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21 Has anyone else noticed that the IRS instructions for the 1099-NEC form specifically exclude "payments made with a credit card or payment card and certain other types of payments, including third-party network transactions"? That seems to clearly indicate that PayPal business payments don't need 1099s from you. But then there's confusion about what qualifies as a "third-party network transaction" versus a direct payment. From what I understand after researching this extensively: PayPal business/goods & services = No 1099-NEC needed from you PayPal friends & family = Yes, 1099-NEC needed from you Venmo business = No 1099-NEC needed from you Venmo personal = Yes, 1099-NEC needed from you Bank wire/Zelle = Yes, 1099-NEC needed from you

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10 This summarizes it perfectly! My accountant charged me $300 to tell me basically this exact same information. The key is whether the payment was processed as a card transaction/third-party network or as a direct transfer of funds.

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Lucas Parker

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a freelance graphic designer who also occasionally hires subcontractors, so I'm on both sides of this 1099 issue. One thing I wanted to add based on my experience: make sure you're documenting the payment method clearly in your records. Last year I had a contractor who I paid through both PayPal Business (for most payments) and Venmo personal (for a small rush job). When tax time came, I almost forgot about that Venmo payment and would have missed issuing a 1099 for it. Also, for anyone using multiple payment methods with the same contractor throughout the year - you still need to aggregate all payments when determining if you hit the $600 threshold. So if you paid someone $400 through PayPal Business and $300 through Venmo personal, you'd need to issue a 1099 for the $300 Venmo portion since the total exceeded $600. The IRS doesn't care that part of their income will be reported on a 1099-K from PayPal - you're still responsible for reporting the direct payment portion on a 1099-NEC.

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Isaiah Cross

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That's such a good point about aggregating payments across different methods! I hadn't thought about that scenario. So if I understand correctly, you'd issue a 1099-NEC for just the $300 Venmo portion, not the full $700 total? And would you need to note somewhere that the total payments to that contractor were higher than what's shown on the 1099-NEC? Also, your documentation tip is spot on. I've been keeping a simple spreadsheet with contractor name, payment date, amount, and method - but I'm realizing I should probably add a column for "1099 required" to make tax time easier next year.

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Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but has anyone claimed the credit for a used EV or PHEV? I'm looking at a 2022 Chevy Bolt and wondering if I can get any tax benefits for buying used instead of new?

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Diego Flores

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Yes, there is a separate credit for used clean vehicles! It's up to 30% of the sale price or $4,000, whichever is less. To qualify: - The vehicle must be at least 2 years old - Price must be $25,000 or less - It must be the first transfer of the used vehicle since August 16, 2022 - You must buy from a dealer (not private party) - There are income limits ($75,000 for single filers, $112,500 for head of household, $150,000 for joint) - You can only claim this credit once every 3 years A 2022 Bolt would qualify if the price is under $25,000, but double-check all the other requirements too!

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Cameron Black

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed responses! This has been super helpful. Just to summarize what I've learned for anyone else in a similar situation: 1. Regular hybrids (like a standard Prius) DON'T qualify - only plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) do 2. PHEVs need at least 7 kWh battery capacity to qualify 3. The credit amount varies by vehicle due to battery sourcing requirements - could be $3,750 or $7,500 4. You can either claim it on your taxes OR get it as an immediate discount at the dealership 5. Always verify with the IRS list rather than just trusting what dealers tell you I'm definitely going to check out that IRS qualified vehicles list before I go shopping this weekend. Sounds like I need to focus on plug-in hybrids specifically, not regular hybrids. Really appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences - way more helpful than the generic info I was finding online!

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This is such a great summary! I'm actually in the exact same boat - was looking at regular hybrids but now realize I need to focus on plug-ins if I want the tax credit. One thing I'm still curious about though - do you know if there are any state incentives that stack on top of the federal credit? I'm in California and wondering if I could potentially get even more savings beyond the federal $3,750-$7,500. Thanks for pulling all this info together in one place!

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Morita Montoya

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The IRS systems r so broken its actually hilarious. Why cant they just let us add forms after submission like normal people 🤮

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fr fr its like they living in 1985 still

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Emma Johnson

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This happened to me two years ago! The rejection came back in about 36 hours, and then I had to wait another 3 weeks for processing after resubmitting with the correct forms. Definitely frustrating, but at least you caught it early. Make sure your preparer double-checks everything before resubmitting - you don't want to go through this twice!

