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Does anyone know if having unfiled taxes will affect getting approved for an apartment? I'm in the same boat (didn't file 2021) and I'm trying to move next month. Worried this might show up on background checks...
Property management companies usually check your credit score, not your tax filing status. The IRS doesn't report unfiled taxes to credit bureaus unless they've placed a tax lien against you (which takes years of non-compliance, not just missing one year).
Don't stress too much about this! With an income of $19,500 in 2021, you're likely in a pretty good position. Given that amount, you probably had taxes withheld from your paychecks throughout the year, which means there's a decent chance you're actually owed a refund rather than owing money. Here's what I'd recommend: gather all your W-2s and 1099s from 2021, then use tax software that handles prior year returns or consider working with a tax professional who can walk you through the process. The most important thing is to file as soon as possible - not because you're in terrible trouble, but because if you are owed money, you want to claim it before the April 2025 deadline. If it turns out you do owe a small amount, the IRS offers payment plans and is generally reasonable to work with, especially for first-time late filers. The anxiety you're feeling is totally normal, but the reality is usually much less scary than what we build up in our heads. You've got this!
This is really reassuring to hear! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation - missed filing 2022 taxes and have been putting it off because I was so anxious about it. Reading everyone's experiences here makes me feel like it's not the end of the world. The point about potentially getting a refund rather than owing money is especially encouraging since I had multiple jobs with withholdings too. Definitely going to stop procrastinating and get this sorted out this week!
This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's been completely overwhelmed trying to understand what 2026 will bring, reading through all these perspectives has really helped clarify the scope of changes we're facing. I'm particularly struck by how many different moving parts there are - it's not just about tax rates going up, but also the standard deduction changes, AMT exemption reversions, QBI deduction expiration, Child Tax Credit reductions, and the return of various itemized deductions. The interactions between all these changes seem like they could create very different outcomes depending on your specific situation. What's becoming clear to me is that there's no one-size-fits-all answer to how these changes will affect people. Someone with high state taxes might actually come out ahead with unlimited SALT deductions despite higher rates, while a family with kids in a low-tax state could face a significant increase from losing the expanded Child Tax Credit and standard deduction. The uncertainty about Congressional action makes it even more challenging. It sounds like the smart approach is to prepare for multiple scenarios rather than betting on any specific outcome. I'm definitely going to start running some numbers for my own situation and probably consult with a tax professional before making any major financial moves in 2025. Thanks to everyone who shared their insights and experiences - this kind of real-world discussion is so much more helpful than trying to parse through dense policy articles alone!
You've really captured the essence of what makes this situation so challenging! As someone new to understanding these tax complexities, I'm amazed at how interconnected all these provisions are. What struck me most from this discussion is that some people might actually benefit from certain aspects of the 2026 changes (like unlimited SALT deductions) while being hurt by others (higher rates, reduced standard deduction). It really drives home your point that there's no universal impact. I'm also realizing that the "tax cliff" terminology is quite apt - it's not just a gradual increase but a sudden shift across multiple dimensions simultaneously. The timing uncertainty makes it feel like we're all trying to plan a trip without knowing if the destination or the route will change at the last minute. I think I'm going to start by using some of the tools mentioned earlier in this thread to get a baseline understanding of how these changes might affect me personally, then probably seek professional guidance for more complex planning decisions. The investment in understanding this now seems like it could pay off significantly in avoiding surprises later. Thanks for synthesizing all these insights so clearly - it really helps put the whole picture in perspective!
As a newcomer to this community, I have to say this thread has been incredibly educational! I've been dreading 2026 without really understanding why, but seeing all the specifics laid out here really helps put things in perspective. What's particularly eye-opening is learning about provisions I had never even heard of, like the QBI deduction for self-employed folks and the AMT exemption changes. I always thought the 2026 "tax cliff" was just about rates going up, but it's clearly much more complex than that. The tools and services mentioned throughout this discussion seem really valuable - I had no idea there were resources available to help model these different scenarios or navigate the IRS maze more efficiently. As someone who typically just uses basic tax software and hopes for the best, it sounds like 2026 might be the year I need to step up my tax planning game. I'm especially grateful for the professional perspectives shared here. It's reassuring to know that even tax preparers find these interactions complex - makes me feel less foolish for being confused by it all! One question I have after reading everything: for someone like me who's relatively new to serious tax planning, what would be the most important first step to take in 2025 to prepare for these changes? Should I focus on understanding my current situation first, or jump straight into scenario planning for 2026?
