This is such a common issue during tax season! The same thing happened to my sister last year - the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool kept showing her refund as deposited even though her account had been closed months earlier. What typically happens is the bank returns the deposit to the IRS within 1-3 business days of the attempted deposit, but the IRS system doesn't update to reflect this. The paper check process then takes an additional 2-4 weeks from the date of the rejected deposit. Since your refund shows as deposited on February 15th, your bank likely rejected it around February 16th-18th. This means your paper check was probably issued sometime in early to mid-March, so you should be receiving it very soon if you haven't already! A few things you can do: Call your old bank to confirm they rejected and returned the deposit (this will give you peace of mind), make sure your current address matches what's on your tax return, and if you moved recently, set up mail forwarding with USPS just in case. The money isn't lost - it's just taking the IRS time to process the returned funds and mail the check. Hang in there!

I've been following this thread as I'm dealing with a very similar situation myself! My refund was supposedly "deposited" on February 20th, but I just realized my savings account was closed in January due to minimum balance issues after some unexpected expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful - especially learning that the "Where's My Refund" tool basically lies to you about the actual status when deposits get rejected. It's frustrating that the IRS system doesn't update to show what's really happening. Based on the timelines everyone has shared, it sounds like I should expect my paper check sometime in the next week or so (if the 2-4 week processing window holds true). I'm definitely going to call my old bank tomorrow to confirm they rejected and sent the funds back - that seems like the best way to get actual confirmation that the process is moving along. Has anyone here actually received their paper check yet? I'd love to hear if the timelines people predicted actually matched reality. This whole situation has been so stressful, but this community discussion has given me hope that my refund isn't lost forever!

Has anyone used tax software to handle refinance points? I tried doing this in TurboTax last year and found it super confusing. It asked if I paid points but didn't clearly separate refinance vs purchase points.

I went through this exact same frustration when I refinanced two years ago! The timing really stings because you're paying thousands upfront but can only deduct a tiny portion each year. One thing that helped me feel better about it: even though you have to spread the deduction over 30 years, you're still getting the same total tax benefit - it's just delayed. And if you ever pay off the loan early or refinance again, you get to deduct all the remaining unamortized points in that year. Also, make sure you're tracking this properly each year. I created a simple spreadsheet showing my annual deduction amount ($4,300 ÷ 30 years = about $143/year in your case) so I don't forget to claim it. It's easy to overlook such a small annual amount, but over time it adds up. The IRS logic is frustrating but at least the benefit isn't completely lost!

Has anyone compared what happens with futures and section 1256 contracts under regular vs MTM? I trade a lot of ES and NQ futures and right now I'm getting that sweet 60/40 split between long-term and short-term rates. Wondering if MTM would hurt or help in my case?

Great thread! As someone who made the MTM election two years ago, I wanted to add a few practical considerations that might help with your decision: One thing to consider is the timing of when you actually start generating significant trading income under MTM. If you're planning to scale up your trading activity significantly in 2025, the ordinary income treatment might actually work in your favor if you're able to deduct business expenses that you couldn't before (like a home office, equipment, education, etc.). Also, regarding your multiple brokerage accounts - while the MTM election does apply to all securities under your SSN, I've found it helpful to designate one account specifically for "business trading" and another for "personal investments" even before setting up any entities. This makes the record-keeping much cleaner if you do decide to go the LLC route later. One more tip: if you do sell your NVDA position before year-end to lock in those long-term gains, be mindful of the wash sale rules if you plan to repurchase it within 30 days. Even though MTM eliminates wash sales going forward, the rules still apply to your 2024 transactions under regular tax treatment. The complexity definitely increases, but the benefits can be substantial if you're doing high-volume trading. Just make sure you have a solid bookkeeping system in place!

Has your son considered taking the mother back to court to update the custody agreement? If the actual situation doesn't match the legal documents, that's a problem for tax purposes. The IRS generally follows the custody agreement. If he can get the agreement modified to reflect reality (that the child lives with him/you most of the time), it would be much easier to legitimately claim the child on taxes going forward. Also, make sure to look into the Child Tax Credit and the Credit for Other Dependents. Depending on your income and situation, you might qualify for one of these if you're able to claim your granddaughter.

I went through something very similar with my grandson a few years ago. The situation you're describing - where you're providing all the care but someone else has legal custody - is unfortunately common. Here's what I learned: The IRS uses what's called the "tie-breaker rules" when multiple people could potentially claim the same child. Generally, the parent with whom the child lived for the greater number of nights during the year gets to claim them. But when parents aren't living together, the custodial parent (according to the divorce decree or separation agreement) typically has the right to claim the child. However, there's an important exception: if you can prove that your granddaughter lived with you for more than half the year (183+ nights) and you provided more than half of her support, you might be able to claim her as a "qualifying relative" rather than a "qualifying child." My advice: Start documenting everything NOW for next year's taxes. Keep a detailed calendar of where she sleeps each night, save every receipt for her expenses, and get letters from her school, doctor, etc. showing your address as her primary residence. You might also want to consult with a tax professional who specializes in family situations like this - the rules can be tricky but there are often ways to make it work legally.

You're absolutely right about the documentation being key here. I've been dealing with this exact issue in my construction business for years. The IRS doesn't actually require you to get W-9s from every single day laborer - that's a common misconception that causes a lot of unnecessary stress. Here's what I learned from my tax attorney: for occasional workers paid under $600 annually, you just need to maintain adequate records showing the expense was ordinary and necessary for your business. This means keeping a simple log with dates, amounts paid, work performed, and ideally some form of acknowledgment from the worker (even just a first name and signature on a receipt). For your ATM records, you can definitely use those as supporting documentation. Create a log that matches your withdrawal dates to specific jobs, noting how many workers you hired, what work they did, and how much you paid each person. Photos of the work being done can also help establish the business purpose. The $600 threshold is per individual worker per year, not total payments to all workers. Since you're using different people each time, you're likely not hitting that threshold with any single worker. Just make sure you're consistent with your documentation going forward - the IRS values consistency and good faith effort to maintain proper records.

I've been running a small electrical contracting business for about 8 years and dealt with this exact same issue. The key thing to understand is that the IRS cares more about whether you can prove the expense was legitimate and business-related than having perfect W-9 documentation for every single person. Here's what worked for me: I created a simple "Daily Labor Log" that I keep in my work truck. For each job where I hire day laborers, I write down: date, job address, worker's first name, hours worked, rate paid, total amount, and what specific work they did. I also have them initial next to their entry - most people are fine with this since it's not asking for sensitive info. For your past expenses, definitely create that reconstruction log matching your ATM withdrawals to specific jobs. Include as much detail as you can remember - job locations, approximate dates, what work was needed, how many people you hired. This shows the IRS you're making a good faith effort to maintain proper records. The separate cash account idea mentioned above is genius - I wish I'd thought of that years ago. It would make everything so much cleaner come tax time. You're definitely on the right track with wanting to document these properly - these are legitimate business expenses that you absolutely should be able to deduct.