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How to adjust tax withholding that's way too high at my new job

I just started a new position at a company and I'm completely shocked at my tax withholding situation. Every single pay period they're taking out $1,250.87 for taxes! I knew it would be higher with the new salary but this is ridiculous. At this rate, I'll be getting around $10,000 to $11,500 back when I file my taxes. I honestly don't want ANY tax refund. Getting a huge refund just means I've been giving the government an interest-free loan all year. I want my refund to be as close to $0 as possible. I did the math myself - taking the standard deduction of $13,850 and calculating what I actually owe in each tax bracket, then dividing by 26 pay periods, I should only be withholding about $671 per paycheck. So I tried to figure out how to adjust my withholding by resubmitting my W4 to HR, but after reading through the form multiple times, I can't find anything that lets me specify a LOWER withholding amount. The only options seem to be for withholding EXTRA money. Am I missing something here? Is there actually a way to reduce my withholding to the correct amount? Or is the government deliberately setting it up so we're all forced to give them interest-free loans by over-withholding throughout the year?

You're absolutely right to want to adjust your withholding to match your actual tax liability! The W-4 can be confusing, but there are definitely ways to reduce your withholding. Look at Step 2 of the W-4 form. If you check box 2(c) for multiple jobs or a working spouse, it'll increase your withholding. Make sure this isn't checked unless it applies to you. The key to reducing withholding is Step 3 (Claim Dependents) and Step 4 (Other Adjustments). Even if you don't have dependents, you can use Step 4(b) to account for deductions beyond the standard deduction (like retirement contributions, mortgage interest, etc.). Most importantly, use Step 4(c) in reverse - you can actually put a NEGATIVE number here to reduce withholding. Just write it with parentheses around it, like: ($XX) per pay period. This signals to your employer to withhold less. Alternatively, you can use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online to help calculate exactly what to put on your W-4 to get close to zero refund.

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Wait, you can put a negative number in 4(c)? Are you sure that's allowed? I thought that section was only for requesting ADDITIONAL tax withholding. I've never heard of using parentheses to indicate a negative amount on a W-4.

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You're right to question this - I should clarify. You cannot actually put a negative number in Step 4(c). That section is indeed only for additional withholding. However, you can achieve lower withholding by using Step 4(b) to list additional deductions beyond the standard deduction. For example, if you contribute to retirement accounts, have mortgage interest, or other deductions, listing those will reduce your withholding. The IRS Withholding Estimator is really the best tool to help calculate the right numbers to put on your W-4 to get as close to zero refund as possible.

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Just wanted to follow up - I tried taxr.ai after my questions last week and it was super helpful for my complicated situation. I have my W-2 job plus my side hustle that brings in about $30k annually. The tool showed me I was massively overwithholding at my main job while not setting aside enough for my self-employment taxes. It explained how to adjust both issues - I actually needed to INCREASE my withholding slightly for the self-employment portion but DECREASE it significantly at my main job. The net effect will be getting my refund down from $4200 last year to an estimated $300 next year, which is close enough to zero for me! The step-by-step instructions for filling out the W-4 were really clear. My paycheck is already $237 larger every two weeks after making the changes.

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How does this even work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS. Is this just some paid service that puts you on hold for you? Seems like something I could do myself.

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Yeah right. There's no way any service can magically get you through to the IRS faster. They're just taking your money to do what you can do yourself - wait on hold. The IRS phone system is completely overloaded and no special service can change that. Sounds like a scam.

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It's definitely not sitting on hold for you. They use a system that continuously dials the IRS until they secure an open line, then they call you to connect you directly to the agent. I never had to wait on hold at all - my phone rang and there was an IRS agent ready to talk. The reason it works is because they're using technology to navigate the IRS phone system that most people don't have access to. It's like having a bot constantly trying to get through when lines open up, rather than you manually calling and getting the "call volume too high" message over and over.

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I need to eat my words from last week. After being totally skeptical about Claimyr, I decided to try it as a last resort because I was desperate to fix my withholding issue before another paycheck went out with too much taken out. Honestly, I'm shocked. The service actually worked exactly as advertised. I was connected to an IRS representative in about 15 minutes, and she was incredibly helpful. She explained that for my situation, I needed to use both Step 3 and Step 4 on the W-4 in a specific way that I never would have figured out on my own. The IRS rep confirmed what others have said - the default withholding tables are designed to err on the side of too much withholding for most people. She walked me through exactly what to put on each line of the W-4 to get close to zero. My next paycheck should have about $230 more in it as a result.

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Another option most people don't know about is claiming "EXEMPT" on your W-4. If you had zero tax liability last year and expect to have zero this year, you can just write EXEMPT on line 4(c) and they won't withhold any federal income tax. I've done this for years because my deductions and credits always zero out my liability.

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That's terrible advice for most people! Claiming exempt when you don't actually qualify can result in penalties and interest. You can only legally claim exempt if BOTH: 1) You had zero tax liability last year AND 2) You expect to have zero tax liability this year. Most working people don't meet these requirements!

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You're right that it's only for specific situations. I should have been clearer about the requirements. This only works if you truly owed zero federal income tax last year (after all credits and deductions) AND expect to owe zero this year. I wasn't suggesting everyone should do this - it's just an option some people qualify for and don't know about. For someone with standard income like the original poster who calculated they'll owe over $600 per paycheck in taxes, this definitely wouldn't apply.

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Has anyone actually done the math on the new W-4? I feel like ever since they redesigned it in 2020 and removed allowances, it's impossible to get it right. My wife and I are both high earners and no matter what we do, we either owe thousands or get thousands back.

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The trick for two high earners is to use the Multiple Jobs Worksheet or the online IRS Withholding Estimator. My husband and I were in the same boat until we figured out we needed to put an additional specific dollar amount on line 4(c) for BOTH of our W-4s. If you're both in the higher tax brackets, the standard calculations don't work well.

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The IRS Withholding Estimator at irs.gov/W4App is honestly your best bet here. I was in almost the exact same situation - new job, way too much being withheld, and completely confused by the W-4 form. What I learned is that the problem isn't necessarily with your W-4 setup, but with how your employer's payroll system is calculating withholding. Many payroll systems use annualized calculations that assume you've been earning that salary all year, even if you just started. The Withholding Estimator will ask for your actual pay stubs and calculate exactly what should go in each section of your W-4. In my case, I needed to put a specific dollar amount in Step 4(b) for deductions to reduce my withholding to the right level. Also, don't forget that you can submit a new W-4 anytime during the year if your situation changes. You're not stuck with whatever you filled out on your first day. I've submitted three different W-4s this year as I fine-tuned my withholding. The key is being proactive about it - every paycheck you wait is more money going to an interest-free loan to the government like you mentioned.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm dealing with the same frustrating situation where my new employer is withholding way too much. The part about payroll systems using annualized calculations makes so much sense - I started mid-year but they're treating it like I've been earning this salary since January. I'm definitely going to try the IRS Withholding Estimator this weekend. It's reassuring to know I can submit updated W-4s throughout the year. I was worried I was stuck with whatever I filled out during onboarding when I honestly had no idea what I was doing. Thanks for mentioning the Step 4(b) approach too - I hadn't considered using the deductions section to reduce withholding. Every paycheck that goes by with this over-withholding feels like I'm just giving the government a bigger interest-free loan!

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