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Amina Diallo

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to add a few practical tips from when I handled my uncle's trust rental situation last year. First, definitely keep detailed records of all expenses during that 3-month transition period - not just the amounts, but also which entity (trust vs. your husband personally) actually paid each expense. This becomes important for the depreciation calculations and makes the 1041 much easier to prepare. Second, regarding the attorney fees for the property transfer - these are definitely deductible administrative expenses on the 1041, but make sure to separate any fees that were specifically for transferring the property (deductible to the trust) from any fees for setting up your husband's personal ownership going forward (those would be his personal expenses, not the trust's). One thing I learned the hard way: even though the income might be below $600 after deductions, filing the final 1041 actually saved me headaches later. When we went to sell the property two years later, having that clean paper trail of the trust's final return made it much easier to establish the correct basis for depreciation recapture calculations. The IRS also tends to look more favorably on situations where all the proper forms were filed, even if not technically required. It shows you're trying to do everything correctly rather than just taking shortcuts. Good luck with the filing - it sounds like you're asking all the right questions!

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This is such valuable practical advice, especially about keeping detailed records of who paid what during the transition period! I hadn't thought about how that would affect the depreciation calculations, but it makes total sense. Your point about separating the attorney fees is really helpful too. Looking at our invoices, it looks like most of the fees were for the actual property transfer and trust administration, but there were some charges for setting up new insurance and property management under my husband's name that would probably be his personal expenses rather than trust deductions. The comment about having a clean paper trail for future depreciation recapture is exactly the kind of long-term thinking I needed to hear. We're not planning to sell anytime soon, but having everything properly documented from the start will definitely make things easier down the road. I think we're definitely going to file the final 1041 even if the income ends up below $600 after deductions. Better to have the complete record than to cut corners and regret it later. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with this!

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As someone who dealt with a similar trust rental situation a couple years ago, I'd echo what others have said about filing the final 1041 even if you're below the $600 threshold. The peace of mind is worth it. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned yet: make sure you're properly handling the security deposits. If the trust collected security deposits from tenants, those don't count as income when received, but you'll need to account for how they're transferred along with the property. In our case, we had to show the security deposit liability transferring from the trust to my brother when he took over the property. Also, don't forget about any prepaid rent that might have been collected. If tenants paid first and last month's rent to the trust, that last month's rent is income to the trust when received, even if the tenant doesn't actually occupy the property until after your husband takes ownership. The depreciation timing that others mentioned is crucial - we made the mistake of not prorating it properly for the exact transfer date and had to file an amended return. Make sure you use the actual date control of the property transferred, not just when the paperwork was signed. Filing the final 1041 with all proper documentation really is the cleanest approach. It formally closes the trust's tax obligations and gives you a clear starting point for your husband's ownership records.

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This is such an important point about security deposits that I completely overlooked! We do have a security deposit from the tenant that was collected by the trust, and I hadn't even thought about how to handle that in the transition. So if I understand correctly, the security deposit itself wasn't income to the trust when it was received, but we need to show it as a liability that transfers to my husband along with the property? That makes sense since he's now responsible for returning it to the tenant when they move out. We also did have a situation where the tenant paid both January and February rent in late December to the trust, so that February rent would be income to the trust even though my husband owned the property by February. I can see how these timing issues could get complicated quickly. Your point about using the exact transfer date for depreciation is well taken. We have the deed recorded on March 15th, so I assume that's the date we should use for splitting the depreciation between the trust (Jan 1 - March 14) and my husband (March 15 - Dec 31)? Thanks for bringing up these practical details that could easily be missed!

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Honorah King

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I'm confused about which line on Form 6251 these specified private activity bond interest dividends go on. My tax software seems to be putting them on line 2g, but is that right? Also, if my AMT calculation ends up being lower than my regular tax (which it usually is), do I need to worry about this at all?

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Line 2g on Form 6251 is indeed correct for specified private activity bond interest dividends from Box 13 of your 1099-DIV. This is where you report tax-exempt interest from private activity bonds as a tax preference item for AMT purposes. If your AMT calculation ends up lower than your regular tax, you won't owe any additional tax due to these bonds. The AMT system is designed to ensure you pay at least a minimum amount of tax, so if your regular tax is already higher than the calculated AMT, you only pay the regular tax amount. So in that case, no, you wouldn't need to worry about the AMT implications of these bond interest dividends.

