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Rami Samuels

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where our family trust owns multiple LLCs, and I've been going in circles trying to figure out the Section 179 implications. One thing I'd add for anyone reading this - make sure you understand the annual Section 179 limits too. For 2024, the maximum deduction is $1,220,000 with a phase-out starting at $3,050,000 of qualifying purchases. But these limits apply at the individual level, so if you have multiple entities owned by the same grantor trust, you need to coordinate across all of them. Also, don't forget about the "taxable income limitation" - you can't claim more Section 179 than the taxable income from all your businesses combined. This caught us last year when we had a big equipment purchase but lower profits than expected. The combination of using taxr.ai for document analysis and Claimyr to actually talk to the IRS sounds like a solid approach. Sometimes you need that official confirmation from the horse's mouth, especially with complex trust structures.

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Yara Nassar

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Really appreciate you mentioning the coordination across multiple entities - that's something I hadn't fully considered! Our trust owns two different LLCs and I was thinking about the Section 179 limits separately for each one. The taxable income limitation is also a great point. We had a similar issue a few years back where we bought a lot of equipment but had an unexpectedly slow year, so we couldn't use the full deduction. Had to carry some of it forward. Given all the complexity discussed in this thread, it sounds like getting that official IRS confirmation through Claimyr might be worth it just for the peace of mind. Tax law is confusing enough without second-guessing yourself on a big deduction like this!

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Ezra Bates

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This has been an incredibly informative discussion! As someone new to this community but dealing with a similar trust/Section 179 situation, I wanted to share my recent experience. I had been struggling with this exact issue - our revocable trust owns an S-Corp that manufactures custom furniture, and we were looking at a major equipment purchase. After reading through this thread, I decided to try both services mentioned. First, I used taxr.ai to analyze our trust documents. Within 48 hours, I had a comprehensive report confirming that our grantor trust structure would allow the Section 179 deduction to flow through. The analysis was thorough and included specific tax code references. Then I used Claimyr to get official IRS confirmation. After weeks of failed attempts to reach the IRS on my own, I was connected to an agent in about 40 minutes. The agent confirmed the analysis and even provided additional guidance on proper documentation. One thing I'd add to this discussion - make sure your trust documents explicitly identify it as a grantor trust. The IRS agent mentioned that unclear language in trust documents can sometimes create complications during audits. Our attorney had to amend one provision to make the grantor status crystal clear. Total cost for both services was under $500, but it potentially saved us from losing out on a $75,000+ deduction. Sometimes the peace of mind and speed is worth paying for professional analysis rather than spending weeks researching on your own.

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Thank you for sharing your experience with both services! As someone who's been lurking in tax forums for a while but never posted, this thread finally convinced me to create an account and contribute. I'm in a very similar boat - our family revocable trust owns a small manufacturing business (LLC taxed as S-Corp), and we've been putting off a major equipment purchase partly because of confusion about Section 179 eligibility. Your point about ensuring the trust documents explicitly identify grantor status is particularly valuable - I suspect our documents might have some ambiguous language that could cause issues. The combination approach you described (taxr.ai for initial analysis followed by Claimyr for IRS confirmation) seems like the most thorough way to handle this. $500 for that level of certainty on a potential $75k+ deduction is definitely worth it. One quick question - when you spoke with the IRS agent, did they mention anything about how long you should keep the documentation from the analysis? I'm always paranoid about audit trails, especially with larger deductions like this.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Just want to add another important tip - if you're using a credit card to pay your CP14 balance, check if your card offers any cash back or rewards for tax payments. Some cards categorize these payments as "government services" which might earn you points. Also, make sure you're not close to your credit limit before making the payment. I've seen people have their payments declined because they didn't account for the processing fee on top of the balance owed. The last thing you want is a failed payment when you're trying to stop penalties from accumulating! And definitely double-check that you're using one of the IRS-approved processors (PayUSAtax, Pay1040, or ACI Payments). There are some sketchy websites out there that look official but aren't actually authorized by the IRS.

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Isabel Vega

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Great point about checking credit limits! I learned this the hard way when my payment got declined because I forgot about the processing fee. Had to scramble to make a bank transfer instead, which delayed everything by a few days. For anyone reading this - the processing fees are usually around 1.87% to 1.99% of your payment amount, so for a $750 balance you're looking at roughly $14-15 in fees on top of the amount owed. Factor that into your available credit before hitting submit! Also seconding the advice about only using IRS-approved processors. I almost fell for a fake site that looked identical to the real ones but had slightly different URLs. When in doubt, go directly to IRS.gov and click their links to the authorized payment processors.

