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Yuki Ito

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Question - have you checked the SBTPG site using both mobile and desktop? Their site is janky AF and sometimes shows different info depending on how you access it. On my phone it showed no trace number but on desktop it was there! worth a try

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I haven't tried that! Will check on my laptop when I get home. Their mobile site is terrible.

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Honorah King

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed in early March, got accepted, transcript shows 846 code with April 1st issue date, but SBTPG has been showing a blank trace number field for over two weeks. It's so stressful when you're counting on that money. I've been checking their site multiple times a day hoping something will show up. Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like this is unfortunately pretty common with SBTPG this year. I'm going to try calling the IRS tomorrow morning and see if they can give me any insight into what's actually happening on their end. Really hoping we both get some answers soon - the waiting is killing me!

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Paolo Ricci

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I feel your pain! I'm dealing with something similar - my transcript shows the refund was issued but SBTPG just has that frustrating blank space where the trace number should be. It's so nerve-wracking when you need that money for bills. From reading through all these comments, it seems like SBTPG is having major issues this year. Some people are saying to call the IRS directly since they can see what's actually happening behind the scenes. I might try that myself if nothing shows up by the end of this week. Fingers crossed we both get some movement soon! šŸ¤ž

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Great question! I went through this exact same decision last year when I converted my LLC to S-Corp status. After researching and consulting with my tax professional, I ended up having my S-Corp pay 100% of my health insurance premiums. The math is pretty straightforward - at your $780/month premium ($9,360 annually), having the S-Corp pay saves you about $1,430 per year in FICA taxes (15.3% of $9,360). There's really no downside to going with 100% since you get the full deduction either way, but maximize your payroll tax savings. Just make sure you document everything properly. I have my S-Corp pay the insurance company directly each month, and my payroll service adds the premium amount to my W-2 wages (Box 1) but excludes it from Social Security and Medicare wages. Then I deduct the full amount on Line 17 of my personal return. One tip - if you're doing your own payroll, double-check that you're coding the health insurance correctly. It should be included in federal wages but excluded from FICA wages. I use QuickBooks Payroll and there's a specific payroll item for "Health Insurance (S-Corp >2% Owner)" that handles this automatically. With your $75k salary on $125k revenue, you're in a great position - very reasonable compensation ratio that won't raise any IRS eyebrows!

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Diez Ellis

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This is really helpful, thanks! Quick question about the documentation - when you say have the S-Corp pay the insurance company directly, do you set up some kind of automatic payment from your business account? I'm worried about missing payments or having timing issues if I'm manually handling this each month. Also, does it matter if the insurance policy is technically in my personal name vs the business name for tax purposes?

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Great question about the logistics! Yes, I set up automatic ACH payments from my business checking account directly to my insurance company. Most insurers allow you to change the payment method online - I just logged into my portal and switched from my personal account to my business account. Set it to auto-pay a few days before the due date to avoid any timing issues. The policy can absolutely stay in your personal name - that doesn't matter for tax purposes at all. What matters is who's paying the premiums and how it's documented. I keep a simple spreadsheet tracking each month's payment with the date, amount, and insurance company, plus I save the bank statements showing the business account payments. My insurance company also emails me payment confirmations each month, which I save in a folder for tax documentation. The key is just having a clear paper trail showing your S-Corp paid the premiums directly to the insurer. Much cleaner than the reimbursement method and eliminates any potential issues with timing or documentation gaps.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact on your Affordable Care Act (ACA) compliance if you ever have employees. Right now as a single-member S-Corp you're fine, but if you plan to hire employees in the future, you'll want to make sure your health insurance arrangement doesn't create complications with ACA employer mandate requirements. Also, don't forget that if you have a spouse who could potentially be covered under your plan, the S-Corp can pay for family coverage too and you'd get the same FICA tax savings on the entire premium amount. Just make sure any family members covered are properly reflected in your documentation. The 100% S-Corp payment approach is definitely the way to go for maximizing your tax benefits. At your income level and premium amount, you're looking at saving around $1,430 annually in payroll taxes compared to paying personally - that's basically 1.8 months of free health insurance!

