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I just want to echo what others have said here - you're absolutely doing the right thing by filing with the correct amount based on your actual payment records. I went through something very similar last year with my mortgage servicer who somehow "forgot" to include two months of payments on my 1098. The key thing that gave me confidence was realizing that the 1098 is just an information document - it's not the final word on what you can deduct. The IRS cares about what you actually paid, not what your mortgage company remembered to report. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet showing each payment I made, the date, the interest portion, and cross-referencing it with my loan statements. Having everything laid out clearly made me feel much more confident about my numbers and gave me a clean document to keep with my tax records. Don't let their incompetence cost you $120 in additional refund! File with the correct amount and rest easy knowing you're reporting accurately. The documentation you already have (loan statements and your communication attempts) is more than sufficient to back up your deduction if anyone ever asks.

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Layla Mendes

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This is such great advice about creating a spreadsheet to track everything! I'm definitely going to do that - it sounds like it would make me feel much more organized and confident about my numbers too. I'm curious though - when you filed with the correct amount that was different from your 1098, did you note anywhere on your tax return that there was a discrepancy? Like did you attach an explanation or just file normally? I keep going back and forth on whether I should include some kind of note with my return explaining the situation, or if that might actually draw unwanted attention to the issue. Also, did your mortgage company ever end up sending the corrected 1098, or did they just leave it as is? I'm wondering if I should keep pushing mine or just give up and move forward with filing.

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I didn't include any special notes or explanations on my tax return - just filed normally with the correct mortgage interest amount. Adding explanations can sometimes draw unnecessary attention, and since you're reporting the accurate information, there's no need to flag it. My mortgage company never did send the corrected 1098, even after multiple follow-ups. I eventually just gave up pushing them since I had everything I needed to file correctly anyway. It was frustrating, but their incompetence didn't end up affecting my tax situation at all. The spreadsheet approach really is helpful for peace of mind! I included columns for payment date, total payment, interest portion, principal portion, and a notes column where I tracked which payments were missing from the original 1098. Having it all laid out clearly made me feel completely confident in my numbers. I'd recommend stopping the back-and-forth with your mortgage company at this point. You've made reasonable attempts to get it corrected, you have proper documentation, and you can file accurately without their help. Don't let their delays stress you out any further!

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Ravi Kapoor

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation where my mortgage company left off several months of interest payments from my 1098, and I've been stressing about whether to wait for a corrected form or just file with my own records. Reading everyone's experiences has given me the confidence to move forward with filing using the correct amounts from my loan statements. It's clear that the IRS wants accurate reporting of what was actually paid, regardless of what the mortgage company managed to include on their form. I especially appreciate the practical tips about keeping detailed documentation and the reassurance that CP2000 notices, if they even come, are routine and easily handled with proper records. It's also good to know that so many people have successfully filed this way without issues. For anyone else in this situation - don't let your mortgage company's mistakes delay your refund or cost you legitimate deductions. File with confidence using your actual payment records and keep good documentation. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences here!

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm in the exact same situation with my 19-year-old who just started college full-time but is living at home. Reading through everyone's real experiences has given me so much more confidence than the vague IRS publications I've been trying to decipher. What really stands out to me is how consistent everyone's approach has been: stay within the school's published off-campus housing allowance, keep reasonable documentation of household expenses that benefit your student, and verify enrollment status each semester. It's reassuring to see that multiple families have successfully navigated this without needing formal rental agreements or overly complicated tracking systems. I just downloaded our college's Cost of Attendance document (shows $13,400 for off-campus room and board) and started a simple monthly log of expenses like groceries, utilities, and internet that support my son's education at home. Based on what everyone has shared, this straightforward approach should provide solid documentation if ever questioned. One thing I really appreciate from this discussion is learning that the IRS recognizes the real costs involved in supporting a college student at home, even without traditional rent payments. That was my biggest concern going into this. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their experiences - this thread should definitely be bookmarked for other parents dealing with the same situation!

