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I'm still confused about this. Can I claim exempt just for December when I'm working all that overtime, then switch it back in January? Or is exempt an all-year thing?
You're misunderstanding how the exempt status works. Claiming "exempt" isn't something you do just for high-income periods. It's a declaration that you expect to have ZERO tax liability for the ENTIRE tax year. If you expect to owe any federal income tax for the year as a whole, you cannot legally claim exempt for any part of the year, even for just one pay period. The IRS looks at your tax situation annually, not month by month.
I see a lot of confusion here about withholding vs. exemptions. Let me try to clear this up from a practical standpoint. The "exempt" checkbox on your W-4 is NOT a tool for managing cash flow during busy seasons. It's a very specific declaration that you expect ZERO federal tax liability for the entire year. This typically only applies to people earning very little (below the standard deduction threshold). If you're working overtime during the holidays and expect to owe taxes for the year, here are your legitimate options: 1. Adjust your withholding allowances on your W-4 to have less tax taken out (but still some) 2. Use the IRS withholding calculator or tools like those mentioned above to find the right balance 3. Accept that you'll get a larger refund when you file, but have less take-home pay now The key is being honest about your expected annual income. If you'll owe taxes for the year, claiming exempt is tax fraud, even if it's just for December. The IRS doesn't care that you need more cash for the holidays - they care about accurate withholding based on your actual tax situation. Better to adjust your withholding legally than risk penalties and a massive tax bill later.
I'm currently going through something similar with a different type of notice, and what I've learned is that the IRS systems are frustratingly inconsistent. From my experience, CP2000 notices specifically seem to have the longest delay before appearing online - sometimes they never show up at all in your online account. The transcript method that Rita mentioned is definitely your best bet for getting ahead of this. I'd also recommend calling your local post office to confirm your address is correct in their system, since address mix-ups seem to be more common than we'd expect. Don't rely solely on the online account for something this important - the physical mail is still their primary method for these types of notices.
Thanks for the advice about checking with the post office - that's something I hadn't thought of! I've been so focused on the IRS systems that I didn't consider delivery issues on the postal side. Given all the inconsistencies everyone's mentioned, I'm starting to think the safest approach is to assume the physical mail is the authoritative source and treat the online account as a backup. It's frustrating that in 2024 we still can't rely on their digital systems to be comprehensive and timely, but at least now I know what to expect.
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like the IRS mail/online integration is unfortunately hit-or-miss. For CP2000 notices specifically, I'd recommend a multi-pronged approach: 1) Check your transcript weekly using Rita's method to watch for transaction codes, 2) Verify your address is current with both the IRS and USPS, and 3) Don't panic if it takes longer than the 10 days they quoted - mail delivery times have been inconsistent lately. The transcript will likely show activity before you receive the physical notice, which should give you a heads up to prepare your medical expense documentation. Keep checking both systems, but definitely don't rely solely on the online account for something this important.
This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with IRS correspondence and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the different systems and potential delays everyone's mentioned. The multi-pronged approach makes a lot of sense - I had no idea about checking transcripts for transaction codes before the actual notice arrives. One quick question: when you say "verify your address is current with both the IRS and USPS," how do you actually update your address with the IRS if needed? Is that something you can do through the online account, or do you need to file a separate form?
FreeTaxUSA actually handles these retirement plan situations really well. I've had a similar setup with multiple retirement accounts including a non-qualified supplemental plan for years. One thing to watch for - make sure when entering your W2, you click the "additional information" section to enter Box 11 data. Some tax software hides the less common boxes and if you don't specifically look for them, you might miss entering that information. Also, if you're concerned about FICA taxes, remember that contributions to qualified plans like 401k reduce your FICA wages, but contributions to non-qualified plans (probably your supplemental retirement plan) do not reduce FICA wages. That's just how the tax code works.
Do you know if TurboTax handles this the same way? I've got a similar situation but I've always used TurboTax and don't want to switch software mid-tax season. Also, is there any way to check if my employer calculated the FICA taxes correctly?
Yes, TurboTax handles this similarly - you'll just need to make sure you expand all the W2 entry fields to include Box 11. They sometimes hide the less common boxes under an "advanced" or "show more" section. To check if your employer calculated FICA taxes correctly, look at your last paystub of the year and verify the total Social Security tax is 6.2% of your earnings up to the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2025) and Medicare is 1.45% of all earnings (plus an additional 0.9% on earnings over $200,000). If your Supplemental Retirement Plan is non-qualified, contributions should not have reduced your FICA taxable wages. If something seems off, your HR or payroll department should be able to provide a detailed breakdown.
