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I'm a former banking operations specialist, and there may be some additional factors at play here. Chase, like most large banks, typically processes ACH transfers in batches, usually around 2-3 times per day. If the IRS transmission occurred after the final batch on 3/19, it would likely be processed the following business day. Additionally, there could possibly be a security hold if this is a new account, if the amount is significantly larger than previous deposits, or if there have been recent account changes. These holds are generally 2-3 business days but can extend to 5 business days in some circumstances.
Let me clarify the process when you call Chase about a missing tax refund: 1. Call the direct deposit department (not general customer service) 2. Provide your mother-in-law's account information 3. Ask specifically about pending ACH transfers from the Treasury 4. Request information about any security holds 5. If it's been more than 3 business days, request escalation to a supervisor 6. Document the call with representative name, time, and case number if provided
@Lucy Taylor how does one get in touch with direct deposit dept
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My DDD was 3/19 with Chase and I'm still waiting too. After reading all these responses, I called Chase this morning using the advice from @Lucy Taylor about calling the direct deposit department specifically. The rep told me they can see a "processing deposit" from the Treasury that should post within 24-48 hours. She said it's been in their system since 3/20 but got flagged for their standard tax refund verification process. Apparently this is happening to a lot of Chase customers with DDDs from 3/19. Really frustrating that they don't show these as pending in online banking! I'll update once it hits my account.
This is really helpful information! Thanks for actually calling and sharing what you found out. It's so frustrating that Chase doesn't show these "processing deposits" in online banking - makes us all think something went wrong when really they're just holding it for their verification process. I'm in the same boat with a 3/19 DDD and Chase, so I'm going to call them today using the same approach you did. Really appreciate you taking the time to update us with what the rep told you. Hopefully we'll all see our refunds hit within the next day or two!
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Your dad's situation is definitely fixable, but time is critical here. I agree with the advice to apply for Social Security immediately - don't wait for the tax situation to be resolved first. The SSA can work with his earnings record that employers have been reporting all these years. For the tax side, start by requesting wage and income transcripts from the IRS for all the unfiled years. You can do this online at irs.gov or by calling them (though as others mentioned, getting through can be challenging). These transcripts will show what income was reported by his employers and any taxes withheld. Since he had taxes withheld from his paychecks, he likely doesn't owe anything and may even be due refunds for some years. The key is getting those last 6 years filed to bring him into compliance. Given the complexity and the urgency with his health situation, I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional who has experience with unfiled returns - they can streamline the process and help avoid costly mistakes. The most important thing is to take action now rather than letting this drag on any longer. Both his Social Security benefits and potential tax refunds are time-sensitive.
This is excellent comprehensive advice! I just want to emphasize one point about the wage and income transcripts - when you request these from the IRS, make sure to get them for ALL the unfiled years, not just the recent ones. Even though your dad may only need to file the last 6 years to be current, having the full picture of his income history will help identify any years where he might be owed refunds. Also, when working with a tax professional, look for someone who specifically advertises experience with "unfiled returns" or "delinquent taxes" rather than just general tax prep. These specialists understand the IRS procedures for catching up on multiple years and can often negotiate better outcomes if any issues arise. The urgency around Social Security cannot be overstated - every month that passes is potentially money lost forever due to the retroactive limits.
I went through almost the exact same situation with my father-in-law two years ago. He hadn't filed in about 18 years and was panicking about Social Security eligibility. Here's what we learned that might help: First, definitely start the Social Security application ASAP as others have mentioned - the earnings record from employers is what matters most for benefits, not tax filings. We were amazed to discover his full work history was already in their system from employer reporting. For the IRS side, we found out that since taxes were withheld from his paychecks the whole time, he actually qualified for what's called "substitute for return" status for many years where the IRS basically filed simplified returns on his behalf. This meant he wasn't in as much trouble as we feared. The real breakthrough came when we got his wage and income transcripts for all the missing years. It showed that for 4 of the years, he was actually owed refunds totaling over $3,200 (though we could only claim the ones from the last 3 years). We ended up only needing to file the last 6 years to get him current, and the whole process took about 3 months working with a tax professional who specialized in unfiled returns. The key was getting started immediately - don't let fear of the IRS paralyze you into waiting longer. Your dad's health situation makes this urgent, but it's absolutely manageable. The government actually wants people to get caught up and claim their benefits!