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CyberNinja

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3 weeks is brutal! 😩 Did you have any issues with your refund timing because of the delay? I'm really hoping this doesn't mess up my whole timeline

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I work at a tax prep office and can share some insider info - H&R Block releases new promotional codes throughout tax season, but they're usually tied to specific marketing campaigns or partnerships. The codes that work best are usually: 1) Military/veteran discounts (these rarely expire), 2) Student discounts through .edu email verification, 3) Partner codes from banks, credit unions, or employers, and 4) Social media flash codes they post on their official accounts. One thing most people don't know is that if you're filing multiple state returns, you can often get a bundle discount by calling their sales line directly. They have quotas to meet and will sometimes negotiate, especially later in tax season. Also, if you're already deep into your return like you are, try reaching out to their chat support and explaining you're a returning customer who's comparing prices with competitors. They often have "retention codes" they can apply to keep you from switching to another service.

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Ava Thompson

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This is really helpful insider information! I'm curious about the retention codes - do you know if there's a specific way to phrase the request to chat support that works better? Like should I mention specific competitor names or just say I'm "shopping around"? Also, do those partner codes from banks usually require you to log in through the bank's website first, or can you just use the code directly on H&R Block's site? I have accounts with a few credit unions but never thought to check if they had tax prep partnerships.

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Ravi Malhotra

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For retention codes, I've found it works best to be specific but not aggressive. Something like "I've been using H&R Block for 3 years but I'm seeing TurboTax advertised at $X less for the same filing level. Is there any discount you can offer to match that price?" Usually gets better results than just saying you're shopping around. For bank/credit union partnerships, it depends. Some require you to start from their website (like chase.com/taxes or whatever), while others just give you a standalone code you can use directly. Check your credit union's website under "member benefits" or "partner discounts" - that's usually where they list tax prep deals. One more tip from our office: if you're filing late in the season (after March), they often have "tax deadline rush" promotions that can be better than the early season codes. H&R Block would rather get your business at a discount than lose you to a competitor entirely.

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AstroAce

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This is such great advice! I had no idea about the late season promotions. I'm actually filing pretty close to the deadline this year because I was waiting on some 1099s that came in late. Sounds like that might work in my favor for once! Quick question about the retention approach - when you mention a competitor price, do they actually verify that or just take your word for it? I want to be honest but also don't want to spend time researching exact competitor pricing if they're just going to offer a standard retention discount anyway. Also wondering if anyone has tried this approach with their online chat vs phone support? I usually prefer chat but not sure if the phone reps have more flexibility with discounts.

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Kayla Morgan

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My sister was a surrogate in 2022 and she DID report the income on her taxes. She reported it as self-employment income on Schedule C, and yes, had to pay both income tax and self-employment tax on it. She was able to deduct some business expenses like special maternity clothes she wouldn't have otherwise needed, mileage to medical appointments, and a portion of her phone bill for surrogacy-related communications. But the base compensation was definitely treated as taxable income.

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James Maki

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Was your sister able to deduct any of the medical expenses related to the pregnancy itself? I've heard conflicting information about this.

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StarSailor

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As someone who's been through a similar situation, I'd strongly recommend consulting with a tax professional who has experience with unusual income situations. The general consensus here is correct - surrogacy compensation is taxable income that should be reported on Schedule C. One thing I learned is that you'll want to keep detailed records of everything related to the surrogacy arrangement. This includes the contract, payment records, any medical expenses you incurred that weren't reimbursed, and documentation of business-related expenses like travel to appointments. The fact that the agency casually mentioned that "most surrogates don't report it" is concerning. Even if that's true, it doesn't make it legal. The IRS considers all income taxable unless there's a specific exclusion, and there's no exclusion for surrogacy compensation. Better to pay the taxes now than face penalties, interest, and potential legal issues later if you're audited. Also consider setting aside about 25-30% of the compensation for taxes if you haven't already, since you'll owe both income tax and self-employment tax on the full amount.

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This is really helpful advice. I'm curious - when you went through this, did you end up owing estimated taxes since there was no withholding? We're worried about getting hit with underpayment penalties since this is such a large amount of additional income for the year that we weren't expecting to owe taxes on initially.

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