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Nathan Kim

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This is a great point about future employees! I'm actually considering hiring a part-time assistant next year, so I hadn't thought about how that might complicate things. Do you know if there's a specific employee threshold where ACA requirements kick in, or is it immediate once you have any employees? Also, regarding the spouse coverage - that's really interesting. My spouse currently gets insurance through their employer, but their premiums are pretty high. Would there be any issues with them dropping their employer coverage to join my S-Corp plan, or any coordination of benefits complications I should be aware of? The potential to get FICA savings on family coverage could be substantial given how expensive family plans are.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar K-1 situation and wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant for some folks here. If your partnership is involved in oil, gas, or other natural resource activities, some of those box 13, code W expenses might actually be depletion-related costs that could be handled differently. I learned this the hard way when I assumed all my box 13 expenses were the same suspended miscellaneous deductions. Also, for anyone tracking these expenses for future deductibility after 2025 - make sure you're also keeping records of any AMT adjustments related to these items. Some partnership expenses that aren't deductible for regular tax purposes might still affect your alternative minimum tax calculations, and you'll want that documentation if the rules change again. One last tip: if you're working with a tax professional, bring them the entire K-1 instructions booklet that came with your K-1, not just the form itself. Those instructions often contain partnership-specific explanations for the various codes that can be really helpful in determining the exact nature of your box 13 items.

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This is such valuable additional context! The point about natural resource partnerships is especially important - I hadn't considered that some box 13, code W expenses might have different treatment depending on the underlying business activity. Your mention of AMT implications is also spot-on. Even though individual AMT has much less impact post-TCJA due to the higher exemption amounts, it's still worth tracking these items since partnership investments can generate various preference items that might push you into AMT territory. The tip about bringing the full K-1 instructions booklet to your tax preparer is gold. I made the mistake of just handing over the K-1 form itself last year, and we missed some nuances that were clearly explained in the partnership-specific instructions that came with it. For anyone else reading this thread - it's also worth noting that if you have multiple partnership interests, each partnership might classify similar expenses with different box 13 codes depending on their specific activities and how their accountants interpret the reporting requirements. So don't assume all your "management fees" will be treated identically across different K-1s.

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This has been such an educational thread! As someone who's been wrestling with these same box 13, code W expenses from my real estate partnership K-1, I wanted to share what I learned from my state tax research. For those asking about state deductibility - it's really worth checking your specific state's conformity rules. I'm in Illinois, and while IL generally conforms to federal tax changes, they specifically chose NOT to suspend miscellaneous itemized deductions for state purposes. So I was able to deduct my $6,200 in management fees on my IL-1040, saving me about $310 in state taxes. The key is understanding that each state made its own decision about whether to conform to the TCJA changes. States like California, New York, Pennsylvania, and Illinois maintained these deductions, while others followed the federal suspension. Don't assume either way - check your state's specific rules or consult their tax website. Also, for those tracking these expenses for future years - I created a simple spreadsheet with columns for the tax year, partnership name, amount, and notes about the specific nature of the expenses. When 2026 rolls around and these become federally deductible again, you'll have a clean record of everything you've accumulated over the years. One more thing - if you're in a state that still allows these deductions, make sure you're actually itemizing on your state return. Some states require you to itemize state even if you take the standard deduction federally, which could make these partnership expenses valuable even if your other itemized deductions aren't high enough to beat the federal standard deduction.

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This is incredibly helpful information about state-specific rules! I'm just getting started with understanding K-1s (this is my first year with partnership investments), and I had no idea that states could choose whether or not to follow federal tax law changes like this. Your point about needing to itemize on the state return even when taking the federal standard deduction is something I never would have thought of. I'm in Texas so we don't have state income tax, but this is great to know for future reference if I ever move. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to set that up now rather than trying to reconstruct everything in a few years when the rules change back. Do you happen to track anything else in your spreadsheet beyond what you mentioned, like which specific box 13 codes the expenses came from or whether they might qualify for NIIT offset? Thanks for sharing your research process - as a newcomer to all this, it's really helpful to see how more experienced investors approach tracking these complex tax items!

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CyberSamurai

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Great thread with lots of helpful information! I just completed my Form 706NA payment process last week and wanted to share a few additional tips that might help others: 1. Double-check your bank account information before submitting - I made a typo in my routing number initially and had to start over. The IRS system caught it during verification, but it delayed my payment by several days. 2. If you're making a large payment (like the $34,500 mentioned in the original post), some banks have daily ACH limits that might prevent the transaction from going through. I had to call my bank to temporarily increase my limit for the estate tax payment. 3. Keep multiple copies of your confirmation page and save it as a PDF. I printed three copies and emailed the PDF to myself as backup. The confirmation number is crucial if you ever need to trace the payment. The whole process was actually smoother than I expected once I figured out the right options to select. The key is just being very careful about the tax year selection (as Vanessa mentioned) and making sure all your information is exactly correct before hitting submit.