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I went through this exact same situation last month with a CP14 notice. Here's what worked for me: 1. Use the IRS.gov website to access the approved payment processors - don't Google them separately as there are fake lookalike sites. 2. For the payment category, select "Form 1040 payment" or "Individual tax payment" - there's no specific CP14 option. 3. Make sure to enter the correct tax year from your notice (probably 2024), not the current year you're making the payment. 4. Have your SSN, notice number, and exact balance amount ready before starting. I used Pay1040 and it worked perfectly. The fee was about $15 on a $800 payment. The key thing is making sure all your identifying information matches exactly what's on the CP14 notice so the payment gets applied correctly. One more tip - set up an online IRS account if you don't have one already. Even though their payment system was down when you tried, you can usually track when your payment gets processed and see your balance update in real time once it goes through.

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Rachel Tao

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with IRS notices and was really stressed about messing something up. Your step-by-step breakdown makes it seem much more manageable. Quick question - when you say "set up an online IRS account," is that different from the regular IRS.gov login? I tried creating an account before but got confused by all the different portals they have. Which specific one should I be looking for to track my CP14 payment? Also, did your balance update immediately after payment or did it take the full processing time to show the change? I'm worried I'll keep getting follow-up notices even after I pay if their system is slow to update.

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Raul Neal

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This is such a helpful discussion! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation right now - filed my return two weeks ago and just discovered I missed claiming some charitable deductions that would save me about $800. Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like superseding is definitely the way to go since we're still before the deadline. The point about avoiding penalties and interest on additional taxes is huge, and I like that it becomes the "only" return rather than having two separate filings to track. One question though - for those who've done superseding returns, how do you handle the payment situation? If my original return showed I owed $2,000 but my corrected return shows I only owe $1,200, do I still need to pay the original $2,000 by April 15th, or can I just pay the corrected amount? I don't want to accidentally underpay and get hit with penalties. Also really appreciate the mentions of taxr.ai and Claimyr - I had no idea these services existed! Might have to check them out since I'm definitely not confident about doing this correctly on my own.

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Paloma Clark

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Great question about the payment timing! Since you're filing a superseding return before the deadline, you only need to pay the amount shown on your corrected return ($1,200 in your case). The superseding return completely replaces the original, so the IRS will only see the corrected tax liability. Just make sure your superseding return is properly filed before April 15th and clearly marked as "SUPERSEDING RETURN" at the top. As long as it's filed on time, you'll avoid any underpayment issues since the IRS treats it as your original and only return. I'm new to this community but have been through a similar situation myself. The peace of mind from getting it right the first time (well, second time!) is definitely worth the extra effort of filing a superseding return.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need to correct some 1099-INT reporting that I missed on my original e-filed return. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of keeping good records when you supersede. My tax preparer recommended that I keep copies of both the original return AND the superseding return, along with a detailed note explaining what changed and why. This way if there are ever any questions down the road, I have a clear paper trail showing the corrections were made in good faith before the deadline. Also, for anyone considering the paper filing route for superseding returns - make sure to send it certified mail with return receipt. Given how important it is that the IRS receives and processes the superseding return before they process your original e-filed one, having proof of delivery and timing can be crucial if there are any processing delays or mix-ups. The deadline stress is real, but it sounds like superseding is definitely the right approach when you catch errors this close to April 15th!

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Levi Parker

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Congratulations on your new baby! Your situation is totally manageable. Since you completed your OIC in 2021, you're well within the 5-year compliance period, but that doesn't prevent you from setting up payment plans for new tax debts. The key thing is to act promptly - file your 2023 return on time (or request an extension) and set up the payment plan before the payment deadline. This actually helps demonstrate compliance with your OIC terms rather than hurting it. Given that you're on short-term disability with a newborn, I'd strongly recommend being conservative with your monthly payment amount. With a $9,500 balance, you could set up a plan for as low as $130-140/month and still pay it off within the IRS's 72-month maximum timeframe. You can always increase payments later when you're back to full income. The online payment agreement tool is probably your best bet for quick setup. Just keep in mind the current interest rate is around 8% annually, so if you have low-interest alternatives available, it might be worth comparing the total cost.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I'm leaning toward the payment plan route since it gives me more financial cushion while adjusting to life with a newborn. Quick question - when you mention filing on time or requesting an extension, does the extension also extend the payment deadline, or do I still need to pay (or set up the payment plan) by the original April deadline to stay compliant with my OIC?

