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StarSeeker

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I'm going through the exact same situation right now! Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - I thought I was the only one dealing with this nightmare. I've been trying to reach the IRS lien department for 8 days straight with no success. Every single call has resulted in 2+ hour holds followed by automatic disconnections. I'm closing on May 15th, so I still have a bit more time than you, but I'm already feeling the pressure. After reading this thread, I'm definitely going to try the warm transfer method tomorrow morning at 8 AM Eastern. The idea of calling the main line first and asking to be transferred directly to the lien department is brilliant - I can't believe I didn't think of that approach. I'm also going to prepare that one-page summary sheet that Leila mentioned with all my information organized. Having everything ready will definitely help me sound more professional and prepared when I finally get through. One question for anyone who has successfully used this method - how exactly do you phrase the transfer request to the first agent? I want to make sure I emphasize the urgency without sounding desperate or pushy. Should I mention the specific closing date right away? Thank you all for sharing your experiences. This thread is giving me hope that I can actually resolve this before my closing date!

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Jean Claude

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I just went through this exact process yesterday after reading through all the advice in this thread! For the transfer request, I found that being direct but polite worked best. I said something like: "Hi, I have an urgent situation with a real estate closing scheduled for [specific date]. I need to speak with the lien department about getting a payoff letter, and I understand you may be able to transfer me directly rather than having me wait in their regular queue." The agent was actually very understanding and said they deal with these types of urgent real estate situations regularly. They put me on a brief hold while they contacted the lien department directly, then came back and said they were transferring me to an agent who was aware of my time-sensitive situation. The whole process took about 40 minutes from start to finish, which was incredible compared to my previous failed attempts. Having that one-page summary ready made a huge difference too - I was able to rattle off my SSN, lien serial number, and closing date immediately when the lien agent picked up. You've still got plenty of time with a May 15th closing, so don't stress too much. Just make sure to call right at 8 AM Eastern for the best chance of success. Good luck!

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I'm dealing with this exact same nightmare right now! Closing on my refinance in 12 days and have been calling the lien department for a week straight with zero success. The automatic disconnects after 2+ hours on hold are absolutely infuriating. After reading through all these experiences, I'm definitely trying the warm transfer method first thing Monday morning. The idea of calling the main IRS line at 8 AM Eastern and asking to be transferred directly is genius - I wish I had known about this approach sooner. I'm also going to prepare that detailed summary sheet with all my lien information organized on one page. Having my SSN, lien serial number, and closing date ready will definitely help me sound more professional when I finally get through. For others in similar situations, I want to mention that my mortgage broker suggested another potential workaround - some title companies will accept what's called a "lien subordination agreement" where they acknowledge the lien exists but allow the refinance to proceed with the understanding that the new loan proceeds will pay off the lien. It's not ideal, but it's another option if you absolutely can't get the payoff letter in time. Thank you to everyone who shared their strategies here. This thread is giving me hope that there's actually a way to get through to these people!

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GalacticGuru

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I'm so glad to see more people finding success with the warm transfer method! Your situation with the refinance is just as stressful as the home sales everyone else is dealing with. One thing I wanted to add about the lien subordination agreement your mortgage broker mentioned - that's actually a really good backup option to know about. I hadn't heard of that approach before, but it makes sense that some lenders might be willing to work with that arrangement, especially if they know the loan proceeds are specifically going to pay off the lien. Since you have 12 days, you're in a better position than some of the others who had just days left. But I'd definitely still try the 8 AM Eastern call tomorrow using the warm transfer method. Based on what everyone has shared, it seems like the key is being very specific about your closing date and emphasizing that it's a time-sensitive real estate transaction. Also, don't forget to have your lender's contact information ready when you call - several people mentioned that the IRS agents offered to send the payoff letter directly to their title company or lender, which can save processing time. Good luck with your call tomorrow! This thread has been such a lifesaver for all of us dealing with this same frustrating situation.

