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Slightly different perspective - before you panic completely, have you tried checking your return against free tax software just to verify if there are actual errors? I've used FreeTaxUSA for years and it's super straightforward. You could input all your info there and see if the numbers match up with what the Fiverr person gave you. This way you'd know for sure if you're being overcharged on taxes due to missing deductions. It might take an hour or two, but it would give you peace of mind before you potentially pay someone else to redo everything.
I'm dealing with a similar back tax situation right now and your story is giving me major anxiety! One thing I've learned through this process is that you absolutely cannot file returns with known errors - it can actually make your situation with the IRS worse, not better. The missing preparer signature is a huge red flag. Any legitimate tax professional should be willing to sign their work. If she's refusing to do that, it suggests she either knows there are problems with the returns or she's not actually qualified to prepare them. For the advertising deductions specifically - those can make a massive difference in what you owe. If she left those off completely, you could be overpaying by hundreds or even thousands of dollars. Given that you're already dealing with back taxes, every dollar counts. I'd give her 24-48 hours to respond and fix everything. If she doesn't, cut your losses and find a local CPA or enrolled agent. Yes, it'll cost more upfront, but it's way cheaper than dealing with IRS penalties later if the returns are wrong. The peace of mind alone is worth it when you're trying to get right with the IRS. Also, definitely keep all your communications with her in case you need to file a complaint later. Good luck!
This is really helpful advice, thank you! I'm also curious - when you say "cut your losses," do you mean just eat the $675 I already paid the Fiverr preparer, or is there a way to get some of that back through Fiverr's dispute process? I'm trying to figure out if I should pursue a refund or just focus on getting the returns done correctly at this point. Also, how did you go about finding a trustworthy local CPA? I'm worried about making the same mistake twice and ending up with another problematic preparer.
Has anyone used a tax professional who specializes in disability income? I've been getting different answers from different people and regular tax preparers seem confused by my situation. I have both VA disability (which I know is tax-free) and private disability that I'm not sure about.
I worked with a CPA who specializes in disability tax issues after my car accident. Totally worth the $350 fee - she found several mistakes in how my disability was being reported and saved me over $4200 in taxes. Search for "disability income tax specialist" in your area or ask in local disability support groups for recommendations.
I went through this exact same confusion last year! The taxation of your disability benefits really does depend on how the premiums were paid, but there's another important factor that often gets overlooked - some employers automatically enroll you in "voluntary" disability coverage through payroll deduction that looks like you're paying for it, but it's actually processed as pre-tax. Here's what I'd recommend: Request a detailed breakdown from your HR department showing not just that you paid the premiums, but specifically whether those deductions were made on a pre-tax or post-tax basis. Also ask for copies of your original enrollment forms - sometimes these will explicitly state the tax treatment. If you discover that you were indeed paying with after-tax dollars and your benefits are being incorrectly taxed, you can file Form 1040X to amend your return. I had to do this and got back about $2,800 in overpaid taxes. The key is having solid documentation from your employer to support your position. Also, don't feel bad about the confusion - disability income taxation is one of the most misunderstood areas of tax law, and even some tax preparers get it wrong. The important thing is getting it sorted out correctly going forward.
Just an additional tip about Form 2441 - make absolutely sure you have the correct Tax ID number for your provider. I made a typo on mine last year and got a notice from the IRS months later questioning my childcare credit. Had to submit additional documentation to prove the expenses were legitimate. For anyone using multiple providers or having a nanny, remember each provider needs their own line on Part I, with their individual Tax ID (SSN for individuals or EIN for businesses). And keep records of payments - bank statements, canceled checks, or receipts! The IRS loves to verify these credits.
Do providers ever refuse to give their tax ID? My kids' summer camp was weird about it last year and just said "we don't provide that information" when I asked. Can I still claim those expenses somehow?
Unfortunately, if a care provider refuses to provide their tax ID, you technically can't claim those expenses on Form 2441. The IRS requires the provider's name, address, and tax identification number for all qualifying expenses over $25. However, you should definitely push back on this! Any legitimate childcare provider should be willing to provide their tax ID - it's a standard request and they're required to report their income anyway. You might try explaining that it's needed for your taxes and that you're not reporting them to anyone, just fulfilling IRS requirements. If they absolutely refuse, you could try contacting them in writing to create a paper trail showing you made a good faith effort to obtain the information. Keep records of your attempts - sometimes the IRS will accept the expenses if you can demonstrate the provider unreasonably refused to provide required information.
Great thread! I went through the exact same confusion with Form 2441 last year. One thing that really helped me was understanding the income phase-out for the credit percentage. At your $115,000 income level, you'll get 20% of your qualifying expenses as mentioned, but it's worth knowing that if your income was under $15,000 you'd get the full 35% rate. Also, don't forget that both you and your wife need to have earned income for the year to qualify for the credit (or one spouse can be a full-time student). Since you mentioned you both work full-time, you're good there. The $6,000 limit for two kids can be frustrating when you're paying so much more, but remember that the FSA option (if your employers offer it) can help stretch your tax savings. You can contribute up to $5,000 pre-tax to a Dependent Care FSA AND still get the credit on remaining qualifying expenses up to the $6,000 limit. Just make sure to coordinate them properly on Part III like others mentioned!
