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Nia Thompson

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I completely understand your frustration! I went through the exact same thing with our small condo association last year. The good news is that your situation is actually much simpler than you think - you're just using the wrong form. Based on what you've described (member contributions for shared expenses like water/sewer), your condo trust almost certainly qualifies to file Form 1120-H instead of Form 1041. This form was specifically designed for homeowners associations and small condo associations like yours. Here's why 1120-H would be perfect for you: - Your $9,000 in member contributions would be "exempt function income" (completely tax-free) - The $8,200 water/sewer expenses are fully deductible - The $85 bank fees are also fully deductible - You'd only pay taxes on investment income (which you don't have) at a flat 30% rate To qualify, you need 60% of income from member dues (you're at 100%) and 90% of expenses for property maintenance (water/sewer clearly qualifies). You make the election simply by filing 1120-H instead of 1041 - no separate paperwork needed. This would eliminate all your confusion about where numbers go on the 1041 because the 1120-H is designed specifically for situations like yours. I wish someone had told me this before I spent hours wrestling with trust accounting principles that don't really apply to condo associations!

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Sasha Ivanov

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed! I've been banging my head against the wall trying to figure out trust accounting when apparently I should be looking at homeowner association rules instead. One quick clarification - when you say I make the election "simply by filing 1120-H instead of 1041," does that mean I can just abandon my partially completed 1041 in TaxAct and start fresh with 1120-H? Or do I need to somehow notify the IRS that I'm switching forms for this tax year? Also, since this is our first year filing (we just formalized our arrangement in 2024), would there be any issues with starting with 1120-H right away, or should I stick with 1041 for consistency and switch next year?

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Isla Fischer

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Yes, you can absolutely abandon your partially completed 1041 and start fresh with Form 1120-H! There's no need to notify the IRS separately about the switch - the election is automatic when you file the 1120-H form. Since this is your first year filing, you're actually in the perfect position to start with 1120-H right away. There's no "consistency" requirement that would force you to use 1041 first. In fact, starting with the correct form from the beginning will save you headaches down the road. The beauty of the Section 528 election is its flexibility - you can make it year by year just by filing the appropriate form. Many small condo associations like yours discover 1120-H after struggling with 1041 for years and wish they'd known about it sooner. Just make sure to double-check your organizing documents to confirm you're structured as a condo association rather than a for-profit entity, but based on your description of member contributions for shared maintenance expenses, you almost certainly qualify. Your situation sounds textbook perfect for 1120-H treatment.

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I've been helping small condo associations with their tax filings for years, and you're absolutely right to feel frustrated - Form 1041 really wasn't designed for simple condo maintenance situations like yours. The consensus in this thread about Form 1120-H is spot on. Your situation is actually a textbook case for Section 528 treatment: 100% of income from member assessments, expenses clearly for property maintenance, and a straightforward two-unit structure. One additional tip that might help: when you do switch to Form 1120-H, keep detailed records of your qualifying expenses. The IRS occasionally audits small associations, and having clear documentation that your expenses are for "exempt function" purposes (like your water/sewer bills) makes everything smooth sailing. Also, don't feel bad about the confusion with TaxAct - most commercial tax software is terrible for HOAs and condo associations because we're such a niche market. The software assumes you're a traditional trust with beneficiaries, complex distributions, etc., when really you're just neighbors sharing utility bills. Make the switch to 1120-H and you'll wonder why anyone ever told small condo associations to file 1041s in the first place!

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Free Tax Filing Options: VITA and TCE Programs from the Government

I just found out about a couple of free tax services that could save a lot of people money this filing season. The IRS has these programs called Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) and Tax Counseling for the Elderly (TCE) where you can get your taxes done face-to-face for FREE if you make under $73k annually. The VITA program has been around for over 50 years! They offer free help to people who need assistance preparing their tax returns, including: - People making $73,000 or less - Persons with disabilities - Limited English-speaking taxpayers The TCE program focuses on helping people who are 60+ years old, with special attention to pension and retirement questions that seniors often have. What's great is that while the IRS manages these programs, the actual sites are run by IRS partners and staffed by volunteers who want to help their communities. These volunteers are often retired folks working with non-profit organizations that get grants from the IRS. These services aren't just free - they're reliable and trustworthy. All the VITA/TCE volunteers who prepare returns have to pass tax law training that meets or exceeds IRS standards. They're trained on maintaining privacy and confidentiality of all your information. Plus, there's a quality review check for EVERY return before filing! Every tax season, thousands of dedicated VITA/TCE volunteers prepare millions of federal and state returns. They also help people with Facilitated Self-Assistance returns. Has anyone used these services before? I'm thinking about giving it a try this year.

