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I'm not convinced the PATH Act is even working as intended anymore. Seems like it just delays EVERYONE's refunds with these credits rather than actually stopping fraud. My friend filed with just standard deductions (no EIC) and got her refund in 8 days, while I'm still waiting after 6 weeks. ๐ Is this really stopping fraud or just punishing people who qualify for EIC?
The PATH Act specifically targets EITC, CTC, and AOTC claims due to historically high improper payment rates. According to Treasury Inspector General data, approximately 25% of EITC payments were improper before PATH implementation. The mandated verification period allows for cross-referencing of W-2 and 1099 data against claimed credits. While frustrating for legitimate claimants, the hold period is a procedural necessity within the IRS's Refund Fraud Assessment System (RFAS) and Return Review Program (RRP) frameworks.
This is incredibly informative! I had no idea about the specific verification systems they use. The 25% improper payment rate really puts things in perspective - I can see why they implemented these measures even though they're frustrating for those of us waiting.
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I believe I may have figured this out after experiencing it myself. The TurboTax advance approval and IRS processing are completely separate systems. What's probably happening is: 1. Your return was accepted by the IRS (transmission successful) 2. TurboTax's bank partner approved your advance based on their criteria 3. Your return is likely in the IRS processing queue but hasn't been assigned to a processing batch yet I would suggest checking your transcript weekly rather than daily. In my experience, it might not show any updates for 3-4 weeks, then suddenly update with everything at once. Unless you receive a specific notice from the IRS, this is most likely just normal processing delays during peak season.
I'm sort of in a similar situation, I think? I was approved for the advance but only received about half of what they estimated. My transcript finally updated yesterday after about 35 days of waiting, and it looks like they might be making some adjustments to my return. Maybe check if you qualified for the full advance amount? Sometimes if there's an issue with certain credits, it could possibly delay processing, but I'm not entirely sure if that's always the case.
Here's exactly what happens in this situation: Step 1: The bank rejects the direct deposit and returns it to the IRS (3-5 days) Step 2: IRS processes the return and marks it in their system (5-7 days) Step 3: IRS schedules a paper check to be printed (3-5 days) Step 4: Check prints and goes to USPS (2-3 days) Step 5: USPS delivers your check (3-7 days) Total time: 16-27 days from when the deposit failed. Since you already called, you've initiated step 2, which helps speed things up.
I believe the process may be slightly more efficient now, particularly if you've spoken with a knowledgeable agent. In certain cases, the IRS can expedite steps 2-3 when there's a demonstrated financial hardship, though this typically requires additional documentation.
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According to IRM 21.4.1.5.7 (Internal Revenue Manual), does the 14-day waiting period for a replacement refund still apply when the original refund was returned due to a closed account? Or is that only for lost/stolen checks?
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I had this happen on March 14th this year. Called the IRS on March 16th. My transcript updated on March 23rd showing the rejected direct deposit. A new 846 code with a paper check date appeared on March 30th. Received my check on April 4th. So that was exactly 21 days from my call to check in hand. Your experience may vary, but that's a recent timeline for comparison.
Based on my experience helping others in this community, here's what I've observed: - 78% of e-filed returns show on transcripts within 21 days - Another 15% appear between days 22-35 - The remaining 7% can take 36+ days, especially during peak season Since you filed on March 12, you're currently at day 21. I'd give it another 7-10 days before getting concerned. The fact that WMR shows "Return Received" is a good sign - the systems just haven't synced up yet. I understand the anxiety of waiting, especially when planning finances.
I've been filing taxes for over 20 years, and I've noticed the transcript update timing has gotten much less predictable in recent years. Back in 2018, my transcript updated exactly 14 days after filing, like clockwork. Last year, I filed February 1st and my transcript didn't update until March 3rd, but my refund was deposited just 4 days later. The transcript system seems to be the last thing that updates in their process now.
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Mine took 25 days. Filed February 5. Transcript updated March 2. Refund deposited March 5. No issues with return. Normal processing time. Don't worry yet. Check weekly not daily.
I'm skeptical of anyone saying there's a consistent timeline for paper returns this year. Have you checked if your local Taxpayer Assistance Center is taking appointments? When did you mail it exactly? What forms did you include? Some paper returns are taking 12+ weeks this season, especially with the staffing issues the IRS is still facing. I always recommend e-filing whenever possible for this exact reason.
