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A $10.5k refund means your essentially giving the government an interest-free loan of almost $900 a month!!! Thats crazy in this economy. I changed my withholdings last february and now i get an extra $600 in my checks every month. Just make sure u have a little cushion in case the calculator is wrong.
Right?? I don't understand why people get excited about big refunds. That's YOUR money that you could have been using all year! But how did you figure out exactly how much to change your withholdings? Did you just guess?
I've been using Taxcaster for a few years now and I'd say it's decent for a rough estimate but definitely not perfect. The biggest issue I've found is that it doesn't handle more complex tax situations very well - like if you have multiple income sources, itemized deductions, or any unusual circumstances. That said, a $10.5k refund does sound like you're significantly overwithholding! Even if Taxcaster is off by 20-30%, you're still probably getting way more back than you should be. I'd recommend starting conservatively - maybe adjust your withholdings to reduce your expected refund by half rather than trying to zero it out completely. That way you still get some extra money in your paychecks but have a safety buffer. Also, definitely double-check your inputs in Taxcaster and consider running the numbers through the IRS Withholding Calculator as well. Having two different estimates can help you feel more confident about making changes.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation where I think I'm overwithholding but I've been too nervous to make changes. The idea of adjusting by half rather than trying to zero out the entire refund is smart - gives you that safety net while still getting some benefit. Quick question though - when you say Taxcaster doesn't handle complex situations well, what specific things should I watch out for? I have a pretty straightforward W-2 job but I do have some investment income from dividends and I'm wondering if that could throw off the estimate significantly.
Investment income is definitely one of those things that can throw off Taxcaster's estimates! Dividends are subject to different tax rates depending on whether they're qualified or non-qualified, and Taxcaster sometimes oversimplifies this. It also doesn't always account properly for the timing of when you receive dividends throughout the year. Other things to watch out for include: side gig income (1099 work), rental property income, capital gains/losses from selling investments, tax-loss harvesting, and any major changes in your situation mid-year (like getting married, having a baby, or buying a house). For your dividend income, I'd recommend being extra conservative with your withholding adjustments. Maybe start by reducing your expected refund by just 25-30% instead of half, and see how that plays out. You can always adjust further next year once you see how accurate the estimates were.
I went through almost exactly your situation in 2023. Filed in January, needed refund urgently, contacted TAS on March 12th, and didn't hear back until April 27th - exactly 46 days later. When they finally reached out, my case was resolved in precisely 3 days. The frustrating reality is that TAS is handling 500% more cases than they were designed for. One thing I learned: document EVERYTHING. Note every call time, representative name, reference number, and promised follow-up date. In my case, having this detailed record of my 14 previous contact attempts actually helped expedite things once I finally got through. If you're facing eviction in 7 days, I'd recommend physically going to your local Taxpayer Assistance Center - they can sometimes intervene in true emergency situations.
I'm so sorry you're going through this - the stress of potentially losing housing with 5 kids while dealing with IRS delays must be overwhelming. From what I've learned lurking in this community, TAS is severely backlogged right now, but there are a few things you might try immediately: 1. **Emergency hardship designation**: Since you're facing imminent eviction, call TAS and specifically use the phrase "emergency hardship case" - this should trigger faster processing according to their own guidelines. 2. **Local Taxpayer Assistance Center**: As Lucy mentioned, showing up in person with documentation of your eviction notice might get you faster help than phone calls. 3. **Multiple congressional offices**: Don't just contact your representative - try both senators too. Sometimes one office is more responsive than others. 4. **Document everything**: Keep a detailed log of every interaction, including times you were hung up on. This creates a paper trail that can be useful for escalation. The system is clearly broken when families are at risk of homelessness while waiting for their own tax money. You shouldn't have to choose between paying for third-party services and keeping a roof over your kids' heads. Have you been able to get any written confirmation from TAS about your case status or timeline?
This is really helpful advice, especially the part about using specific language like "emergency hardship case." I'm new to dealing with tax issues but have been following similar stories here. One thing that struck me - is there a way to escalate beyond the local TAS office if they're not responding? Like, does TAS have supervisors or managers who handle cases when the regular advocates aren't following up? It seems like there should be some kind of internal accountability when people are literally facing homelessness over delayed refunds.