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Jayden Hill

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm completely new to 529 plans and was honestly pretty intimidated by all the tax rules around qualified expenses. Reading through everyone's experiences has been like getting a crash course in how this actually works in real life versus just reading the confusing IRS guidelines. Your point about the IRS recognizing real costs even without traditional rent payments was exactly what I needed to hear. I kept thinking there had to be some "catch" or complicated workaround, but it sounds like the process is actually pretty straightforward if you follow the basic guidelines everyone has outlined here. I'm definitely going to follow the approach that seems to work for everyone: download my school's cost of attendance document, keep simple records of household expenses, and verify enrollment each semester. The $13,400 allowance at your son's school sounds really reasonable too - gives you plenty of room to cover legitimate expenses without having to stretch to justify every dollar. Thanks for summarizing the key takeaways so clearly. This thread really should be required reading for anyone dealing with 529 funds and students living at home. It's amazing how much clearer everything becomes when you hear from people who have actually done it successfully!

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Yuki Ito

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I'm in exactly this situation with my daughter who's a sophomore living at home while attending university full-time. After reading through all these helpful experiences, I wanted to share what I learned from my tax advisor that might be useful for others. The key insight that gave me confidence was understanding that the IRS doesn't expect you to create artificial rental arrangements with your own child. Instead, they recognize that supporting a college student at home involves legitimate costs that can be covered by 529 funds up to the school's published off-campus housing allowance. Here's what I've been doing that feels both simple and audit-ready: 1) Downloaded my daughter's school's official Cost of Attendance document ($12,600 for off-campus room/board) 2) Keep a basic monthly record of her reasonable share of household costs (utilities, groceries, internet for coursework) 3) Save enrollment verification each semester showing she's full-time 4) Make sure my annual 529 withdrawals don't exceed the published allowance One tip that really helped me: I created a simple one-page summary each year showing the school's allowance, my total withdrawals, and a basic breakdown of housing costs. Having everything organized on one page makes it feel much more manageable and professional if ever questioned. The peace of mind from knowing this is a legitimate and common use of 529 funds has been huge. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful for navigating what initially seemed like a confusing process!

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Ravi Patel

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This is such a helpful summary! I'm just beginning to navigate this process with my son who's starting his sophomore year living at home, and your one-page summary approach sounds perfect. I was getting overwhelmed trying to figure out how much documentation would be "enough" if ever audited. Your point about the IRS not expecting artificial rental arrangements really resonates with me - I kept thinking I needed to create some formal agreement or monthly payment structure, but it makes so much more sense that they'd recognize the real costs of supporting a college student at home. One question: when you calculate your daughter's "reasonable share" of household costs, do you use a straight percentage based on household size, or do you try to estimate actual usage? For things like internet that she uses heavily for coursework, I'm wondering if it's okay to allocate more than just an equal share among family members. Thanks for sharing your organized approach - having a clear system from the start definitely seems like the way to go rather than trying to piece together documentation later!

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For calculating reasonable shares, I use a hybrid approach that's defensible but not overly complicated. For basic utilities like electricity and water, I generally use household size as a starting point (so if there are 4 people, roughly 25% for my daughter). But for things like internet where she's clearly a heavy user due to online coursework, research, and virtual study groups, I allocate closer to 40-50% since it's genuinely educational-related usage. For groceries, I track what we're spending on food that primarily benefits her - extra snacks for late-night studying, meals she eats at home instead of campus dining, etc. I don't get super precise with every grocery receipt, but I keep a reasonable monthly estimate based on our actual spending patterns. The key is being consistent and reasonable rather than trying to maximize every dollar. I figure if I can easily explain my allocation method to an IRS agent, it's probably fine. Since our school's $12,600 allowance covers these reasonable expenses with room to spare, I don't feel pressure to stretch the numbers. One thing my tax advisor emphasized: document your method and stick with it consistently year to year. That consistency actually matters more than having the "perfect" allocation formula.