This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same situation! The "substitute for return" status is something I hadn't heard of before - that could be a huge relief for my dad's situation. Can you tell me more about how you found the tax professional who specialized in unfiled returns? Did you just search online or get a referral? And roughly what did the whole process cost? I'm trying to budget for this since we need to move quickly but also want to make sure we're working with someone reputable. Also, when you say it took 3 months total, was that 3 months of active work or mostly waiting for the IRS to process things? I'm trying to set realistic expectations for my dad about the timeline.
This has been such an educational thread to follow! As someone who just started a new job last month and is still figuring out my payroll system, I'm definitely bookmarking this for future reference. The systematic approach everyone has outlined here is really helpful - checking filing status, allowances, additional withholding amounts, pay period configuration, and even asking about migration checklists. It's amazing how many different variables can affect withholding calculations that most of us never think about. I'm particularly grateful for the HR perspective about this being a common issue during system migrations. It makes me feel more prepared to advocate for myself if I ever run into similar problems. The point about potentially multiple employees being affected by the same systematic error is also really valuable to know - it could help speed up resolution if you can frame it as a broader system issue rather than just an individual problem. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise! This community really is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing payroll and tax situations.
I'm so glad you found this thread helpful! As someone new to the workforce, it's really smart that you're already thinking about these kinds of payroll issues proactively. I wish I had understood all these different variables when I first started working - it would have saved me a lot of confusion over the years. One thing I'd add for someone in your position is to take screenshots or save copies of your very first few pay stubs, especially if your company ever mentions any upcoming system changes. Having that baseline documentation can be incredibly valuable if you need to troubleshoot withholding issues later on. Also, don't hesitate to ask your HR team questions about your W-4 setup early on, even if everything seems to be working fine. It's much easier to make adjustments when you first start rather than trying to figure out what went wrong months later. Welcome to the workforce, and I hope your payroll experience stays smooth!
This entire discussion has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea there were so many potential pitfalls during payroll system migrations. As someone who's never experienced this kind of transition before, I'm really grateful for all the detailed troubleshooting steps everyone has shared. The systematic checklist that's emerged from this thread is gold: filing status, allowances/exemptions, additional withholding amounts, pay period configuration, and asking HR about migration processes. I'm definitely saving this for future reference in case my company ever switches systems. It's also really encouraging to see how helpful this community is - from the HR professional's perspective to people sharing their personal experiences with tools like taxr.ai and Claimyr. The collaborative problem-solving approach here is exactly what makes online communities valuable. @ac68532f8d25 I hope your HR meeting goes smoothly tomorrow! With all the specific issues you've identified and the great questions everyone has suggested, it sounds like you're well-prepared to get everything sorted out. Please update us on how it goes - I'm sure others would benefit from hearing about the resolution process too.
I went through this exact same situation two years ago and can confirm that you're not out of luck! The IRS does allow late filing of Form 3115 for 475(f) elections under certain circumstances. The key is that you made a good faith effort by filing the election statement with your return. You'll want to file Form 3115 with your 2024 return and include a detailed reasonable cause statement explaining why you missed the original deadline. Reference Revenue Procedure 2022-14 for automatic consent procedures. Make sure to emphasize that you properly made the election statement and are correcting the oversight as soon as you discovered it. The good news is that if accepted, you won't need to amend prior returns - the Form 3115 handles the accounting method change adjustments through Section 481(a). I'd recommend getting professional help to ensure everything is done correctly, but you definitely still have options to salvage your MTM election.
This is really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this process! I'm curious about the Section 481(a) adjustment you mentioned - how complicated is that to calculate? I'm trying to figure out if this is something I can handle myself or if I really need to bite the bullet and hire a professional. My trading activity wasn't super complex last year, mostly just swing trading stocks, so I'm hoping the adjustment won't be too difficult to work out.
The Section 481(a) adjustment can actually be pretty straightforward if your trading wasn't too complex. Essentially, you're calculating the difference between what your taxable income would have been under your old accounting method versus the mark-to-market method for the year you're making the change. For swing trading stocks, you'd typically be looking at any unrealized gains/losses in your positions at year-end that would now be recognized under MTM treatment. If you had net unrealized losses, that could actually work in your favor as a negative adjustment (reducing your taxable income). The calculation gets more complex if you had positions that spanned multiple years or if you're switching from installment method reporting. Given that you're already dealing with a late Form 3115 filing, I'd honestly recommend getting professional help at least for this first year to make sure everything is calculated correctly. Once you see how it's done, future years become much more manageable. The cost of getting it wrong with the IRS could be much higher than the professional fees.