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Caleb Stone

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Great question! An extension only extends the filing deadline, not the payment deadline. You still need to pay what you owe (or set up a payment plan) by the original April 15th deadline to avoid additional penalties and stay compliant with your OIC terms. So if you're planning to request an extension to file your 2023 return, make sure you still address the payment situation by April 15th - either by paying in full or setting up the installment agreement. The good news is you can set up a payment plan even before you file your return, as long as you have a good estimate of what you owe. This is actually a common misconception that trips people up - extensions are for filing only, not paying. Since maintaining compliance with your OIC is crucial, definitely don't let the payment deadline slip even if you extend your filing deadline.

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Andre Moreau

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I'm in a very similar situation - had an OIC accepted in 2019 and now dealing with new tax debt while on reduced income. What really helped me was understanding that the IRS actually prefers you to proactively set up a payment plan rather than just letting the debt sit there. One thing I learned the hard way is to make sure you communicate with the IRS about your situation. When I called to set up my payment plan, I mentioned that I had a previous OIC and was currently on reduced income due to medical reasons. The representative noted this in my file and actually suggested a lower monthly payment than I had initially requested. Also, since you're on short-term disability, you might qualify for Currently Not Collectible (CNC) status if your financial situation is truly dire. But given that you have some savings and just want to preserve your emergency fund with a new baby, the payment plan sounds like the smarter approach. The peace of mind is worth it - especially when you're already dealing with the stress of a newborn and recovery from childbirth. You're being responsible by addressing this promptly rather than ignoring it.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the same situation! I hadn't thought about mentioning my medical situation when I call - that's a great tip. The idea of proactively communicating rather than just setting up the payment plan online makes a lot of sense too. You mentioned Currently Not Collectible status - I'm curious, does going CNC have any impact on OIC compliance? I assume since I do have some ability to pay (just want to preserve emergency funds), the payment plan is definitely the better route, but good to know that option exists if things get worse. Thanks for the perspective on peace of mind too. You're absolutely right that the last thing I need right now is to be stressed about tax compliance on top of everything else with the new baby.

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Jamal Brown

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One approach that's worked really well for me is using a hybrid strategy. I calculate a baseline quarterly payment using the safe harbor method (100% or 110% of last year's tax), but I make it slightly lower - maybe 80% of that amount. Then I supplement with increased W-4 withholding from my regular job later in the year once I have a clearer picture of my actual gains. This gives me the best of both worlds: I'm covered by the safe harbor rules so I won't get penalties, but I'm not massively overpaying early in the year when my trading results are still unknown. If I end up having a great year in the markets, I can always increase my payroll withholding in Q3 or Q4 to cover the difference. If the market tanks and I have losses, I'm not stuck having overpaid by huge amounts in my early quarterly payments. The key insight is that you don't have to choose just one method - you can combine estimated payments with increased withholding to create a more flexible approach that adapts to your actual trading results throughout the year.

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This hybrid approach is brilliant! I've been stressing about either massively overpaying with the safe harbor method or risking penalties with estimates that are too low. Using 80% of the safe harbor amount as a baseline plus W-4 adjustments later makes so much sense - you get penalty protection while maintaining flexibility. Do you typically wait until after Q2 to assess whether you need to increase your withholding, or do you check in more frequently throughout the year?

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GalaxyGlider

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This is such a common struggle with unpredictable investment income! I've been through this exact situation and here's what I learned: the key is understanding that the IRS safe harbor rules are designed specifically for situations like yours where income is hard to predict. The 100%/110% of prior year tax rule is actually your friend here, even if it feels like you're overpaying. Think of it as insurance against penalties - you're guaranteed to avoid underpayment penalties regardless of what happens in the markets. And if you do overpay, that money comes back to you as a refund (essentially an interest-free loan to the government, but better than paying penalties). For someone in your situation with $35k in unexpected gains, I'd recommend calculating your total 2024 tax liability and then paying 100% of that amount (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k) in equal quarterly installments for 2025. This gives you complete peace of mind while you're focusing on your trading decisions. Also consider the hybrid approach another member mentioned - you can combine quarterly payments with increased W-4 withholding from any regular job income to create more flexibility as the year progresses. The most important thing is getting started with some system rather than doing nothing and risking penalties again.

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Maya Diaz

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat - had some crypto gains last year that caught me completely off guard. One thing I'm wondering about is timing. If I'm using the safe harbor method and paying 100% of last year's tax, do I need to make those quarterly payments exactly on the due dates, or is there some wiggle room? I missed the January 15th payment this year because I was still figuring all this out, so I'm not sure if I should just wait until April 15th for the next one or if there's a way to catch up.

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