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Chloe Zhang

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Thanks for these practical tips! The bank daily limit issue is something I never would have thought about. I'm dealing with a similar situation where the estate owes around $28,000, and my bank does have ACH limits. Did you have to provide any special documentation to your bank to increase the limit temporarily, or was it just a phone call? I want to make sure I have everything ready before I attempt the payment since I'm already cutting it close to the deadline.

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Anna Stewart

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@CyberSamurai For my bank, it was just a phone call to their business banking department (since I was acting as executor). I explained that I needed to make a one-time IRS estate tax payment and they temporarily raised my ACH limit for 48 hours without any additional documentation. However, different banks have different policies - some might require you to provide a copy of your letters testamentary or proof that you're the authorized representative for the estate. I'd recommend calling your bank a day or two before you plan to make the payment, just to be safe. Some banks can make the change immediately over the phone, while others might need 24 hours to process the limit increase. Given that you're close to the deadline, definitely don't wait until the last minute to sort this out! Also, if your bank gives you any trouble, you could consider using a wire transfer instead, though that typically comes with higher fees. The important thing is getting the payment submitted on time.

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Ava Garcia

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I went through this exact process about 6 months ago and can confirm that the Direct Pay method works well for Form 706NA. One thing that really helped me was calling the IRS taxpayer assistance line beforehand to confirm I was selecting the right options - they verified that using "Form 706" in the system covers both regular 706 and 706NA filings. A few additional tips from my experience: - Make sure you have the estate's EIN ready before starting the payment process - The system will ask for the "primary taxpayer" - use the decedent's name exactly as it appears on the 706NA form - If you're making the payment close to the due date, consider doing it in the morning rather than late at night to avoid any potential system maintenance windows The confirmation email came through within about 10 minutes, and I was able to track the payment status through my bank. The whole process took less than 15 minutes once I had all the information ready. Don't stress too much about it - the IRS payment system is actually pretty straightforward once you know which buttons to click!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm just starting this process and feeling overwhelmed. Quick question - when you called the IRS taxpayer assistance line, how long did it take to get through? I've been dreading having to call them because I keep hearing horror stories about multi-hour wait times. Did you have any specific number you called or just the general taxpayer assistance line? I want to get confirmation before I submit my payment too, but I'm worried about spending my whole day on hold.

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Aidan Percy

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@Javier Morales I actually used Claimyr mentioned (earlier in this thread by Max Knight to) get through to the IRS. After reading about it here, I figured it was worth trying since I was dreading the wait times too. Got connected in about 25 minutes, which was way better than the 3+ hour waits I d'experienced trying to call directly. If you don t'want to use a service like that, I d'suggest calling the main taxpayer assistance line 1-800-829-1040 (early) in the morning - like right at 7 AM when they open. That seems to be when wait times are shortest. But honestly, for estate tax questions, the representatives are usually pretty knowledgeable and it s'worth getting confirmation before you submit a $28k+ payment. The peace of mind is worth whatever method gets you through fastest!

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Zane Gray

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Had this exact same confusion when I filed! It's totally normal - TurboTax is basically just telling you "hey we successfully sent your return to the IRS without any transmission errors" while the IRS site shows where your return actually is in their processing pipeline. The IRS "Where's My Refund" tool is definitely the one to trust for your real status. Once you see it move from "received" to "approved" on the IRS site, that's when you know they've finished processing and your refund is on the way. The waiting game is tough but at least you know everything is moving along normally!

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Malik Jenkins

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wow this thread has been so helpful! i was literally losing sleep over this thinking something was wrong with my return. glad to know this is just how the system works and that the irs site is the real source of truth. definitely bookmarking the where's my refund tool and ignoring turbotax status from now on!

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Ava Johnson

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This happens to pretty much everyone who uses TurboTax! The confusion is totally understandable. Think of it this way - TurboTax is like the post office telling you "we successfully mailed your letter" while the IRS website is like tracking that shows "your package has arrived at the destination and is being processed." Both are correct, they're just showing different parts of the journey. The IRS Where's My Refund tool is always going to be your most accurate source for actual processing status. Hang in there - "received" is a good sign that everything is moving along normally!

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