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good luck getting thru tho. been on hold for 2 hrs today already
Been dealing with this exact same issue! My transcript shows 846 code but WMR is still stuck on "processing" - it's so frustrating when you need that money ASAP. From what I've learned lurking here, if your transcript doesn't show "DPC" next to the 846 code, you're probably getting a paper check. Also check if there's any freeze codes (like 971 or 570) that might indicate why they switched from DD to check. The IRS systems are definitely not synced up properly between transcript and WMR updates š
@Sean Kelly this is super helpful! I didn t'know about the DPC thing next to the 846 code. Just checked my transcript and no DPC so looks like I m'getting a check too š Do you know roughly how long it takes for the check to arrive once the 846 code shows up? I m'in the same boat needing this money urgently
I've been through this exact scenario twice now, and everyone here is giving you solid advice. The one-day interest penalty really is minimal - probably less than what you'd spend on lunch. One additional tip that helped me: if you use a tax preparation service next year, mention this late payment upfront when you meet with them. Most preparers have seen this situation countless times and can quickly calculate the interest owed. They'll also make sure it's properly reported on your return so you don't get any surprise notices from the IRS later. The psychological stress of thinking you messed up is honestly worse than the actual financial impact. You caught the mistake, you understand what happened, and now you know to double-check those settlement dates in the future. That's really all there is to it!
This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear! You're so right that the psychological stress is way worse than the actual penalty. I've been losing sleep over what amounts to maybe $5 at most. Good call on mentioning it upfront to a tax preparer - I usually do my own taxes but might consider getting professional help this year just to make sure everything is handled correctly. Better to pay a professional fee than worry about getting it wrong again. Thanks for putting this whole situation in perspective. Sometimes you need to hear from people who've actually been there to realize you're overthinking things!
I just want to echo what everyone else has said - you're definitely overthinking this! I made the exact same mistake with my Q4 payment last year (scheduled it for 1/16 instead of 1/15) and spent weeks stressing about it. The actual penalty ended up being $2.18 on a $3,200 payment. When I filed my taxes, I just entered the correct payment date in my tax software and it automatically calculated the interest. No forms to fill out, no special procedures - the software handled everything. The IRS gets thousands of these one-day-late payments every quarter. Their systems are completely set up to handle it automatically. You'll get a tiny interest charge when you file, you'll pay it along with any other taxes owed (or it'll reduce your refund slightly), and that's it. Save yourself the stress and just make a note to be more careful with dates next time. The financial impact is essentially nothing compared to the mental energy you're spending worrying about it!
Do high income celebrities ever leave California to move to states with no income tax? If I was paying millions in state taxes alone, I'd seriously consider moving to Texas or Florida.
Absolutely! Many have moved to avoid California's 13.3% tax. Joe Rogan made headlines when he moved to Texas specifically for tax reasons. Florida has become popular too. But CA tax authorities are notorious for auditing people who claim they've moved - they'll check your cell phone records, credit card usage, and even utility bills to verify you actually changed your residency.
This is a fascinating discussion! As someone who works in tax preparation, I can confirm that celebrities like Tom Hanks face incredibly complex tax situations. One aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT), which often kicks in for high earners and can actually increase their effective tax rate even further. Also, don't forget about self-employment taxes! If Tom Hanks is operating through a loan-out corporation as mentioned earlier, he might avoid some SE taxes, but if he's treated as self-employed, that's an additional 15.3% on the first $160,200 of income (for 2023). The timing of income recognition is huge too - many actors negotiate to defer portions of their compensation to future years when they might be in lower tax brackets or have moved to more tax-friendly states. It's really a chess game between their financial advisors and the tax code!
Great point about the AMT! I never really understood how that worked for high earners. So even after all their deductions and tax planning strategies, celebrities can still get hit with AMT that essentially ignores those deductions? That seems like it could really catch people off guard if they're not planning for it. Also curious - when you mention deferring compensation to future years, how does that actually work in practice? Like can Tom Hanks say "pay me $10M this year and $10M in 2026" when he signs the contract? And what happens if tax rates go up in those future years - wouldn't that backfire?
I'm new to this community and dealing with my first paper check refund situation, so this thread has been incredibly enlightening! My transcript shows a date of 3/22, and based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like I should expect the actual mailing to happen around 3/25-3/26, with delivery sometime in early April. I had no idea there was such a distinction between "issued" and "mailed" - the IRS really doesn't make this clear at all! I'm definitely taking notes from all the helpful advice here, especially about potentially having the post office hold it for pickup and absolutely setting up direct deposit for next year. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's so reassuring to know this confusion is normal and that there are actual patterns to the timing!
@Aisha Mohammed Welcome to the community! I m'also pretty new here and this thread has been a lifesaver for understanding how all this works. Your timeline sounds about right based on what everyone s'sharing - I have a 3/20 date on my transcript so we re'probably going to be in the same boat waiting for our checks around the same time! It s'honestly crazy how the IRS makes something that should be straightforward so confusing with their terminology. I m'already planning to switch to direct deposit next year after reading all these stories about the waiting and wondering. At least now we know what to expect instead of checking the mailbox frantically starting on our transcript dates!
As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say thank you all for this incredibly detailed discussion! I'm in the exact same situation with my first paper check refund - my transcript shows 3/17 and I had no clue what that date actually meant. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so helpful in understanding that it's the "issued" date, not the mailing date. Based on all the timelines shared here, it sounds like I should expect my check to be mailed around 3/20-3/21 and arrive sometime between 3/27-4/2. The tip about having the post office hold IRS mail for pickup is genius - I'm definitely calling them tomorrow to set that up. It's honestly frustrating that the IRS doesn't explain this distinction anywhere, but I'm so grateful for communities like this where people share their real experiences. Lesson learned for next year: direct deposit all the way! Thanks again everyone for taking the time to share your knowledge with us newcomers.
Julian Paolo
From your description, sounds like you might have a reasonable salary already. But another advantage of S Corp status you should be taking advantage of - the pass-through income isn't subject to self-employment tax (15.3% between Social Security and Medicare). That's a huge savings compared to running the same business as a sole proprietorship where ALL your profit would face SE tax. That's why the salary vs. distribution balance matters so much. You need to pay FICA taxes on your salary, but not on distributions. Just don't go too low on salary or you'll raise red flags.
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Sean Murphy
One thing that might help clarify this for you - think of your S Corp as essentially "transparent" for tax purposes. The IRS basically pretends it doesn't exist when calculating your personal taxes. Your $140k salary gets reported on your W-2 and taxed as regular wages. The remaining $335k gets reported on Schedule K-1 and flows to your personal return as pass-through income. Then your TOTAL income ($475k plus any other personal income) determines which tax brackets apply to different portions. So yes, most of your income will likely fall into higher brackets, but remember that tax brackets are marginal - you don't pay 37% on all $475k, just on the portion that exceeds the 37% bracket threshold. Also definitely look into that QBI deduction mentioned earlier - as a design business, you should qualify for up to 20% deduction on the pass-through portion, which can significantly reduce your effective tax rate on that $335k. Just make sure your total taxable income doesn't push you into the phase-out ranges where the deduction gets limited.
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Beth Ford
ā¢This is such a helpful way to think about it! The "transparent" analogy really clarifies how S Corp taxation works. I've been getting confused thinking the corporation had its own tax rate that somehow affected my personal brackets. So just to make sure I understand the QBI deduction correctly - if I qualify for the full 20% on that $335k pass-through income, that would be a $67k deduction? That seems almost too good to be true. Are there specific requirements for design businesses to qualify, or income limits I need to worry about with my total income level?
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