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Sofia Gomez

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who just went through this exact situation, I wanted to add that it's also worth checking if your mutual fund company provides any supplementary tax information beyond what's on the 1099-DIV. Some fund companies will send additional documentation explaining the source of the private activity bond interest and whether it comes from bonds issued before or after August 7, 1986 (which can affect certain calculations). They might also break down which states the bonds were issued in, which could be relevant for state tax purposes. I found that understanding the underlying investments helped me feel more confident about how to handle the tax reporting, especially when explaining it to my accountant. The $2,800 you mentioned is a pretty substantial amount, so it's definitely worth making sure you're handling it correctly!

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That's a really helpful point about the supplementary documentation! I never thought to look for additional information from my mutual fund company beyond the 1099-DIV. Do you know if all fund companies provide this kind of detail, or is it just certain ones? I'm with Vanguard and Fidelity for most of my investments - wondering if I should be looking for something specific from them regarding my private activity bond interest. Also, you mentioned the August 7, 1986 date - what's the significance of that cutoff? Does it change how the bonds are treated for AMT purposes?

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I went through this exact same situation last year and it was so frustrating! My Box 10 was completely blank too, and like you, I thought it meant I had zero property taxes to claim. What I ended up doing was calling my county tax assessor's office directly - they were actually super helpful and could tell me exactly when property taxes were paid on my address and by whom. Turns out my mortgage company had paid taxes twice during the year from my escrow account, but for some reason didn't report it in Box 10. I also found out that since I bought mid-year like you did, I needed to look at my HUD settlement statement from closing. There should be a line item for "real estate taxes" that shows what you paid upfront. In my case, I had paid about $900 at closing that I would have completely missed if I just relied on the 1098. Don't stress too much about it - you're definitely not alone in dealing with incomplete 1098 forms. The key is to track down what you actually paid rather than what the mortgage company reported. Your closing documents and mortgage statements should have all the info you need!

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Thanks for sharing your experience Miguel! This gives me so much hope. I've been putting off dealing with this because it seemed so overwhelming, but calling the county tax assessor sounds way more manageable than trying to decode all these mortgage documents on my own. Quick question - when you called the assessor's office, did you need any specific information beyond just your address? And did they charge anything for looking up the payment history? I'm worried they might want account numbers or other details I don't have readily available. Also, that's a great point about the HUD settlement statement. I remember that stack of papers being massive, but if there's a specific line item to look for, that makes it much easier to find. Did you end up having to amend your return after you found all this missing information, or were you able to catch it before filing?

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I can relate to the anxiety around tax season! The empty Box 10 situation is actually pretty common and definitely doesn't mean you paid zero in property taxes. Since you bought in June and have been making escrow payments, you almost certainly have deductible property taxes. Here's what I'd recommend checking: Look at your year-end mortgage statement (many lenders send these in January) - it should show a breakdown of what was paid from your escrow account for taxes. Also, dig out your closing disclosure from when you purchased - there should be property tax adjustments showing what you paid at closing. The reason Box 10 is empty could be that your lender handles escrow payments to multiple tax jurisdictions, or they simply don't complete that section reliably. Some mortgage companies are notorious for leaving it blank even when they've paid thousands in taxes on your behalf. If you're still confused after checking those documents, consider calling your local tax collector's office with your property address - they can tell you exactly what was paid and when. Don't let the empty box cause you to miss out on legitimate deductions you're entitled to!

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Luca Marino

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This is such solid advice, Destiny! I'm dealing with the exact same situation and your point about the year-end mortgage statement is really helpful. I just checked mine and found a section called "Escrow Account Summary" that shows they paid $2,847 in property taxes throughout the year, even though my 1098 Box 10 is completely blank. I think what's happening is that mortgage companies are required to send the 1098 but Box 10 is optional for them to fill out, so many just don't bother. It's so misleading though - I almost filed thinking I had no property tax deduction at all! One thing I'm still unclear on - if I find property taxes paid both at closing AND from my escrow account during the year, I can claim both amounts on my Schedule A, right? Want to make sure I'm not double-counting anything or claiming something I shouldn't.