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Ruby Blake

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I've been reading through everyone's experiences here and want to add some perspective as someone who went through the whistleblower process about 4 years ago. My case involved a mid-sized company that was systematically misclassifying employees as contractors and underreporting payroll taxes by millions. A few practical tips that might help: First, keep detailed records of when and how you obtained your documentation - the IRS may ask about your access and knowledge. Second, focus on quantifiable violations rather than general observations. They want to see specific dollar amounts, time periods, and clear tax code violations. One thing I wish I'd known earlier is that you can request a preliminary meeting with the Whistleblower Office before formally submitting Form 211. They'll review your situation confidentially and give you guidance on whether your case meets their criteria. This saved me from potentially submitting a weak claim. My case is still ongoing after 4 years, but I received notification last year that it was assigned to an examination team, which my attorney says is a positive sign. The waiting is definitely difficult, but I've found peace in knowing I did the right thing. The tax violations I reported were harming honest businesses who were following the rules and paying their fair share. For those worried about retaliation - document everything and consider consulting with an employment attorney in addition to a tax whistleblower attorney. Having legal protection on multiple fronts can give you more confidence to move forward.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and those practical tips! The idea of requesting a preliminary meeting before submitting Form 211 is something I hadn't heard about before - that could save a lot of time and effort if they can tell you upfront whether your case has merit. Your point about documenting how you obtained evidence is really important. I've been worried about whether having access to certain financial records as part of my normal job duties would be seen as legitimate or problematic. It sounds like being transparent about your access and role when you witnessed the violations is key. The suggestion about consulting with an employment attorney in addition to a tax whistleblower attorney is smart - I hadn't considered the potential need for protection on multiple legal fronts. Given that retaliation seems to be a real concern based on several people's experiences in this thread, having comprehensive legal coverage makes sense. It's encouraging to hear that your case progressed to an examination team after 4 years. Even though the timeline is long, it sounds like persistence and proper documentation do eventually pay off. Your point about protecting honest businesses who follow the rules really reinforces why this process is important, even with all the challenges involved.

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As someone who works in compliance consulting, I wanted to add some perspective on the documentation aspect that several people have mentioned. When organizing your evidence for a whistleblower submission, it's crucial to create a clear timeline that shows the pattern of violations rather than just isolated incidents. I've seen cases where whistleblowers had solid evidence but presented it in a way that made it look like occasional mistakes rather than systematic fraud. The IRS is looking for cases that show intent and significant tax impact. Consider creating a summary document that clearly outlines: (1) the specific tax laws being violated, (2) the approximate dollar impact per violation, (3) the time period involved, and (4) how you became aware of these issues. One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that the IRS Whistleblower Office also considers the administrative burden of pursuing a case. Cases that are well-organized and clearly presented are more likely to be prioritized because they require less investigative work upfront. This is especially important given their limited resources. For those worried about the timeline, remember that large tax cases often involve multiple years of returns and complex audits. The 4-7 year timeframes people have mentioned are unfortunately typical for significant cases, but the IRS's collection efforts can continue for many years, which means your potential award could be calculated on a much larger final collection than the initial assessment.

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Has anyone tried the free fillable forms directly from the IRS website for 1120-S? I'm wondering if that's a viable option to save on software costs while still getting the calculation help.

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Eli Butler

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The IRS doesn't offer free fillable forms for business returns like 1120-S, only for individual returns like 1040. For business returns, you either need to use paid software or fill out the PDF forms manually (which don't do calculations for you). That's why most people either pay for software or hire a professional.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're mailing your 1120-S, make sure you're aware of the March 15th deadline (or September 15th if you filed an extension). The IRS considers it timely filed if it's postmarked by the deadline, not when they receive it. This is different from some other tax situations where actual receipt date matters. Also, double-check that you're using the most current forms for tax year 2024. The IRS sometimes makes small changes to forms between years, and using an outdated version can cause processing delays. You can download the latest versions directly from irs.gov to make sure you have the right ones. One last tip - if your S-Corp had any unusual transactions during the year (like asset purchases, loans, or changes in ownership), you might want to consider at least getting a consultation with a tax professional even if you prepare the return yourself. The basic 1120-S isn't too complicated for simple situations, but certain transactions can have tricky reporting requirements that aren't obvious.