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I'm experiencing the same frustrating issue! After reading through all these helpful responses, I wanted to share what finally worked for me. I tried Amy's search function tip first - just typed "W2" in the search bar at the top of UKG Pro and it immediately brought up my tax documents. Such a simple solution that I never would have thought of! For anyone still struggling, I also found that the exact menu path can vary by company. In my organization's setup, the W2s ended up under "Myself" > "Benefits & Pay" > "Year-End Tax Documents" rather than just "Pay" like Tyler mentioned. It seems like different companies have customized their UKG Pro interfaces differently after the update. I really appreciate Andre's HR perspective about the Employee Self Service permissions - that explains why the rollout has been so inconsistent for different employees. It's disappointing that UKG and companies aren't communicating these major interface changes better, especially during tax season when people are already stressed about deadlines. Thank goodness for communities like this where we can help each other figure things out! Going to bookmark this thread for next year since they'll probably move everything around again. Thanks everyone for sharing your solutions - you've saved me hours of frustration!

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Caleb Stark

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This whole thread has been a lifesaver! I was about to give up and just call HR tomorrow, but decided to try the search function method first after seeing so many people mention it worked. Typed "W2" in the search bar and there it was - my tax documents were right there! It's honestly embarrassing how long I spent navigating through different menus when the solution was so simple. Your point about different companies having customized menu paths is really important too. It explains why Tyler's directions worked for some people but not others. In my company's UKG Pro setup, I found mine under "Myself" > "Pay & Benefits" > "Tax Information" - yet another variation on the theme! Really grateful for everyone who took the time to share their experiences and solutions here. This is exactly why I love being part of supportive communities like this - when companies fail to communicate properly, at least we can help each other out. Definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference since you're probably right about them moving things around again next year!

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Amina Diallo

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I just wanted to add my experience after struggling with this same issue for days! After trying everything mentioned here, what finally worked for me was a combination of approaches. First, I cleared my browser cache and logged out/back in like Paolo suggested, which gave me the updated interface. Then I used Amy's search function tip - typed "W2" and it immediately showed my tax documents. What's interesting is that in my company's UKG Pro setup, the documents were actually under "Myself" > "Compensation" > "Tax Documents" - yet another menu variation! It really seems like every company has customized their interface differently after this update. I also want to echo what Andre mentioned about Employee Self Service permissions. I called our HR and found out they had to manually enable tax document access for employees hired after September, which is why some of us couldn't see anything even when we were looking in the right places. For anyone still having issues, don't forget to also check if your company requires you to accept an electronic delivery consent form first. I had to do this before I could access any of my tax documents electronically. Thanks to everyone who shared their solutions - this thread literally saved my tax filing deadline! The search function tip should honestly be pinned at the top since it seems to work regardless of how your company has organized their menus.

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This is such a comprehensive summary of all the different solutions! I'm a newcomer to this community and was having the exact same UKG Pro W2 issue. Your point about the electronic delivery consent form is really important - I bet that's catching a lot of people off guard since it's a new requirement many companies added after the update. I just tried the search function approach and it worked perfectly for me too. It's amazing how this one thread has basically become the definitive guide to finding W2s in UKG Pro after their interface changes. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to document their specific menu paths since it's clear every company has customized things differently. This community is incredibly helpful for navigating these frustrating system updates!

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Ravi Gupta

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This is such a comprehensive discussion! I'm in a similar boat - considering lending my sister $16,000 to help with some medical debt and home repairs. After reading through all these responses, I feel much more confident about how to structure this properly. One thing I'm curious about that I don't think was mentioned - if we set up the loan with the minimum AFR rate but my sister struggles to make payments at some point, what are the tax implications of loan forgiveness? Like if after a year she's only able to pay back $10,000 and I decide to forgive the remaining $6,000, does that count as a gift for tax purposes? Also, I noticed several people mentioned the current AFR rates being around 3-4%, but these change monthly right? Should I lock in the rate at the time we sign the promissory note, or does it need to adjust each month? Want to make sure I get this detail right since it seems like proper documentation is so crucial. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread is going to save me a lot of headaches!