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I just wanted to add one more perspective as someone who went through this exact confusion last year. The thing that finally clicked for me was understanding that there are really just two buckets to think about: **Bucket 1: Employer-sponsored retirement (401k)** - Handled automatically through payroll - Pre-tax contributions already reduce your taxable income - Shows up on W-2 but no action needed on your tax return **Bucket 2: Personal retirement accounts (IRA)** - You handle these yourself - Traditional IRA = potential tax deduction (Schedule 1, Line 20) - Roth IRA = no deduction, no reporting needed The confusion comes from thinking you need to "do something" with your 401k on your tax return, but you don't! Your payroll department and the IRS already have that conversation without you. Dylan, for your specific situation: your 401k contributions are already done and dusted. Focus only on that $2,500 IRA contribution - check if your income qualifies you for the deduction, and if so, report it on Schedule 1, Line 20. That's literally it. One last tip: keep a simple file folder with your retirement account statements. When tax season rolls around, you'll have everything in one place instead of scrambling to remember what you contributed where. Future you will thank present you!

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This "two bucket" explanation is perfect! I wish I had seen something this clear when I was first trying to understand retirement contributions. I've been overthinking the whole process, assuming I needed to report everything somewhere on my tax return. Your point about keeping a file folder is spot on too. I've been keeping all my retirement statements in a random drawer and then spending hours trying to find everything when tax season comes around. Starting a dedicated folder today! Thanks to everyone in this thread - between the clear explanations about 401k vs IRA reporting, the income limit details, and the practical tips, I finally feel confident about handling my retirement deductions. This community is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing tax situations.

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As a tax professional, I want to emphasize something that might help prevent future confusion: the reason your 401k contributions don't appear as a separate deduction on your tax return is because they're what we call "above-the-line" deductions that happen before your wages are even reported to the IRS. Think of it this way - when your employer sends your W-2 to the IRS, they're already telling them "Dylan earned X amount of taxable income after accounting for his 401k contributions." The IRS never sees your gross salary before 401k deductions, so there's nothing for you to "claim back" on your return. This is different from other deductions you might be familiar with, like charitable donations or mortgage interest, where you pay with after-tax money and then claim the deduction to get some taxes back. For your IRA situation, I'd also recommend double-checking your modified adjusted gross income calculation before claiming that deduction. Sometimes people forget about other income sources (like investment gains, side gig income, or even unemployment benefits) that could push them over the phase-out limits for IRA deductions. The good news is that even if you can't deduct your traditional IRA contribution due to income limits, you can always recharacterize it as a Roth IRA contribution (as others mentioned) or just keep it as a non-deductible traditional IRA contribution - you'd just file Form 8606 to track the basis.

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Thank you so much for that professional perspective! The "above-the-line" vs "below-the-line" distinction really helps clarify why 401k contributions work differently from other deductions I'm familiar with. I had been thinking of all deductions as things I needed to actively claim on my return, but now I understand that some happen automatically through payroll. Your point about double-checking MAGI is really important too. I do have some freelance income from a side project that I hadn't initially considered when thinking about those IRA deduction income limits. I'll need to make sure I factor in that 1099 income when calculating whether I qualify for the full deduction on my $2,500 traditional IRA contribution. The Form 8606 option for non-deductible traditional IRA contributions is something I hadn't heard about before. If my income does push me over the limits, would it make more sense to recharacterize to Roth or keep it as traditional and file Form 8606? I'm assuming there are pros and cons to each approach depending on individual circumstances?