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QuantumQueen

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in the same boat as the original poster - first year S-Corp and trying to decide between DIY vs hiring someone. Your point about unusual transactions is spot on. I had a few equipment purchases this year and I'm not sure if I should be depreciating them or taking Section 179 deductions. Do you think it's worth doing a consultation just for those specific questions, or would most tax pros want to prepare the entire return if I'm asking for advice? I'm comfortable with the basic stuff but those depreciation rules seem really complex.

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Amara Okafor

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This thread is absolutely gold! As someone who just received a Green Dot refund check for $3,400, I was starting to panic after getting turned away from two banks yesterday. Reading through everyone's detailed experiences and solutions has completely changed my approach. The documentation strategy seems bulletproof - I'm definitely calling Green Dot first thing Monday morning for that verification letter, and I love the idea of combining it with the IRS "Where's My Refund" screenshot for maximum credibility. The community bank/credit union route makes so much sense too, especially after seeing how many people succeeded there versus the big chains. One question for those who've been through this - roughly how long did it take to get the verification letter from Green Dot once you called? I'm hoping to get everything sorted this week since my rent is due Friday and this refund would really help with cash flow. Also want to echo what others said about avoiding those predatory check-cashing fees. The fact that people were quoted $200+ to cash their own legitimate tax refunds is absolutely insane. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, practical advice - this community support is incredible! šŸ™

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad this thread has been helpful for your situation. From what I've seen others share, the Green Dot verification letter usually comes pretty quickly - most people mentioned getting it within a few hours to 24 hours via email once they called customer service. Since you need this sorted by Friday for rent, calling first thing Monday should give you plenty of time to get the documentation and make your rounds to different banks/credit unions by mid-week. The combination approach of verification letter + IRS screenshot + tax documents really seems to be the winning formula based on everyone's success stories. You've got this! šŸ’Ŗ

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with a $2,300 Green Dot refund check! After reading through all these incredibly helpful experiences, I feel so much more prepared to tackle this. The verification letter strategy seems like the absolute game-changer here - I had no idea that was even an option until reading this thread. Planning to call Green Dot customer service first thing tomorrow morning to get that documentation. One thing I'm curious about - for those who succeeded with mobile deposit, did you try it before going to banks in person, or after getting rejected? I'm wondering if I should start there since it seems like the least hassle option. Also really appreciate everyone sharing the specific fees they encountered. Knowing that reasonable options exist (like that $5 Costco fee someone mentioned) gives me hope that I won't have to pay those ridiculous $200+ check-cashing fees. This community support is amazing - thank you all for turning what seemed like an impossible situation into a manageable challenge with clear solutions! šŸ™

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I'm self-employed and I've noticed that some of my 1099s show up on the wage and income transcript earlier than others. Usually the bigger companies (like payment processors) get their reporting in faster, while smaller clients sometimes take longer or occasionally miss the reporting entirely. If you're dealing with gig work or multiple income sources, I'd highly recommend keeping your own detailed records rather than relying solely on what the IRS has. In my experience, it's not uncommon for there to be discrepancies, and it's way easier to sort them out if you have your own documentation.

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Carmen Ruiz

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This is super helpful - I do both W2 work and freelance. Do you just track everything in Excel or do you use some kind of accounting software?

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Lucas Adams

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Just to add another perspective - if you're really concerned about accuracy before filing, you could also consider filing an extension to give yourself more time. Form 4868 extends your filing deadline to October 15th, which would give you access to those May wage and income transcripts before you have to submit your return. Keep in mind that an extension to file is NOT an extension to pay - you'd still need to estimate and pay any taxes owed by April 15th to avoid penalties. But if you're dealing with multiple income sources and potential reporting issues, the extra time might be worth it for peace of mind. I did this a couple years ago when I had a similar situation with missing 1099s from freelance work. Being able to cross-reference the official IRS transcript with my records before filing saved me from having to do an amended return later.

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That's actually really smart advice about filing an extension! I never thought about using that strategy to get access to the wage and income transcripts before filing. Quick question though - when you estimate the taxes owed by April 15th, do you just use your best guess based on the documents you have? I'm worried about either overpaying or underpaying significantly if one of my employers didn't report correctly.

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