I went through something very similar last year with my university benefits package! The key thing to understand is that Box 11 and Box 2 serve completely different purposes - comparing them directly doesn't really make sense. Box 11 shows distributions from your Supplemental Retirement Plan (which is likely a non-qualified deferred compensation plan), while Box 2 is just the federal income tax that was withheld from your paychecks throughout the year. The Box 11 amount represents actual money you received from the plan, which is why it can be much larger than your tax withholding. For FICA taxes, here's what matters: your regular 401k contributions reduce your FICA taxable wages, but your Supplemental Retirement Plan contributions typically don't. This is because non-qualified plans are subject to FICA taxes when you earn the money, not when you receive distributions later. When entering everything in FreeTaxUSA, make sure you input all the boxes from your W2 accurately - the software is designed to handle these multiple retirement plan scenarios correctly. The Box 11 amount should already be reflected in your Box 1 wages, so you won't be double-taxed on it. Your situation sounds completely normal for someone with multiple retirement benefits through a university!
This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding retirement benefits and had no idea there was such a difference between qualified and non-qualified plans. So just to make sure I understand - when I contribute to my regular 401k, it reduces both my income tax AND my FICA taxes for that year. But when I contribute to the Supplemental Retirement Plan, I still pay FICA taxes on that money right away, even though I might not receive the distribution until later? Also, does this mean that when I eventually do receive distributions from my Supplemental plan (like what's showing in Box 11), I won't owe FICA taxes on those distributions since I already paid them when I earned the money originally?
One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you do decide to get married, make sure to update your W-4 withholdings at work! Many couples forget this step and end up owing money at tax time or getting a huge refund (which means you gave the government an interest-free loan all year). With your combined income of $120,000 and a baby on the way, your tax situation will be quite different than when you were both single. The IRS has a good withholding calculator on their website, or you can use the new W-4 form which has been redesigned to be more accurate for married couples. Also, don't forget about Dependent Care FSA if either of your employers offers it - you can set aside up to $5,000 pre-tax for daycare expenses once the baby arrives. This is separate from the child care tax credit and can provide additional savings!
This is such an important point that gets overlooked! I made this mistake when I got married mid-year and ended up owing like $1,800 at tax time because we were both still withholding as single people. The IRS withholding calculator is definitely helpful, but just be aware it can be a bit confusing to navigate if you're not used to tax terminology. Also, quick tip - if you do update your W-4s, try to do it at the same time so you don't end up with one person over-withholding and the other under-withholding. Makes the math easier to track!
Great advice from everyone so far! As someone who works in tax prep, I'd add one more consideration that often gets overlooked - timing your wedding date strategically within December if you do decide to get married this year. Since your tax filing status is determined by December 31st, you could literally get married on December 31st and still file as married for the entire 2024 tax year. This gives you almost the full year to see how your finances actually play out before making the commitment. Also, with a baby due in May 2025, consider that you'll be eligible for the Child and Dependent Care Credit starting in 2025 if you have childcare expenses. This credit can be worth up to $2,100 for one child (20-35% of up to $8,000 in expenses, depending on your income). Combined with the Child Tax Credit of up to $2,000, having a child provides significant tax benefits. One last tip: if you do get married, make sure both of you understand the "kiddie tax" rules won't apply here since we're talking about your own child, but do keep documentation of all baby-related medical expenses throughout 2025 - some may be deductible if they exceed the threshold for medical expense deductions.
This is really helpful advice, especially about the December 31st timing! I had no idea you could get married literally on the last day of the year and still get the tax benefits for the whole year. That's such a smart way to have almost 12 months to evaluate your financial situation before committing. Quick question about the Child and Dependent Care Credit - does that $8,000 expense limit reset each year, or is there a lifetime cap? Also, do expenses like diapers and formula count, or is it strictly for childcare providers like daycare centers and babysitters? With a May baby, we'd probably have about 7-8 months of potential expenses in 2025, so want to make sure we're tracking the right things!
Yuki Tanaka
Just went thru this! That taxr.ai tool someone mentioned above is actually legit - told me exactly when my 420 would clear and it was spot on. Way better than waiting on hold with IRS for hours
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Esmeralda GΓ³mez
β’how long did yours end up taking to resolve?
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Yuki Tanaka
β’about 75 days total but the AI told me that from the start based on my transcript codes
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Emma Bianchi
Code 420 can be frustrating but hang in there! I'd recommend calling the Practitioner Priority Service line if you have a tax pro helping you, or try calling early morning (7-8am) for shorter wait times. Also keep checking your transcript weekly - sometimes the codes update before you get any mail. The fact that you only had W2 and child tax credit makes it likely just a routine verification that should clear up relatively quickly.
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Mei Chen
β’Thanks for the tip about calling early morning! I've been dreading calling the IRS but 7-8am sounds way better than the horror stories I've heard about being on hold all day. Definitely going to try that this week and start checking my transcript more regularly too.
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