Hey Freya! I totally understand the confusion - I went through the exact same thing when I first set up my Solo 401k. The distinction absolutely DOES matter, and here's why: You get two separate contribution buckets as a self-employed person. The "employee" contribution is limited to $23,000 for 2025 (this is like your salary deferral), while the "employer" contribution can be up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (but there's a formula that effectively makes it about 20%). With your $96k income, you could potentially contribute the full $23k as employee contributions PLUS additional employer contributions based on your net profit after expenses and SE tax adjustments. The total combined limit is $69,000 for 2025. The key deadline difference: employee contributions must be made by December 31, 2025, but employer contributions can wait until your tax filing deadline (including extensions). Since you're running out of time for 2025, focus on maximizing your employee contributions first - you can always add employer contributions when you file your taxes next year!
This is super helpful, Sara! I'm in a similar situation as Freya and had no idea about the deadline differences. So just to clarify - if I max out the $23k employee contribution by December 31st, I can then take my time to calculate the exact employer contribution amount when I'm doing my taxes? That would be such a relief since I'm still trying to figure out all my business expenses for the year. Also, do you know if there are any restrictions on how the employer contribution needs to be invested compared to the employee portion?
Exactly right, Lydia! You can absolutely max out your employee contributions by December 31st and then take your time calculating the employer portion when you file taxes. That's one of the nice flexibilities of the Solo 401k. As for investment restrictions - there typically aren't any differences between how employee and employer contributions can be invested once they're in your account. Both portions can usually be invested in the same funds, stocks, bonds, etc. that your plan provider offers. The money gets commingled in your account, so the investment options are the same regardless of which "bucket" the contributions originally came from. The main thing to keep in mind is that if you did any employee contributions as Roth (after-tax), those might be tracked separately for accounting purposes, but even then the investment options are usually identical. Just make sure to keep good records of which contributions were employee vs employer for your own tax preparation - your provider should help track this too!
The timing aspect is really crucial here! Since you mentioned you're running out of time, I'd recommend focusing on getting your employee contributions maxed out first before December 31st. You can contribute up to $23,000 as employee deferrals, and this is the portion that has the hard year-end deadline. For your employer contribution calculation with $96k in income, you'll need to factor in your business expenses and the SE tax adjustment that others mentioned. The effective rate works out to about 20% of your net self-employment income after all adjustments, which could be a substantial additional contribution on top of the $23k employee portion. The good news is you have until your tax filing deadline (even with extensions) to make the employer contributions, so don't stress too much about getting that exact calculation perfect right now. Focus on maximizing that $23k employee contribution before year-end, then work with a tax professional early next year to optimize your employer contribution based on your final 2025 numbers. One last tip - if your Solo 401k plan allows Roth contributions, you might want to consider designating some or all of your employee contributions as Roth, especially if you expect higher income in future years. The employer portion will be pre-tax regardless, so this gives you some tax diversification.
Thanks for breaking this down so clearly, Caleb! As someone new to the Solo 401k world, this timeline breakdown is exactly what I needed. I'm feeling much better about focusing on the $23k employee contribution deadline first. Quick question though - when you mention working with a tax professional for the employer contribution calculation, do most CPAs handle Solo 401k calculations routinely, or should I be looking for someone with specific retirement plan expertise? I want to make sure I don't end up with someone who's as confused as I initially was about these rules!
Most CPAs should be able to handle Solo 401k calculations since they're pretty standard for self-employed clients, but you're right to be cautious! When vetting potential tax professionals, I'd specifically ask them about their experience with self-employed retirement plans and Solo 401k contribution limits. A good CPA should be able to quickly explain the difference between employee and employer contribution limits and the SE tax adjustment formula. If you want to be extra sure, look for someone who has experience with small business owners or independent contractors - they deal with these calculations regularly. You could also ask them to walk through a hypothetical calculation during your initial consultation to gauge their familiarity. That said, the IRS publications (like Pub 560) are pretty clear on the formulas, so even a competent generalist CPA should be able to handle it correctly. The key is finding someone who doesn't just plug numbers into software but actually understands what they're calculating!