I went through a very similar situation last year and want to reassure you that it's not hopeless! I made my 475(f) election with my 2022 return but completely missed the Form 3115 requirement. I didn't discover this until I was preparing my 2023 taxes. I ended up filing Form 3115 with my 2023 return under the automatic consent procedures in Rev. Proc. 2022-14. The key was including a comprehensive reasonable cause statement that explained I had made the election in good faith but was unaware of the additional Form 3115 requirement. I emphasized that I was correcting the oversight immediately upon discovery. The IRS accepted my late filing without any issues. The Section 481(a) adjustment wasn't as scary as I thought it would be - it actually worked in my favor since I had some unrealized losses that reduced my taxable income for that year. My advice: don't panic, but do act quickly. File the Form 3115 with your 2024 return, include a detailed reasonable cause statement, and reference the appropriate revenue procedure. If your trading situation is complex, consider getting professional help, but many people have successfully resolved this exact issue. The IRS is generally reasonable when you show good faith effort to comply.
This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear! I've been losing sleep over this situation thinking I completely ruined my trader status eligibility. Your experience gives me hope that the IRS will be reasonable about this oversight. Quick question - when you filed your Form 3115 late, did you have to pay any penalties or interest? And roughly how long did it take to get confirmation that they accepted your filing? I'm trying to plan for what to expect when I submit mine with my 2024 return. Also, did you handle the Section 481(a) adjustment calculation yourself or did you get professional help with that part? I'm still on the fence about whether to DIY this or hire someone, especially since money is tight right now after some trading losses this year.
Katherine Harris
I actually did pass using primarily IRS publications, though I'll admit it wasn't easy! The key was creating a structured approach rather than just reading them cover to cover. What worked for me was printing out the content outlines Connor mentioned, then mapping specific sections of each publication to the exam topics. I'd read a section, then immediately try to explain it in my own words or create examples. This helped combat the dense language issue. I also joined a few Facebook groups for EA candidates where people would post questions about confusing sections - that community discussion really helped clarify difficult concepts. The IRS pubs definitely aren't written as study guides, but they contain all the information you need if you're willing to put in the extra work to organize it properly. That said, if budget allows, the commercial programs are definitely more efficient. But for those who want to go the free route like the OP, it's absolutely doable with the right strategy and a lot of patience!
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Dmitry Volkov
ā¢That's really encouraging to hear! I'm in a similar situation where I want to minimize costs but I'm willing to put in extra effort. Could you share more specifics about how you mapped the publications to exam topics? Like did you create spreadsheets or use some other system? And which Facebook groups were most helpful - I'd love to join them for the community support you mentioned.
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KhalilStar
As someone who just passed all three parts of the SEE using primarily IRS publications, I can definitely confirm it's possible! Here's the system I developed that made it manageable: I created a three-column spreadsheet for each exam part: Column 1 listed the exam topics from the Prometric content outline, Column 2 identified which IRS publications covered each topic, and Column 3 tracked my study progress with specific page ranges or sections. For the dense language issue, I found that reading each section twice helped - first for general understanding, then again while taking detailed notes in plain English. I also created my own "cheat sheets" summarizing key rules, exceptions, and thresholds for easy review. One tip that really helped: I set up practice scenarios for myself. After reading about a tax concept, I'd create fake taxpayer situations and work through them step by step. This made the abstract rules much more concrete. The IRS's own Interactive Tax Assistant tool was also surprisingly helpful for checking my understanding of complex scenarios - it's free and walks you through decision trees for many tax situations covered on the exam. Total study time was about 6 months (10-15 hours per week), but I felt very well prepared by exam day. The key is being systematic about it rather than just randomly reading publications!
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Thais Soares
ā¢This is incredibly helpful! I love the three-column spreadsheet approach - that sounds like exactly the kind of systematic organization I need. Quick question about the Interactive Tax Assistant tool - I hadn't heard of that before. Is it something you access through the IRS website? And did you find it covered enough scenarios to be worthwhile for exam prep, or was it more supplemental? I'm definitely going to try creating those practice scenarios you mentioned too. Thanks for sharing such a detailed breakdown of what worked!
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