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Has anyone done this this year? I'm afraid of getting hit with some penalty if I file for stimulus money this late... is there a deadline to claim these payments?
You have 3 years from the original tax filing deadline to amend a return. So for 2020 returns (first and second stimulus), you have until April 15, 2024. For 2021 returns (third stimulus), you have until April 15, 2025. No penalties for claiming these credits late as long as you're within those timeframes!
I'm in a similar situation - never received my third stimulus payment and have been putting off dealing with it because the whole process seemed overwhelming. After reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like filing the 1040-X amendment is definitely doable without paying a tax service. Quick question for those who have successfully done this: Do you need any special documentation to prove you never received the payment? I checked the IRS "Get My Payment" tool back in 2021 and it always said "Payment Status Not Available" but I don't have any screenshots or records of that. Will the IRS cross-reference their payment records automatically when they process the amendment, or do I need to provide some kind of proof that I never got it? Also, for anyone still on the fence about this - the deadline for amending 2021 returns (third stimulus) is April 15, 2025, so there's still time but probably better to get it done sooner rather than later given how long the IRS is taking to process amendments right now.
I'm currently dealing with a very similar situation as someone who became a resident alien in 2023. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful, especially the detailed experiences from people who actually went through this process successfully. What strikes me most is how consistent the advice is across different approaches - whether using professional services, AI tools, or handling it yourself, the key seems to be thorough documentation and demonstrating good faith compliance efforts. The fact that you were already filing FBARs correctly really does show you weren't trying to hide anything. I'm leaning toward the approach that Alejandro Castro described - filing amendments with detailed reasonable cause letters and supporting documentation. The timeline he suggested makes a lot of sense: showing when you became a resident, when you discovered the requirement, and how quickly you took action to fix it. One thing I'd add is to keep screenshots or documentation of when/how you discovered the Form 8938 requirement (like if you found it through IRS publications or tax preparation software). This can further support your reasonable cause argument by showing you were actively trying to understand your obligations. The small amounts of unreported income you mentioned ($150-200) really do suggest this was an honest oversight rather than intentional non-compliance. Combined with your prompt action to correct it, I think you have a very strong case for penalty relief.
This is such great advice about documenting when and how you discovered the Form 8938 requirement! I actually bookmarked the IRS webpage where I first learned about it, so I can include that as part of my timeline documentation. Your point about the consistency across all the different approaches really resonates with me. Whether people used professional help, AI services, or handled it themselves, the successful outcomes all seem to come down to the same core elements: being transparent about the mistake, showing it was non-willful, and demonstrating immediate corrective action once discovered. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with the amendment approach now. The experiences shared here, especially from @Alejandro Castro and others who went through identical situations, make it clear that the IRS really does understand these types of honest mistakes from new residents. I think I ll'follow the comprehensive documentation approach - amended returns, reasonable cause letters, timeline of events, and supporting immigration documents. Having that complete paper trail seems to be what made the difference for everyone who resolved this successfully. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and advice. This community has been incredibly helpful in what felt like an overwhelming situation!
I'm going through something very similar right now! Just became a resident alien in late 2023 and realized I missed several international reporting requirements. Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. What really helped me was creating a comprehensive timeline document that shows: - When my status changed from student to resident alien - When I first learned about Form 8938 (I screenshot the IRS page where I discovered it) - How quickly I'm taking action to correct everything I'm also documenting that I was filing FBARs correctly, which shows I wasn't intentionally hiding anything - just genuinely didn't know about the additional Form 8938 requirement. The amounts involved in my case are also relatively small (under $300 in unreported foreign income), and like several people mentioned, this clearly shows it was an honest oversight rather than willful non-compliance. Planning to file amendments with detailed reasonable cause letters following the approach that worked for @Alejandro Castro. The key seems to be being completely transparent about the mistake while demonstrating good faith efforts to comply once you learn about the requirements. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made what felt like a terrifying situation much more manageable!
5 I'm a tax preparer (not CPA) and I see this issue all the time. The confusion comes from mixing up reporting requirements for PAYERS versus reporting requirements for TAXPAYERS. Companies don't have to ISSUE 1099s for amounts under $600, but YOU still have to REPORT all income regardless of amount. The IRS won't know directly about these small amounts, but that doesn't make them legal to omit. Think of it this way: if you only reported income that had tax forms, waiters would never report cash tips and babysitters would never report cash payments.
17 So basically what you're saying is follow the law but realistically no one will ever know or care about my $37 in Rakuten referrals lol
Exactly - you've got it! Legally you're supposed to report it, but practically speaking the IRS has bigger fish to fry than chasing down $37 in referral bonuses. That said, I always tell my clients to report everything because it's the right thing to do and it protects you if you ever get audited for other reasons. Plus if you're already doing your taxes, adding one more line item isn't that much extra work. But yeah, realistically speaking, small amounts like that are extremely unlikely to ever be an issue.
