didn't calculate the repayment correctly even after you entered the information? I'm using TurboTax and want to make sure I'm not missing anything that could cause problems later.
Make sure you're also considering the account statements! If the account was generating interest, dividends, or other income AFTER your uncle passed but BEFORE you took over the account, that income technically belongs to the estate and should be reported on the estate's income tax return (Form 1041). The bank will issue a 1099 for that income, and if it's in your name, the IRS will expect to see it on your personal return. You might need to file a separate schedule showing that this income belongs to the estate, not you personally.
This is an important point that people miss. I work at a bank and see this confusion all the time with joint accounts after death. The income attribution gets messy, especially when the account stays open for months after someone passes.
One more thing to keep in mind - you'll want to get documentation from the bank showing when you were added as a secondary account holder and what type of account it was (joint tenants with right of survivorship vs. convenience account, etc.). This can matter for tax purposes. Also, check if your uncle's estate went through probate. If it did, the probate court records should show how this account was handled. Sometimes joint accounts are excluded from probate, but the estate executor should still account for them when calculating the total estate value. If you're unsure about any of this, it might be worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in estate matters. The $43,000 amount is significant enough that you want to make sure you handle it correctly, especially since inheritance and estate tax rules can be complex and vary by state.
This is really helpful advice about getting documentation from the bank. I hadn't thought about the difference between joint tenants with right of survivorship vs. a convenience account - that could definitely affect how this is treated for tax purposes. Do you know if the bank is required to provide this documentation, or is it something I need to request specifically? I'm worried they might not have kept detailed records about when I was added or what type of arrangement it was, especially if it was set up years ago. Also, regarding probate - how would I find out if my uncle's estate went through probate? Would that be public record I could look up somewhere?
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you do get the retroactive S-Corp election approved, make sure your CPA prepares a reasonable compensation study to justify whatever salary you're setting for yourself. The IRS really scrutinizes S-Corps because they know owners try to minimize salary (which is subject to employment taxes) in favor of distributions. Have you actually calculated how much you might save by switching to S-Corp status for 2022? It's mainly the Medicare and Social Security tax savings on the distribution portion, but you need to weigh that against the additional complexity and compliance costs.
What exactly is a "reasonable compensation study"? Is this something any CPA can do or do you need a specialist?
A reasonable compensation study is essentially documentation that supports the salary you've set for yourself as an S-Corp owner. It doesn't have to be a formal study done by a third party (though those exist), but should include evidence showing your salary is appropriate based on factors like: - Industry salary surveys for similar positions - Your qualifications, experience and time committed to the business - Geographic location salary data - The size and complexity of your business - Compensation for non-owner employees performing similar work - What competitors pay for similar roles Most CPAs who work regularly with small businesses and S-Corps can help put this together. The key is having it prepared before the IRS asks for it. If you're retroactively becoming an S-Corp and the IRS reviews your election, having this documentation ready shows you're making a good faith effort to comply with the "reasonable compensation" requirement.
I went through a very similar situation about two years ago and successfully did the retroactive S-Corp election. A few things I learned that might help: First, yes, Rev. Proc. 2013-30 is absolutely legitimate, but timing is crucial. You have 3 years and 75 days from the original due date you wanted the election to be effective. So for 2022, you'd need to act soon. Second, the "reasonable cause" statement is critical. I used the fact that my previous tax preparer never mentioned S-Corp elections as an option despite my business income level. The IRS accepted this reasoning. Document everything - emails, conversations, even the lack of discussion about entity elections. Third, calculate the potential savings first before diving in. In my case, I saved about $18k in self-employment taxes, but I also had to establish a reasonable salary (I used about 60% of net income based on industry data) and file amended returns for multiple years. The process took about 6-8 months total to get fully resolved, but it was absolutely worth it. Make sure your new CPA has experience with late S-Corp elections - not all tax professionals are familiar with the process. Good luck!
Anastasia Fedorov
Has anyone actually gone through this process of changing from IT to lending? I'm considering something similar and wondering about the actual paperwork involved. Did you have to refile your EIN or get new business bank accounts? Did it affect existing contracts you had with IT clients?
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Anastasia Fedorov
ā¢Thank you for sharing your experience! That's super helpful. Did you have any issues with your existing clients during the transition? And did you need to do anything special for taxes that year since you had income from two different business types?
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Sean Doyle
ā¢I gave my web design clients about 3 months notice and referred them to other designers I trust. Most were understanding, though a couple were annoyed. The main challenge was having proper documentation for everything. For taxes, I kept very detailed records separating the income streams and expenses for each business type. My accountant recommended setting up different classes in QuickBooks to track everything separately. This made tax filing much easier. I did have to file some additional schedules with my return that year to account for the different business activities. The tax treatment was different for the property management income versus the service income from web design.
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Sophie Footman
Just went through a similar transition last year - changed my LLC from marketing consulting to real estate investing. Here's what I learned that might help with your IT to lending switch: The good news is you can definitely keep your existing LLC, but you'll need to handle several steps properly. First, check if your state requires you to amend your Articles of Organization to reflect the new business purpose. Some states are strict about this, others are more flexible. For lending specifically, you'll absolutely need to research your state's lending laws and licensing requirements. This is heavily regulated - much more so than IT services. Look into whether you need a money lender's license, what your state's usury laws are, and if there are any bonding requirements. Don't forget about the practical stuff either: new business insurance (your current policy definitely won't cover lending activities), potentially new banking relationships (some banks have stricter requirements for lending businesses), and updated contracts/agreements. The tax implications are also significant - interest income is taxed differently than service income, and you'll have different allowable deductions. I'd strongly recommend consulting with both a business attorney familiar with lending regulations and a CPA before making the switch. Timeline-wise, plan for 2-3 months to get everything properly sorted. The licensing part usually takes the longest, so start there first.
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Isabella Silva
ā¢This is incredibly thorough advice - thank you for sharing your real experience! I'm curious about the bonding requirements you mentioned. How do you find out what bonding is needed for lending in your state? Is that something the state licensing department tells you, or do you have to research that separately? Also, when you say "stricter banking requirements" - did your bank make you switch to a different type of account or just provide additional documentation?
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