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Last year I just left off a tiny W2 from a place that paid me like $47 because I never got the form and didn't think it mattered. Got a letter from the IRS six months later asking about the discrepancy. Wasn't a huge deal but I had to file an amended return and it was annoying. Just include everything and save yourself the hassle!
Did you have to pay any penalties for leaving it off? I'm in a similar situation right now.
No penalties in my case since the amount was so small and there was no additional tax owed (actually got a tiny refund from the withholding). The IRS was pretty understanding when I explained I never received the W2. They just wanted to match their records with what I filed. The amended return process was straightforward through their online system, just took a few extra weeks to process.
I had a similar situation a few years back with a temp job that lasted only three days. The key thing to remember is that even though the amounts seem tiny, the IRS computer systems will automatically flag any discrepancies between what employers report and what you file. Here's what I'd suggest: First, try logging into those employers' payroll systems online if you still have access - many companies use ADP, Paychex, or similar services where you can download your W2 electronically even after leaving. If that doesn't work, you have until the end of February to receive them by mail before you can take action. If you still don't have them by then, definitely file Form 4852 as others mentioned. The most important thing is to be as accurate as possible with your estimates. Even if you're off by a few dollars, showing good faith effort to report the income properly is what matters to the IRS. One last tip - keep records of all your attempts to get the W2s (emails, phone calls, etc.) in case you ever need to show you made reasonable efforts to obtain the proper documentation.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with something similar right now. One question though - when you say "keep records of all attempts," what exactly should I be documenting? Like should I be taking screenshots of failed login attempts to payroll systems, or is it more about having dates and times of when I called HR departments? I want to make sure I'm covering all my bases in case the IRS asks questions later.
I got audited last year specifically for not reporting my crypto! I had only made about $3,000 in profit and thought it wasn't worth reporting. Big mistake. The IRS sent me a letter asking why I didn't report my cryptocurrency transactions. They didn't say how they knew, but I assume either Coinbase provided info or they noticed deposits to my bank account from Coinbase. The penalties and interest added almost 40% on top of what I owed! Plus I had to pay an accountant to help me deal with the audit. Don't risk it - just report your crypto correctly. The stress of going through an audit was way worse than just paying the taxes would have been.
I'm a CPA and want to emphasize something crucial that hasn't been mentioned yet - the IRS has a "Voluntary Disclosure Practice" that can help if you realize you've made mistakes with crypto reporting in past years. If you're reading this thread and thinking "oh no, I didn't report crypto gains from previous years," you can still come forward voluntarily. The key is doing it BEFORE the IRS contacts you. If you proactively file amended returns and pay what you owe (with interest), they typically won't pursue criminal charges or the harshest penalties. But once they initiate contact with you first, your options become much more limited. For anyone in that situation, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who specializes in crypto before taking any action. The rules are complex and the consequences of handling it wrong can be severe.
Something else to consider - Form 8958 is for allocating income between spouses in community property states, but there are exceptions to the 50/50 split rule. Certain types of income might be considered separate property, not community property. For example, if you received an inheritance, gifts specifically to you, or owned property before marriage, that might be separate property. Also, if you have a valid pre-nuptial agreement that defines certain income as separate, that could change how you fill out this form.
Do you know how disability payments work with this form? I get VA disability which I thought wasn't taxable anyway, but the software is asking me to include it on this form and I'm confused why.
VA disability payments are generally not taxable, so they typically wouldn't need to be included on tax forms related to income allocation. This sounds like an error in the software. The software might be asking you to list all sources of income initially, but then it should recognize that VA disability is non-taxable and exclude it from tax calculations. I'd recommend indicating that it's VA disability specifically when entering it, as most tax programs have special categories for this type of income that will handle it correctly.
Quick tip: the instructions for Form 8958 on the IRS website are actually pretty good. Here's what they say about filling out the columns: "For each line, the amounts in columns (a) and (b) should add up to the combined amount reported on both spouses' returns." So if you earned $80,000 from Company A and it's community income in a community property state, you'd report $40,000 in your column and $40,000 in your spouse's column. Each of you would then report your respective amounts on your separate returns.