I really appreciate everyone's detailed responses here! As someone new to dealing with these types of income sources, this has been incredibly helpful. It sounds like the consensus is pretty clear - my CPA's advice was wrong and potentially risky. I'm definitely going to report everything properly. Better to be safe than sorry, especially since we're not talking about huge amounts anyway. The distinction between what companies have to report versus what I have to report makes total sense now. One quick follow-up question though - for those referral bonuses from Chase and other credit cards, do I need to keep any special documentation beyond just recording the amounts? Like screenshots of the bonus notifications or anything like that?
Yes, definitely keep documentation! Screenshots of bonus notifications, emails confirming the bonuses, and bank/credit card statements showing when the bonuses were credited are all good to have. The IRS loves paper trails during audits. I'd also recommend keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking the date, source, amount, and type of each bonus. This makes it much easier when tax time comes around and shows you're being diligent about record-keeping. Even though these are small amounts, good documentation habits will serve you well as your side income grows. Welcome to the community, by the way! It's refreshing to see someone asking the right questions and wanting to do things properly from the start.
To answer the original question with some actual data points: - Top 1% of earners (making $540k+) pay about 40% of federal income tax - Top 10% (making $145k+) pay about 71% of income tax - Bottom 50% (making below $41k) pay about 3% of income tax BUT here's where it gets interesting - when you include payroll taxes (Social Security/Medicare), the picture changes because those taxes hit middle and lower incomes harder due to the cap. The problem with these discussions is everyone focuses on federal income tax, but that's just one piece. When you factor in state taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and other fees, the overall tax system becomes much less progressive.
Those numbers seem cherry-picked. Are those percentages of total tax paid or their effective tax rates? Because if 1% of people pay 40% of taxes but earn 80% of the income, that's still regressive. Can you share where those stats come from?
Those are percentages of total federal income tax collected, coming from IRS data for 2020 (the most recent complete analysis available). You raise a good point about comparing to income share - the top 1% earned about 20% of total adjusted gross income while paying 40% of income taxes, making the income tax portion progressive. However, looking at your broader question - when analyzing the entire tax system (federal, state, local, sales, property, etc.), studies from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy show the overall system is much less progressive than federal income tax alone. In some states with high sales taxes and no income tax, the overall tax system can actually be regressive, with lower-income residents paying a higher percentage of their income in total taxes than wealthy residents.
I think we're missing something important here - it's not just about how much each group pays, but what we get in return! I pay around 28% of my income in various taxes (I calculated it last year), and I'm constantly wondering where it all goes. Other countries with similar or higher tax rates have universal healthcare, affordable college, better infrastructure, and longer vacation time. Americans feel overtaxed not just because of the amount, but because many don't feel they're getting good value for what they pay.
Exactly! I moved back to the US after living in Germany for 5 years. Paid higher taxes there but never worried about healthcare costs, had excellent public transportation, and 6 weeks vacation. Here I pay slightly less in taxes but then have to pay $650/month for health insurance with a $4000 deductible. It's not just the tax rate that matters!
Andre Dupont
One thing to keep in mind is that tax software like TurboTax sometimes applies specialized rounding rules in certain calculations that might not be obvious. For example, when calculating things like the Earned Income Credit or Child Tax Credit, there are specific worksheets with their own rounding rules. Some calculations might require rounding at intermediate steps while others only round at the final step. My advice is to always use the official IRS worksheets and tables rather than trying to recreate the formulas yourself. They're designed to be followed step-by-step and will give you the exact same result as tax software.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
ā¢This is why I gave up calculating by hand years ago! Too many weird little rules and exceptions. Which tax software do you recommend that's accurate but not too expensive?
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Angelina Farar
The $3 difference is most likely coming from your rounding of taxable income to $84,600 instead of using the exact amount of $84,582. The IRS tax tables calculate tax based on your precise taxable income (rounded only to the nearest dollar), not rounded to the nearest $50. When you used the formula method with $84,600, you calculated a slightly higher tax than what the actual tax tables would show for $84,582. The difference of $18 in taxable income at the 12% bracket would create about a $2.16 difference in tax ($18 Ć 0.12), which closely matches your $3 discrepancy when combined with other minor rounding differences in your calculations. For future manual calculations, I'd recommend using the official IRS Tax Tables found in the 1040 instructions rather than the bracket formulas. The tables are specifically designed to give you the exact tax amount that software like TurboTax uses, and they're actually easier to use since you just look up your income range rather than doing percentage calculations.
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