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Ellie Perry

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Great questions! Yes, if you forgive any portion of the loan, that forgiven amount is considered a gift for tax purposes. So if you forgive $6,000, that would count toward your annual gift tax exclusion ($18,000 for 2025). As long as your total gifts to your sister for the year (including any forgiven loan amounts) stay under $18,000, there won't be any gift tax consequences for you. Regarding AFR rates - you're correct that they change monthly, but the good news is you can lock in the rate that's in effect when you make the loan! You don't need to adjust it monthly. The IRS publishes the rates each month, and whatever rate applies in the month you originate the loan stays fixed for the entire term. So if you sign the promissory note this month at 3.4%, that rate stays the same even if AFR rates go up or down later. Just make sure to check the IRS website for the current short-term AFR rate (since your loan sounds like it would be under 3 years) right before you finalize your loan documents. This way you'll have the most current rate locked in for the entire loan period.

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Just want to add a practical tip from my experience - when you're setting up the promissory note, include a clear payment schedule with specific due dates (like the 15th of each month). This makes it much easier to track whether payments are being made on time, which the IRS looks for if they ever question whether it's a legitimate loan versus a gift. I also recommend including language about what happens if payments are late (like a grace period) and what constitutes default. It might feel awkward to include these details for family, but having everything spelled out actually protects your relationship by preventing misunderstandings later. One more thing - consider having your brother-in-law sign the promissory note in front of a notary. It's not required by the IRS, but it adds another layer of legitimacy to the documentation and only costs about $10-15. Given that you're dealing with $19,000, the small extra cost for notarization could be worth it for peace of mind. The approach you've outlined based on everyone's advice sounds solid. Just make sure to save copies of everything (the promissory note, payment records, any gift documentation) in a dedicated file - you'll thank yourself later if questions ever come up!

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Great to see you found what you were looking for! Just want to add a quick tip for anyone else in a similar situation - if you're printing the employee copies on perforated paper, make sure to test print one sheet first to check the alignment. Sometimes the margins can be slightly off depending on your printer settings, and you don't want to waste a whole pack of expensive perforated paper. Also, even though you're handling this yourself to save costs, consider keeping records of where you downloaded the templates and when, just in case you need to reference the source later for compliance purposes. The IRS likes documentation trails, especially for small businesses.

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Chloe Harris

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That's really solid advice about test printing! I learned this lesson the hard way with regular business forms - wasted half a box of expensive perforated paper because my printer margins were off by just a few millimeters. For W2s especially, you want those boxes to line up perfectly so the information is readable and professional-looking for your employees. The documentation tip is smart too. I've started keeping a simple spreadsheet with form sources, download dates, and version numbers for all my tax-related templates. Takes 30 seconds to update but could save hours if there's ever a question about compliance or if I need to recreate forms later.

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Lucas Parker

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For anyone still looking for 4-up W2 templates, I'd also suggest checking your local office supply store's website. Places like OfficeMax and Staples often have free downloadable templates that are specifically designed to work with the perforated W2 paper they sell. The templates are usually tested to align perfectly with their paper products. One thing I learned from my CPA is that even though you can print employee copies yourself, it's worth investing in good quality paper and toner for W2s. Your employees will appreciate forms that look professional and are easy to read when they file their taxes. Plus, if they need to mail copies to state tax agencies, clear, crisp printing helps avoid processing delays. Also, don't forget that most states require you to file W2 information with them too, not just the federal SSA filing. Check your state's requirements - some accept electronic filing which can save you from printing additional copies.

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Eve Freeman

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea that office supply stores aligned their templates with their perforated paper - that makes total sense and would definitely save the headache of trying to get margins perfect. The point about state filing requirements is crucial too. I was so focused on getting the federal W2s sorted that I completely forgot each state might have different submission requirements. Better to check that now before I get to the filing deadline and realize I'm missing something important. Do you know if most states accept the same format for their copies, or do some require special formatting like the federal Copy A does?

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