This is such a relief to read! I've been stressing about this exact same thing with my single-member LLC. I started paying from my business account but then second-guessed myself and switched to transferring to personal first. Sounds like I was overthinking it completely. The key takeaway I'm getting is that consistency matters more than which specific account you use. I think I'll go back to paying directly from the business account since it's simpler and keeps everything in one place for my records. Just need to make sure I'm categorizing the payments correctly as distributions rather than expenses. Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations - this community is so helpful for navigating these confusing tax situations!
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's been overthinking this! I just started my single-member LLC a few months ago and have been going back and forth on this exact issue. Reading through all these responses has been super helpful - especially the point about categorizing tax payments as distributions rather than expenses. I was definitely worried I might be messing up my books by accidentally treating them as deductible business expenses. Going to stick with paying from my business account too since it seems like the simpler approach for record keeping.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation with my single-member LLC and was completely confused about the tax payment process. Reading everyone's experiences has really clarified things for me. What I'm taking away is that the IRS doesn't distinguish between business and personal accounts for single-member LLCs since they're pass-through entities. The most important thing seems to be proper categorization in your bookkeeping - treating tax payments as owner distributions rather than business expenses to avoid artificially reducing your profit. I think I'll follow the approach several people mentioned of paying directly from my business account for simplicity, but making sure to categorize everything correctly. The separate tax savings account idea also sounds brilliant - I'm definitely going to set that up to automate the process and avoid the quarterly scramble to figure out if I have enough set aside. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions!
This whole discussion has been a lifesaver! I'm brand new to running a single-member LLC (just started 3 months ago) and I've been losing sleep over whether I was handling tax payments correctly. The clarity around treating payments as distributions rather than expenses is huge - I was definitely worried about accidentally messing up my profit calculations. And the separate tax savings account idea is genius! I've been manually calculating and setting aside money each month, but automating that transfer would eliminate so much stress. One follow-up question though - for those of you who pay directly from the business account, do you make quarterly payments via check, online transfer, or does it matter? I've been writing physical checks but wondering if there's a more efficient way to handle it.
Sean Flanagan
This discrepancy between SBTPG's phone system and website is unfortunately very common and nothing to worry about! I went through this exact same thing a few weeks ago and it drove me absolutely crazy. The phone system updates in real-time when the IRS releases your refund to SBTPG, while their website seems to run on some ancient batch processing system that can lag 24-72 hours behind. When you hear "paid" on the phone, that's the reliable indicator - it means your refund is in SBTPG's hands and will typically hit your bank account within 1-3 business days. I'd recommend setting up mobile banking alerts so you know the moment it arrives, because the SBTPG website will probably still be showing "unfunded" even after your money is already deposited! Just try to be patient (easier said than done, I know) and check your bank account rather than obsessing over their website updates.
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Fiona Sand
ā¢This is so helpful to hear from someone who just went through this! I've been checking that SBTPG website obsessively and driving myself nuts. Going to set up those mobile banking alerts right now - that's such a smart idea. It's crazy how their systems can be so out of sync in 2025, but at least now I know the phone status is the one to trust. Thanks for the reassurance!
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Amelia Cartwright
I went through this exact same nightmare last year! The SBTPG phone system told me "paid" for THREE DAYS while their website kept showing "unfunded" - I was starting to think I was losing my mind. Turns out their website is just ridiculously slow to update. What helped me stay sane was calling my bank directly to ask if they had any pending deposits coming in. My bank could actually see the ACH transfer was in progress before SBTPG's website ever updated. The money showed up on a Wednesday morning, and their website STILL said "unfunded" until Thursday afternoon. It's honestly embarrassing how outdated their web systems are compared to their phone system. My advice? Trust the phone status and maybe give your bank a call to see if they can spot any incoming transfers. At least then you'll have a third source of information to help triangulate what's actually happening!
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