This is really helpful information about the income phase-out! I had no idea the credit percentage changed based on income level. At $115,000 we're getting 20%, but it's good to know how the system works. One question about coordinating the FSA with Form 2441 - if we max out our FSA at $5,000 next year, would it make sense to try to keep our total qualifying expenses closer to $6,000 to get the most benefit from the credit? Or should we not worry about that and just claim whatever we actually paid regardless?
Another thing to consider - if you continue filing separately, and your wife has to itemize when she otherwise wouldn't want to, she might not have enough deductions to exceed the standard deduction amount. In that case, she would just list all her itemized deductions (even if the total is less than the standard deduction) and potentially pay more tax than necessary. This is why the married filing separately status can be so punitive - you get stuck with the worst of both worlds sometimes.
Actually that's not quite right. If both spouses must itemize, and one spouse has very few itemized deductions, they would still itemize but could list $0 for many categories. Their total itemized deduction might be much lower than the standard deduction they could have taken, but that's the trade-off when one spouse benefits from itemizing.
I'm a tax preparer and can confirm what others have said - this is a real rule that's often overlooked. The technical citation is IRC Section 63(c)(6)(A), which states that if one spouse itemizes deductions, the other spouse's standard deduction is zero, effectively forcing them to itemize as well. What's interesting about your situation is that you've been non-compliant for years without detection. This highlights a gap in IRS enforcement - their matching systems are sophisticated for things like W-2s and 1099s, but they don't routinely cross-reference deduction methods between married filing separately returns. However, I'd strongly recommend getting compliant going forward. If either of your returns ever gets selected for examination (audit), the first thing they'll check is whether you're both using the same deduction method. The penalties and interest on any additional tax owed could add up quickly. Also consider that your wife's father may not be aware of this rule - it's one of those technical requirements that even some preparers miss because it's not intuitive and the software doesn't always catch it when preparing returns separately.
Aaliyah Reed
Just wanted to add one more consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're aware of the quarterly payment due dates if you decide to go that route instead of adjusting your W4. Since your wife made $22K last year and will likely make similar this year, and you're starting your job in July, you'll want to be strategic about timing. The Q3 estimated payment (due September 15) might be a good starting point for your wife if you decide on quarterly payments rather than W4 adjustments. Also, keep in mind that if your wife's business has any seasonal fluctuations, you might want to use the annualized income installment method rather than paying equal quarterly amounts. This can help if her income varies significantly throughout the year. One last tip: whatever approach you choose (W4 adjustment vs quarterly payments), make sure to revisit your calculations in the fall once you have a better sense of both your actual income and your wife's year-end business expenses. You can always make adjustments for Q4 or change your W4 withholding if needed. The key is just getting started with something reasonable rather than trying to get it perfect from day one!
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Aaliyah Jackson
β’This is such great practical advice about the timing! I'm actually in a very similar situation - just started a new job and my spouse has variable 1099 income. The point about Q3 payments makes a lot of sense since that's when the new income really kicks in. One thing I'd add is that if you do decide to make quarterly payments, you can actually make them online through the IRS Direct Pay system, which makes it super convenient. You can even set up automatic payments if you want to stick with equal quarterly amounts. Also, @Aaliyah Reed mentioned the annualized income installment method - this can be really helpful if your wife s'business income is seasonal. For example, if she makes most of her money in the last quarter, you can adjust the payments accordingly rather than overpaying early in the year. I agree completely that getting started with something reasonable is better than analysis paralysis. You can always adjust as you learn more about your actual tax situation!
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Bethany Groves
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! My husband is a 1099 contractor making about $25K annually, and I just started a new W2 job making $78K. One thing that really helped me was breaking down the calculation into two parts: the self-employment tax (which is pretty straightforward at 15.3% of net income) and the additional income tax from the combined income pushing us into a higher bracket. For your wife's $22K income, you're looking at roughly $3,370 in self-employment tax. Then for the income tax portion, you'll need to figure out what tax bracket your combined income puts you in. With your $85K plus her $22K, you'll likely be in the 22% bracket, so that's another $4,840 in income tax on her income. The tricky part is that your wife can reduce her taxable income significantly with business deductions - home office, supplies, mileage, phone/internet if used for business, etc. This could easily reduce her taxable income by $3-5K, which would lower the overall tax burden. I ended up using a combination approach: I increased my W4 withholding by about $400/month to cover most of it, and my husband makes a small quarterly payment to cover any difference. This way we're not over-withholding too much from my paychecks, but we're still staying current with the taxes. The IRS withholding calculator is definitely your best bet for getting the exact numbers, but hopefully this gives you a ballpark to work with!
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Kingston Bellamy
β’This breakdown is really helpful! I'm curious about the business deductions you mentioned - how do you determine what percentage of home office expenses can be deducted? My spouse works from home but also uses the space for personal things, so I'm not sure how to calculate that properly. Also, do you track mileage for every single business-related trip, or is there a simpler way to estimate that? I want to make sure we're taking advantage of all the deductions we can legally claim without getting into trouble with the IRS.
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