Welcome to the community! Your question about where to start is really practical and I think many of us have felt that same overwhelm when first diving into tax planning. From everything I've learned in this discussion, I'd suggest starting with understanding your current situation first - specifically gathering information about your income sources, current deductions, state/local tax payments, and any business income if applicable. Once you have a clear picture of where you stand now, the scenario planning becomes much more meaningful. The tax projection tools mentioned earlier in this thread (like the taxr.ai one that several people found helpful) seem like they could be perfect for someone in your situation. They can help you see side-by-side comparisons of current law vs. projected 2026 changes based on your actual numbers, which beats trying to interpret general examples. I'd also recommend focusing on the changes that are most likely to affect you personally rather than trying to understand every single provision. For instance, if you don't have kids, the Child Tax Credit changes won't impact you directly, but if you pay significant state taxes, the SALT deduction return could be huge for your situation. The professionals here seem to agree that 2025 is the year to start planning rather than waiting until 2026 when it might be too late to implement strategies. Better to start with the basics now and build your understanding over time!
I was in your exact shoes last year and completely understand the anxiety! I filed my Section 475(f) election with my 2023 return and spent months worrying about whether it was properly processed. Here's what I learned after going through this: the IRS doesn't send confirmation notices for MTM elections, which is incredibly frustrating but apparently normal. Since your return was accepted through ID.me, that's actually a good sign - it means they processed your return including any attached statements. A few practical tips that helped me: 1. Keep detailed records of everything - your original election statement, certified mail receipts, screenshots of your accepted return status 2. Start implementing MTM accounting immediately for 2024 - track all positions daily and mark them to market on December 31st 3. Prepare to file Schedule C for your trading activity instead of Schedule D The reality is that unless the IRS specifically rejects your election (which they would notify you about), it's considered valid. I know it's nerve-wracking not having definitive confirmation, but based on what you've described, your election should be in effect. I'm now filing my second year under MTM status and it's become much less stressful once you get into the routine. The key is just staying organized with your position tracking and treating your trading as a business from day one.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's actually gone through their second year of MTM filing. The anxiety is real when you're dealing with something this significant for your tax situation. Your point about keeping detailed records really resonates - I've been a bit scattered with my documentation but I'm going to get more organized based on everyone's advice here. The tip about starting MTM accounting immediately for 2024 is especially helpful since I was unsure whether to wait for some kind of confirmation first. One quick question - when you filed your second year (2024 taxes), did you notice any difference in how the IRS processed your return compared to your first MTM year? I'm curious if there are any red flags or additional scrutiny once they see Schedule C trading income versus the typical Schedule D capital gains most people file. Also, did you end up working with a tax professional for your MTM filings, or were you able to handle it yourself with tax software? I'm debating whether the complexity warrants getting professional help.
I went through this exact same anxiety with my Section 475(f) election! Filed it with my 2023 return and spent weeks obsessing over whether it was properly processed since there's no confirmation system. What finally put my mind at ease was understanding that the IRS operates on a "deemed approved unless specifically rejected" basis for these elections. Since your return was accepted and you haven't received any rejection notices, your MTM election is almost certainly valid and in effect. Here's what I wish someone had told me earlier: start implementing MTM accounting practices immediately for 2024. Don't wait for confirmation that will never come. Track your positions daily, maintain detailed records of market values, and prepare to report everything as ordinary business income on Schedule C rather than capital gains. The transition from worrying about election status to actually implementing MTM has been much smoother than I expected. Yes, it requires more detailed record-keeping than traditional capital gains reporting, but the tax benefits (especially full deductibility of losses against ordinary income) make it worthwhile. Keep your certified mail receipt, your election statement copy, and screenshots of your accepted return status. That paper trail is your confirmation. The IRS may not send you a gold star, but your election is valid if properly filed and not rejected. You've got this - the hardest part (making the election and getting through the uncertainty) is behind you!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been in the same boat - filed my Section 475(f) election and have been checking my account status obsessively for weeks. The "deemed approved unless specifically rejected" explanation really helps clarify how the IRS handles these elections. Your point about starting MTM implementation immediately is spot on. I was hesitating to begin the daily position tracking because I kept thinking "what if my election wasn't processed correctly?" But you're right - if it was going to be rejected, I probably would have heard about it by now. I'm curious about the practical side - what software or method do you use for tracking daily position values? I've been manually entering closing prices into a spreadsheet but I'm wondering if there are better tools for managing the mark-to-market calculations, especially as my trading volume increases. Also, thanks for the reassurance about the tax benefits. The ability to fully deduct losses against ordinary income was one of the main reasons I wanted MTM status, but the uncertainty about whether my election was valid had me second-guessing everything. Time to stop worrying and start implementing!
Has anyone dealt with vendors who refuse to provide W9s? We have a few local businesses that get suspicious when we ask, even though we're just trying to follow the rules.
I've run into this a few times. For reluctant vendors, I explain that it's a standard IRS requirement, not something unique we're asking of them. I also emphasize that we need it to continue doing business with them. Sometimes showing them a blank W9 form helps - it only asks for information they already provide to customers (name, address, EIN). For the truly resistant ones, we've occasionally had to find alternative vendors. Better that than dealing with IRS issues later.