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Great question about the recharacterization vs Form 8606 decision! It really depends on your specific tax situation and long-term retirement strategy. If you're over the income limits for traditional IRA deductions, recharacterizing to Roth is usually the better choice IF you're also under the Roth IRA income limits (which are higher - $138,000-$153,000 for single filers in 2025). With Roth, you get tax-free growth and withdrawals in retirement, plus more flexibility with required distributions. The non-deductible traditional IRA (Form 8606) route makes sense if you're over the Roth income limits too, or if you're planning to do backdoor Roth conversions in the future. But it's more complex tax-wise since you'll have both deductible and non-deductible traditional IRA money mixed together. Given that you mentioned freelance income pushing you toward the limits, I'd calculate your total MAGI first. Don't forget to include that 1099 income minus any business expenses you can deduct. If you're borderline, you might even consider making additional traditional IRA contributions to bring your MAGI down under the phase-out threshold - it's a bit of a circular calculation but can work out in your favor. The deadline flexibility is your friend here - you have until April 15, 2026 to make these decisions and adjustments for tax year 2025.

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CosmicCadet

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This thread has been incredibly enlightening! As someone who's been doing taxes for a few years but never encountered multiple localities before, I had no idea this was such a common situation for government and school district employees. What really stands out to me from reading everyone's experiences is how the tax software companies have actually made this pretty straightforward to handle - it's just that most of us don't know to look for the "Add another locality" feature. I've been using TurboTax for years and never noticed that button because I never needed it. The explanation about different localities treating pre-tax deductions differently makes perfect sense once you understand it, but it's definitely not intuitive for first-time filers. I think a lot of the confusion comes from expecting all the numbers to "match up" when really they're supposed to be different. For anyone still working through this - the consensus seems clear: don't try to do any math or "fix" the numbers, just enter each locality exactly as it appears in boxes 18, 19, and 20, and trust your software to handle the calculations. The system is designed to work with these multiple entries. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge here. This is exactly the kind of practical, real-world tax guidance that you can't easily find elsewhere!

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Chloe Wilson

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You're absolutely right about the "Add another locality" feature being hidden in plain sight! I've been using various tax software for years but only discovered it this year when I needed it. It makes me wonder how many people overpay for tax preparation services just because they don't realize the software can handle these situations automatically. Your observation about expecting numbers to "match up" is spot on. I think that's the biggest mental hurdle for newcomers - we're conditioned to think something's wrong when we see different amounts, but in this case, the differences are actually the whole point! Each locality is literally telling you "this is how much of your income we consider taxable under our specific rules." What's been really valuable about this thread is seeing how many different scenarios people have encountered - from simple two-locality situations to complex three-locality cases. It shows that once you understand the basic principle (enter each locality separately, exactly as shown), the complexity doesn't really matter. The software handles everything regardless of how many jurisdictions you're dealing with. Thanks for adding your perspective as someone with more tax experience. It's reassuring to know that even people who've been filing for years can learn something new from these discussions!

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AstroAlpha

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to add my voice to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm also filing taxes for the first time and was completely stumped by having two different entries in my W-2 boxes 18-20. What really helped me was reading through everyone's real experiences - especially seeing that so many people initially thought there was an error on their W-2 when it's actually completely normal. The "mini-governments" explanation was a game-changer for understanding why the same deduction gets treated differently by different localities. I work for a municipal library system that apparently spans multiple tax jurisdictions, and now I understand why my Box 18 amounts differ by exactly my parking benefit deduction. One locality taxes it, the other doesn't - just like the health insurance situation described in the original post. I'm feeling much more confident about entering both localities separately in my tax software now. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences - this thread should be pinned for other first-time filers who inevitably run into this same confusion!

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Welcome to the community! It's so great to see another newcomer who found this thread as helpful as I did. Your situation with the municipal library system and parking benefit deduction is a perfect example of how this multiple locality issue shows up in so many different government jobs. What I love about this discussion is how it's created this amazing resource for first-time filers. When I first opened my W-2 and saw those different amounts, I was convinced someone had made a mistake. Now I realize it's just the reality of working in jobs that cross tax boundaries - whether it's school districts, municipal services, or library systems like yours. The parking benefit example is really helpful too because it shows that it's not just health insurance that gets treated differently between localities. It could be any pre-tax deduction - parking, transit passes, dependent care assistance, etc. Each "mini-government" has its own rules about what they consider taxable income. I totally agree this thread should be pinned or saved somehow! The combination of expert explanations and real-world experiences from people in similar situations makes it incredibly valuable for anyone dealing with multiple locality W-2s for the first time. Good luck with your filing - you've definitely got this!

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