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Owen Jenkins

Do I need to file separate tax return for Revocable Trust with EIN or just use my SSN?

I recently set up a revocable trust and went ahead and got an EIN from the IRS for it. I know technically this wasn't required since it's a revocable trust, but I specifically wanted to open bank accounts under the trust's EIN rather than using my personal social security number. Now I'm second-guessing myself about tax filing season coming up. The main thing I'm confused about is whether I've accidentally created more paperwork for myself. Since this is a revocable trust and I'm the grantor, can I still just file my personal taxes using my SSN like normal? Or do I now need to prepare a separate tax return for the trust using that EIN? I'm hoping I can avoid the extra hassle since all the income from the trust would flow through to my personal taxes anyway, but I don't want to mess up and have the IRS flagging me for not filing something I should have. Anyone have experience with this situation? I'd really appreciate any guidance!

Lilah Brooks

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You're perfectly fine filing just your personal tax return using your SSN. With a revocable trust, you're making the right assumption - since you're the grantor of the trust, all income generated by assets in the trust flows directly to you for tax purposes. The IRS considers revocable trusts as "grantor trusts" which means they're essentially ignored for federal income tax purposes. The EIN you obtained is useful exactly for what you intended - opening bank accounts and other administrative purposes. Getting the EIN doesn't change the tax treatment of your trust. The bank may issue 1099s with the trust's EIN, but you'll just report that income on your personal tax return using your SSN. Just make sure you keep good records connecting the income reported under the trust's EIN with what you're reporting on your personal return, in case of any questions later.

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Thanks for this explanation! I have a somewhat similar situation but I was told I needed to file a 1041 form for my revocable trust. Is that wrong? Also, do I need to do anything special to connect the income from the trust EIN to my personal taxes?

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Lilah Brooks

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You generally don't need to file a Form 1041 for a typical revocable living trust where you're the grantor and trustee. The exception would be if there are special circumstances like multiple beneficiaries currently receiving income or if the trust has become irrevocable due to your incapacity or death. As for connecting the income, you don't need a special form. Just keep your records organized by saving statements that show income to the trust. If you receive 1099s with the trust's EIN, you'll simply include that income on the appropriate schedules of your personal 1040 as if it were issued directly to you. Some people find it helpful to prepare a simple worksheet listing all income items reported under the trust's EIN that are being included on their personal return, just for their own records.

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Evelyn Rivera

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One thing to watch out for that nobody mentioned - if you have a mortgage or other debt inside your revocable trust, sometimes lenders will report the interest paid under the trust's EIN. I had this happen and got a 1098 with my trust's EIN instead of my SSN. Still reported it on Schedule A of my personal return, but I included a note explaining the EIN mismatch. Never heard anything back from the IRS about it, so I guess it was fine. Might be worth checking if you have any debt in the name of your trust.

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Owen Jenkins

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This is a really good point, thanks for mentioning it! I do have some investments in the trust that could generate 1099s. Do you just attach a simple note to your tax return explaining the EIN situation, or is there a more formal way to handle this?

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I just typed up a brief statement that said "The mortgage interest deduction claimed on Schedule A includes $X,XXX reported on Form 1098 issued to [Trust Name], EIN XX-XXXXXXX. This is a revocable grantor trust and I am the grantor, SSN XXX-XX-XXXX." And I attached it as a PDF with my e-filed return. My tax software (TurboTax) had an option to add explanatory statements. If you're working with a tax preparer, they'll know how to handle it. The key is just making sure there's a clear connection between the income/deductions reported under the trust's EIN and what appears on your personal return.

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Yara Campbell

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I'm actually a bit confused by some of the responses here. My accountant had me file a Form 1041 for my revocable trust with an EIN, but checked the box that it was a grantor trust and attached a grantor trust statement. He said this was required whenever a trust has its own EIN, even if it's revocable. Am I getting bad advice? I'm paying for an extra tax return each year that others here are saying isn't necessary.

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Lilah Brooks

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Your accountant is taking an extra-cautious approach that isn't strictly necessary in most cases. The IRS instructions for Form 1041 state that "a grantor trust with a U.S. owner generally isn't required to file Form 1041" if the trust provides statements to all payors that the owner is the one who should receive tax forms. However, some grantor trusts do file a 1041 for information purposes (often called a "substitute 1041"), especially if they received income documents under the trust's EIN. It's an administrative choice rather than a requirement. Your accountant is being conservative, which isn't wrong, but you could potentially save the preparation fees by skipping it and just reporting everything on your 1040. I'd suggest asking your accountant why they specifically recommend this approach for your trust - there might be unique circumstances they're accounting for.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar boat with a revocable trust and EIN, and it's reassuring to see that I don't need to file a separate 1041. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else reading this - make sure to notify your financial institutions that your trust is a grantor trust for tax reporting purposes. I had to send letters to my bank and brokerage firm with my trust's EIN requesting that they issue all 1099s under my personal SSN instead. Most institutions have procedures for this, but you need to be proactive about it. If you don't do this and end up with 1099s under the trust's EIN, you'll need to include explanatory statements with your personal tax return like others mentioned. It's much cleaner to get the 1099s issued correctly from the start. The IRS has specific guidance on this in Publication 559 if anyone wants the official details. @Owen Jenkins - definitely get ahead of this for next year's tax season if you haven't already contacted your financial institutions!

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This is excellent advice about notifying financial institutions! I wish I had known this before I set up my trust accounts. I've been dealing with the hassle of getting 1099s under my trust's EIN and then having to explain the connection on my tax return. Quick question - when you sent those letters to your bank and brokerage, did you need to include any specific documentation like a copy of your trust agreement, or was a simple letter sufficient? I'm planning to do this for next year and want to make sure I include everything they'll need to make the switch. Also, has anyone had issues with institutions refusing to make this change? I'm wondering if some banks are more cooperative than others about issuing forms under your SSN instead of the trust's EIN.

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