Thanks for the advice! I like the idea of showing them the actual form first. You're right that it's pretty basic info they already give out. Maybe I'll create a simple handout explaining the IRS requirement for vendors who seem confused. Our issue is usually with small local businesses who don't deal with this often, not the bigger companies.
I've been following this thread and wanted to share our experience as a mid-sized nonprofit that went through similar W9 confusion last year. We initially had our finance team requesting W9s for every vendor too, but quickly realized it was creating more problems than it solved. What worked for us was implementing a two-tier system: automatic W9 collection for any vendor we expect to pay over $300 annually (giving us a buffer), and quarterly reviews of all vendor payments to catch anyone approaching $600. We use a simple Excel tracker that flags vendors at $400 and $550 thresholds. The key insight was that most of our vendor relationships are either very small (under $100 annually) or clearly going to exceed $600 - there aren't many vendors in that middle ground where tracking becomes tricky. For the 5-10 vendors per year that unexpectedly approach $600, we just request W9s when we notice during our quarterly reviews. This approach reduced our W9 collection efforts by about 80% while maintaining full compliance. Our program staff can focus on service delivery instead of chasing gas stations for tax forms!
@c65f4899104a This is such a practical solution! I'm definitely going to propose this two-tier approach to our board. One quick question - do you find that vendors are more cooperative about providing W9s when you explain it's part of your standard process for vendors over a certain threshold, rather than asking for it reactively after they've already hit $600? I imagine it comes across as more professional and less like you're scrambling to catch up on compliance. Our current ad-hoc approach makes us look disorganized when we suddenly ask established vendors for paperwork they've never heard us mention before.
@c65f4899104a Thanks for the detailed breakdown of your two-tier system! To answer some of the questions others have asked - we set up our Excel tracker to manually pull quarterly data from QuickBooks, which takes about 30 minutes every three months. The $300 buffer has been sufficient in most cases, though we did lower it to $250 for a few vendor categories where spending can spike quickly (like IT services or emergency repairs). For vendor categorization, we typically flag any service contracts, recurring suppliers, or vendors where the initial purchase is over $100 as "likely to exceed $300." One-time small purchases (under $50) rarely make it to that level. You're absolutely right that explaining the W9 requirement upfront as part of our vendor onboarding process gets much better cooperation than asking retroactively. Vendors appreciate the transparency and it positions us as organized rather than scrambling. The seasonal vendor issue is a good point - we do run an additional mid-summer check for landscaping, HVAC, and other seasonal services to catch those irregular patterns. Has saved us from a few surprises!
Angelina Farar
Something no one has mentioned yet - have you considered using a Self-Directed IRA LLC (sometimes called a checkbook IRA) instead of ROBS? It might be better suited for real estate investments and doesn't require setting up a C-corp or dealing with the active business requirement. The downside is you can't personally benefit from the properties or be involved in day-to-day management, but for pure investment purposes it might be a cleaner structure. Just make sure you understand prohibited transaction rules because they're strictly enforced.
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SebastiΓ‘n Stevens
β’I went down this road and the self-directed IRA route has its own complications though. The UBIT (Unrelated Business Income Tax) can kick in if there's debt-financed income from the properties, which often makes leveraged real estate less attractive inside an IRA. Plus, you lose out on depreciation deductions that would otherwise flow through on your personal return.
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Ravi Sharma
I've been following this discussion closely as I'm considering a similar structure. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the potential impact of the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) on ROBS structures. Since your C-corp would likely be considered a "reporting company" under the new beneficial ownership reporting requirements, you'll need to file FinCEN reports disclosing ownership information. This adds another layer of compliance but shouldn't affect the tax treatment of your ROBS. Also, regarding the LLC structure you mentioned - make sure you understand how the K-1 income will be treated at the C-corp level. Since C-corps don't get pass-through treatment, the rental income will be subject to corporate tax rates, and if you later want to access those funds personally, you'll face potential double taxation through dividends. Have you considered whether the rental income strategy makes sense given that corporate tax treatment, or would you be better off with a structure that allows pass-through taxation?
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Haley Stokes
β’That's a really important point about the Corporate Transparency Act that I hadn't considered. As someone new to this whole ROBS concept, I'm starting to realize there are layers of compliance I never even knew existed. The double taxation issue you mentioned is particularly concerning. If I'm understanding correctly, the rental income from the LLC would be taxed at the corporate level first, and then again if I try to distribute any of those profits to myself personally later? That seems like it could significantly eat into the benefits of using the ROBS structure in the first place. Would it make more sense to structure the C-corp's business activities in a way that generates income that can be reinvested back into the business rather than distributed? Or are there other strategies to minimize this double taxation problem?
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