This thread has been incredibly helpful in clarifying the S-Corp owning LLCs structure. I'm in a similar situation with multiple business ventures and was also confused about the terminology. One thing I'd add based on my research is that you'll want to consider the state-level implications too. While federally the LLCs owned by your S-Corp will be treated as divisions, some states have different rules for state tax purposes. For example, some states require separate LLC tax filings even when they're federally disregarded entities owned by an S-Corp. Also, regarding the liability protection discussion - make sure you understand that while the LLC structure protects between business lines, it doesn't protect you personally from professional liability in businesses where you're directly involved. If you're providing professional services through any of these LLCs, you'll still have personal exposure for your own actions, regardless of the entity structure. The holding company approach with an S-Corp owning multiple LLCs is definitely a solid strategy for what you're trying to accomplish, just make sure your implementation covers all the operational details mentioned in the comments above.
Great point about state-level considerations! I'm just getting started with understanding business structures and hadn't even thought about the fact that federal and state tax treatment could be different. When you mention some states requiring separate LLC filings even when they're federally disregarded - does that mean you'd potentially have to file tax returns in multiple states if your LLCs operate in different states? That could get complicated quickly. Also, the professional liability point is really important. I was thinking the LLC structure would protect me from everything, but you're right that if I'm personally providing services, I'd still have personal exposure for my own mistakes regardless of the entity structure. Sounds like professional liability insurance would still be necessary even with this setup. Thanks for adding those practical considerations - it's exactly the kind of real-world details that help someone new to this understand what they're actually getting into!
This discussion has been really enlightening! I've been wrestling with a similar structure question for my consulting and e-commerce businesses. One additional consideration I'd mention is the impact on your Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction under Section 199A. When you have an S-Corp owning multiple LLCs that are treated as divisions, all the income flows through to your personal return as S-Corp income. Depending on your income level and the nature of your businesses, this could affect how much of the 20% QBI deduction you can claim compared to if you structured things differently. For example, if one of your business lines is a "specified service trade or business" (like consulting, law, accounting, etc.), the QBI deduction phases out at higher income levels. But if your other businesses are non-service businesses, they might not have the same limitations. Your tax advisor should be able to model this out for you, but it's worth understanding how the entity structure affects this deduction since it can be pretty significant. The holding company approach is still likely the right move for liability protection, but the QBI implications might influence other decisions like how you take distributions or whether you elect S-Corp treatment for any of the subsidiaries.
Vince Eh
Ive been a tax preparer for 8 years and ppl get confused about this all the time! Here's a quick cheat sheet for adult kids: 1. Over 19 (or over 24 if student) + income over $4,700 = NOT your dependent 2. Under 19 (or under 24 if student) + income ANY amount = CAN be your dependent if you provide >50% support and they live with you The only exception is permanently disabled adult children who can be dependents regardless of age.
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Sophia Gabriel
ā¢Is that $4,700 limit set in stone? I thought it changes each year with inflation or something?
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Mary Bates
ā¢Yes, the $4,700 limit does change annually! For 2024 taxes (filed in 2025), it's $4,700. For 2023 taxes it was $4,400. The IRS adjusts it each year for inflation, so it gradually increases over time. Always check the current year's amount when doing your taxes since using an outdated figure could cause problems.
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Clarissa Flair
Just to add another perspective - I went through this exact situation with my 19-year-old last year. She made about $6,800 working retail and I was so frustrated that I couldn't claim her even though I was paying for everything else in her life. What helped me was looking at it this way: even though you lose the dependent exemption, your kids will likely get most of their withheld taxes back as refunds since they're in such low tax brackets. In my daughter's case, she got back about $900 that had been withheld from her paychecks. Also, don't forget that you might still qualify for other tax benefits even if you can't claim them as dependents. If either of your kids takes any college courses (even just one class), you could potentially claim education credits. And if you're paying for their health insurance, you can still deduct those premiums in some situations. The IRS rules seem harsh but they're designed to prevent double-dipping - your kids get to keep their refunds, and the system assumes adults earning income should file their own returns.
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Sophia Russo
ā¢This is really helpful perspective! I hadn't thought about it that way - that my kids would actually get refunds. That does make me feel a bit better about the whole situation. Do you happen to know if there are any other tax benefits I might still be eligible for even though I can't claim them as dependents? You mentioned health insurance premiums - is that something I can deduct if I'm covering them on my plan?
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