Molly Hansen

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This is such valuable information! I've been doing my own taxes with TurboTax for years but always stress about whether I'm missing deductions or making mistakes. The fact that VITA has trained volunteers AND a quality review process actually sounds more thorough than what I get doing it myself. One question - do they handle situations where you have multiple W-2s from different jobs during the year? I switched jobs in 2024 and have two W-2s, plus I contributed to both a traditional and Roth IRA. Would that be considered too complex for VITA or is that pretty standard stuff they can handle? Also wondering about timing - when do these programs typically start taking appointments for the current tax season? I always like to file early to get my refund quickly.

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Demi Hall

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Multiple W-2s and IRA contributions are definitely within VITA's scope! That's pretty standard stuff they handle all the time. I had a similar situation a couple years ago with three different W-2s from job changes plus retirement contributions, and the VITA volunteer handled it without any issues. For timing, most VITA sites start taking appointments in late January/early February once they receive their tax documents and volunteers complete their annual certification training. Some sites even start advertising appointment availability in mid-January. I'd recommend checking the IRS VITA locator website starting around January 20th to find sites near you and see when they begin scheduling. The early bird approach is smart - not only do you get your refund faster, but appointment slots are much easier to get in February compared to the March/April rush. Plus the volunteers tend to have more time to spend with you when it's not super busy!

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Melody Miles

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I wish I had known about VITA years ago! I've been paying H&R Block around $300 every year for what's essentially a basic return - just my W-2, some student loan interest, and the standard deduction. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it sounds like VITA would have been perfect for my situation and saved me thousands over the years. The quality review process actually gives me more confidence than some of the chain tax prep places where you never know if you're getting someone experienced or a seasonal worker who just finished their training. The fact that these are volunteers who choose to help their community rather than employees trying to upsell services is really appealing. I'm definitely going to look into this for next year's taxes. For anyone else on the fence - it seems like the worst case scenario is you find out your situation is too complex and you're back where you started, but the potential savings and peace of mind from the quality review process make it worth trying. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Tax treatment of synthetic long options positions - capital gains reporting concerns

I'm trying to figure out how synthetic long options are treated for tax purposes and could use some expertise. So a synthetic long is when you buy a call option and simultaneously sell a put option on the same stock, with the same strike price and expiration date. In my situation, I opened a synthetic long when the stock was trading at $52.50, so both options had a $52.50 strike price. I understand that economically it's equivalent to owning 100 shares of the stock for each call/put pair. At expiration, one of two things happens: 1. If price ends above $52.50: My call is valuable, I exercise it, and the put expires worthless 2. If price ends below $52.50: I get assigned on the put, and my call expires worthless Here's what's confusing me about the tax treatment. My broker is showing: Scenario 1: My cost basis for the 100 shares equals strike price ($52.50 Ɨ 100) plus the call premium I paid ($215). And I have a capital gain equal to the put premium I received ($192). Scenario 2: My cost basis for the 100 shares equals strike price ($52.50 Ɨ 100) minus the put premium I received ($192). And I have a capital loss equal to the call premium I paid ($215). But scenario 2 seems like a tax loophole. The stock was $52.50 when I opened the position but only $52.00 at expiration. The call premium was $215. So I've immediately generated a $215 tax loss, while getting a lower cost basis on shares I might not sell for years. Some sources suggest that if you sell a call at a loss and immediately buy the underlying shares, it's a wash sale. That seems similar to scenario 2, except the purchase happens due to put assignment. Does anyone know how this is properly reported for taxes?

NeonNomad

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Another quirk to be aware of - qualified dividends! If your synthetic long crosses an ex-dividend date, any dividend equivalents you effectively receive aren't eligible for qualified dividend tax treatment. With actual share ownership, you can get the preferential qualified dividend tax rate if you meet the holding period requirements. But with a synthetic long, you're technically not receiving dividends - you're just seeing the options prices adjust to account for the dividend. So any dividend benefit gets taxed as ordinary income through the options pricing.

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Wait what? How does the dividend even work with a synthetic long? You don't actually own the shares until expiration/assignment, so you wouldn't get any dividend payment, right?

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You're absolutely right - with a synthetic long, you don't receive actual dividend payments since you don't own the shares. What happens instead is that the options prices adjust on the ex-dividend date to reflect the dividend. Specifically, both the call and put strike prices get reduced by the dividend amount, and if you're holding American-style options, there might be early assignment risk on the short put if the dividend is large enough. The "dividend equivalent" I mentioned refers to how the net value of your synthetic position changes - it should theoretically increase by roughly the dividend amount, but that gain gets captured through the options pricing rather than as a separate dividend payment. This is why it doesn't qualify for the preferential dividend tax rates - you're not actually receiving dividends, just capital appreciation on your options position.