I appreciate the realistic perspective. Sometimes waiting is just part of the process, especially with paper returns.
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Paper returns are absolutely the slowest option. Period. The IRS is still digging out from their pandemic backlog. Most paper returns are taking 8-12 weeks minimum before they even show up in the system. Certified mail only proves they received it - doesn't speed up processing at all. You should be checking your account transcript, not your return transcript. The account transcript will update first. Don't waste time calling until it's been at least 8 weeks.
Think of the 'as of' date like a doctor's appointment reminder. Just because your next checkup is scheduled for May doesn't mean you can't get better before then! The IRS sets these dates as administrative markers, but your refund is like a package that can arrive ahead of schedule. I've seen many cases where refunds are deposited well before the 'as of' date, especially for straightforward returns without complications. If your return is like a smooth highway drive (no errors, no special credits), you'll likely get there faster than the GPS initially estimated.
OMG I was FREAKING OUT about this exact thing last month! My transcript showed April 29th as the 'as of' date but I got my refund on April 14th! I was so relieved because I needed that money for car repairs! The feeling when I checked my bank account and saw the deposit was amazing! The 'as of' date is definitely not the actual refund date in many cases. Just keep checking your bank account daily - that's what I did and it helped ease my anxiety about the whole process.
I've been dealing with PATH Act delays since it started. Remember when we could file in January and get our refunds within a week or two? Those days are long gone. I've learned to just assume February 27th is the earliest possible date for any refund with EITC. Why even allow filing before February if they're just going to hold everything anyway? My experience shows that filing early vs. filing February 10th makes zero difference in when you get paid.
Has anyone noticed if the PATH delay affects state refunds too? Last year my federal was held up but my state came through much earlier. Is that typical or just luck?
Be extremely careful about timing expectations this tax season! On January 30th, 2024, I filed with similar gig income, couldn't access transcripts, and assumed everything was fine. By February 15th, still no transcript access. When I finally reached the IRS on March 2nd, they informed me my return had been flagged for income verification due to a mismatch between my reported 1099 amounts and what their system showed. This delayed my refund by 8 weeks! If you don't see transcript access by February 14th (that's this coming week), I strongly recommend taking proactive steps to check your status rather than waiting.
Don't panic yet. The IRS transcript system and the processing system are separate. Direct from experience: I've filed with gig income for 3 years straight. Transcripts ALWAYS take longer to update than WMR. Check Where's My Refund first. If it shows received, you're good. Most gig workers I know see transcript updates 14-21 days after acceptance. The real concern would be if WMR doesn't recognize your info at all - that would indicate a potential problem.
I'm sort of in a similar situation, but maybe with a slight difference? My husband and I filed jointly, but we requested a paper check instead of direct deposit. Does anyone know if I would be able to deposit this check into my individual account, or would we both need to endorse it? I'm a bit worried because I think paper checks might have different rules than direct deposits, possibly?
Don't panic. This happens all the time. The banking system handles millions of these deposits every tax season. Your refund will go through fine. I've had joint refunds deposited to my individual account for years with no problems. Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo - they all handle this the same way. The Treasury Department sends the money based on account numbers, not names. Focus on planning how you'll use that refund instead of worrying about whether it will arrive.
GalacticGladiator
Before panicking about identity verification, try checking your tax transcript! Back in 2022, I had the same PATH message, but my transcript showed cycle codes that indicated normal processing. The WMR tool is notoriously vague compared to what your actual transcript shows. Look for codes 570/971 which might indicate an actual issue, versus just seeing the standard PATH delay codes. If you filed early in the season, you're probably just in the standard queue that started moving after February 15th.
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Ethan Brown
I'd like to clarify something about the transcript approach. While it's definitely helpful, not everyone can access their transcript online due to the IRS verification requirements. If you can't get your transcript, don't worry - it doesn't mean there's a problem with your return. The PATH delay affects millions of returns each year, and the vast majority process without requiring any action from the taxpayer.
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Yuki Yamamoto
I filed on January 29th this year. Got PATH message immediately. Stayed that way until March 2nd. Then it changed to approved. Got my deposit on March 7th. No verification needed. The PATH message is normal. It's just frustrating. The IRS won't even look at returns with certain credits until February 15th. Then they process in order received. Your date matters.
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Carmen Ruiz
This timeline is so helpful. Exact dates make it easier to understand. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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