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This is a great discussion on a complex topic. One thing I'd add is that the IRS has been increasingly scrutinizing synthetic positions in recent years, especially when traders use them to manufacture tax losses while maintaining economic exposure to the underlying asset. The wash sale treatment that @Andre Lefebvre mentioned is definitely the correct approach for scenario 2. What many people don't realize is that the IRS views the entire synthetic long strategy as a single integrated transaction, not separate option trades. This is why timing the individual legs differently doesn't necessarily help you avoid wash sale treatment. I'd also recommend keeping very detailed records of your synthetic positions, including the dates opened, premiums paid/received, and your intent when entering the strategy. If you get audited, being able to demonstrate that this was part of a legitimate investment strategy (rather than tax loss harvesting) will be important. The key principle to remember is that tax treatment should follow economic substance. Since a synthetic long has the same risk/reward profile as owning shares outright, the IRS expects the tax consequences to be similar as well.

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Amina Toure

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This is really helpful context about the IRS viewing synthetic positions as integrated transactions. I'm curious though - what constitutes "detailed records" in practice? Beyond the basic trade data, should I be documenting things like market conditions when I opened the position, or my investment thesis? And how do you prove "legitimate investment strategy" versus tax loss harvesting if the economic outcome is identical either way?

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Skylar Neal

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Just wanted to add one important point that might help you - make sure you keep all your relocation documentation organized! I learned this the hard way when I got audited two years after my relocation. The IRS wanted to see receipts for everything my company paid for, even though it was already reported on my W-2. Keep copies of your relocation agreement, receipts for moving expenses, temporary housing documentation, and any correspondence with your employer about the benefits. Even though you can't deduct most moving expenses anymore, having this paper trail saved me during my audit when I had to prove the amounts were legitimate business relocations and not just additional compensation. Also, if you're relocating across state lines, double-check if your new state has any special rules about taxing relocation benefits. Some states treat them differently than the federal government does.

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This is such great advice about keeping documentation! I never would have thought about needing receipts years later if audited. Quick question - when you say "correspondence with your employer," does that include emails where they explained what was taxable vs non-taxable? My HR department sent me a breakdown via email but I wasn't sure if I needed to keep that kind of thing.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is timing - when you receive your relocation benefits can affect which tax year they're reported in. If your company paid some expenses in December 2024 but others in January 2025, they might be split across different W-2s. Also, be aware that some companies use third-party relocation management companies (like Cartus or SIRVA) to handle the payments. In those cases, you might receive a separate tax document from the relocation company in addition to your regular W-2 from your employer. Don't panic if you get multiple tax forms - just make sure you report all the income. And here's something that caught me off guard: if your company provided temporary living expenses that exceeded the federal per diem rates for your area, the excess amount is definitely taxable and should be clearly identified on your tax documents. Worth checking if you stayed in expensive temporary housing!

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Olivia Clark

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For anyone using QuickBooks, there's a specific way to handle this. Set up a separate account for sales tax collected, and when you run reports, make sure to exclude that account from your income reports. Then when you pay the tax to the state, it zeros out that account. Your 1099K will still show the full amount, but your accounting will clearly show what was sales tax vs actual income.

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Thank you for this! I've been doing my accounting wrong then. I've been including sales tax in my income account and then recording an expense when I pay it to the state. Is there a way to fix this for past years or just start doing it correctly going forward?

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You can definitely fix this for past years! In QuickBooks, you'll want to create journal entries to reclassify the sales tax amounts from your income account to a proper sales tax liability account. Then adjust your expense entries to show payments from the liability account instead of as business expenses. For going forward, set up your sales tax items properly so QuickBooks automatically handles the separation. This will make your P&L statements much cleaner and your tax prep easier. Your accountant can help with the journal entries if you're not comfortable doing them yourself - it's a pretty common cleanup they handle.

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Miguel Diaz

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with Amazon FBA sales. Amazon collected and remitted sales tax on my behalf in multiple states, but my 1099-K shows the gross amount including all that tax. One thing I learned from my CPA is to make sure you have documentation showing which portion of your 1099-K represents sales tax that was remitted by the marketplace vs. sales tax you collected and paid yourself. Amazon provides monthly settlement reports that break this down clearly. Also, if you're using estimated tax payments for next year, remember to base your calculations on your actual taxable income (after deducting the sales tax), not the inflated 1099-K amount. I almost overpaid my Q1 estimated payment because I was using the wrong baseline number!

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CosmicCadet

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm also selling on Amazon FBA and was panicking about the huge number on my 1099-K. I had no idea Amazon provided those settlement reports with the sales tax breakdown - where exactly do I find those in Seller Central? I've been dreading tax season because I thought I'd have to somehow figure out the sales tax amounts on my own. And thanks for the tip about estimated payments - I was definitely going to base them on the gross 1099-K amount which would have been way too much!

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