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Has anyone used TurboTax to try to claim this? I feel like it used to let me enter unreimbursed job expenses but now I can't find where to do it.

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Lucas Schmidt

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TurboTax removed that section for federal returns because those deductions were suspended by the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. But if you click on your state return in TurboTax, some states still allow these deductions. I'm in New York and was able to deduct my unreimbursed expenses on my state return last year, including part of my phone bill.

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Just wanted to add some clarity here since there's been a lot of discussion about different options. The bottom line is that for most W-2 employees, you cannot deduct personal cell phone expenses on your federal tax return for 2024 - this has been suspended since 2018 and continues through 2025. However, there are a few legitimate options worth exploring: 1. **State returns**: Some states still allow these deductions even though federal doesn't. Check your specific state's rules. 2. **Employer reimbursement**: This is really your best bet. Document your work usage percentage and approach HR with a business case. Many companies will reimburse at least partially once they understand the cost. 3. **Mixed employment status**: If you have any self-employment income (1099 work, side business, etc.), you may be able to allocate a portion of phone expenses to Schedule C. For documentation, you don't need to log every single call and text. The IRS generally accepts reasonable estimates if you can show how you calculated your work vs. personal usage percentage. Keep records of your method and any supporting documentation. The key is being realistic about your work usage percentage and having a logical way to support that number if questioned.

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Ayla Kumar

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This is really helpful - thank you for the comprehensive breakdown! I'm in a similar boat to the original poster and didn't realize some states still allow these deductions. I'm in California so I'll definitely check into that for my state return. One quick question about the documentation - when you say "reasonable estimates," do you have any suggestions for how to track work vs personal usage without it being a huge hassle? I feel like I could estimate I use my phone about 65% for work but I'm not sure how to back that up if the IRS ever asks.

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Freya Collins

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Don't panic - this is actually more common than you think! I work as a tax preparer and see this situation several times each filing season. Here's my recommended action plan: 1. **Pay immediately** - Go to irs.gov and use Direct Pay to submit your $2,400 payment today. This protects you from failure-to-pay penalties and stops interest from accruing. You'll get a confirmation number that proves when you paid. 2. **Check if it was actually received** - Create an account on the IRS website and pull your tax account transcript. Sometimes returns are received and being processed even when tracking shows "In Transit." The transcript will show if they have any record of your return. 3. **Call the Practitioner Priority Line** - If you can't get through on the regular line, try calling early morning (7-8 AM) when hold times are shorter. Have your SSN, filing status, and prior year AGI ready. 4. **Wait 6-8 weeks total before refiling** - Paper returns are taking much longer to process this year. I've had clients' returns show up in the system 7-8 weeks after mailing, even when USPS tracking never updated. 5. **Keep everything** - Save your tracking number, mailing receipt, payment confirmation, and any screenshots of your account transcripts. This documentation will be crucial if you need to request penalty abatement later. You're not going to get in trouble for a lost return - the IRS deals with this regularly. The key is making that payment ASAP to minimize any potential penalties!

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Gael Robinson

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, professional advice I was hoping to find! As someone dealing with this stressful situation for the first time, having a clear step-by-step plan really helps calm my nerves. I'm definitely going to make that payment today - I had no idea I could pay separately from filing the return. Quick question about the tax account transcript - how long does it typically take for a new account to be verified? I'm wondering if I should set that up now or if it's going to take too long to be useful for checking on my current return.

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Nia Davis

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The IRS online account verification is usually pretty quick - typically 1-3 business days if you verify online using your credit report info. If you can't verify online, they'll mail you a verification code which takes 5-10 business days. I'd definitely recommend setting it up now even if it takes a few days. The account transcript is one of the most reliable ways to see what the IRS actually has on file for you, and it's updated more frequently than the "Where's My Refund" tool. Plus, once you have the account set up, you can use it for future years too. In the meantime, definitely make that payment today like @09e265603041 suggested. Even if your return is just sitting in a processing queue somewhere, having that payment timestamp will give you huge peace of mind and protect you from the more expensive penalties.

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Evelyn Kelly

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I went through almost the exact same thing last year - mailed my return on April 2nd and the USPS tracking got stuck on "In Transit" for over a month. I was absolutely panicking because I owed money too! Here's what ended up happening: My return was actually delivered and received by the IRS, but their internal processing was just really backed up. It took almost 7 weeks before it showed up in their system, even though USPS tracking never updated past "In Transit." My advice based on what worked for me: 1. **Make your payment TODAY** - Don't wait another day. Use the IRS Direct Pay system to pay that $2,400 immediately. This is the most important step because it stops penalties and interest from building up. 2. **Give it 6-8 weeks total** before assuming it's truly lost. I know that feels like forever when you're stressed, but paper returns are taking much longer than usual to process this year. 3. **Check your bank account** - If you paid by check like I see you mentioned in another comment, look for whether the check has cleared. That's often the first sign the IRS received your return. 4. **Set up an IRS online account** to check your tax transcript. This will show if they have any record of receiving your return, even if it's not fully processed yet. I ended up not having to refile at all - my original return eventually showed up and was processed normally. The stress was awful, but everything worked out fine. Try not to panic (easier said than done, I know!) and focus on making that payment first.

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The Boss

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Has anyone tried selling the car privately instead of donating or trading in? I know it's more work, but I sold my old Nissan for almost double what the dealer offered for trade-in. Just a thought if maximizing the money is the priority.

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I did this last year. Posted on Facebook Marketplace and sold my 2012 Civic for $6,400 when the dealer only offered $3,800. Took some time dealing with potential buyers and test drives, but totally worth it for the extra cash. Just make sure to meet in a safe place and handle the title transfer properly!

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I did a basic detailing job myself - thorough vacuum, wiped down all surfaces, and washed/waxed the exterior. Cost me about $30 in supplies and 4 hours of my time. I also replaced a broken cupholder ($15 part) and fixed a squeaky door hinge ($4 WD-40). Nothing major. The big thing that helped was having all maintenance records organized in a folder to show potential buyers. That seemed to give them confidence that the car had been well cared for. I also got an inspection report from my mechanic ($45) that showed the car was in good shape, which helped justify my asking price when people tried to negotiate.

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Nia Watson

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Great thread! I just went through this exact decision last month with my 2010 Toyota Camry. After reading all the advice here about itemizing vs standard deduction, I realized I needed to look at my whole tax picture. Turns out I was only at about $8,000 in potential itemized deductions (state taxes, small charitable donations, etc.), so even adding a $4,000 car donation wouldn't get me close to the $13,850 standard deduction threshold. That meant zero tax benefit from donating. I ended up selling privately like some folks suggested here. Got $5,800 for a car the dealer wanted to give me $3,200 for. It took about 2 weeks and maybe 6-7 test drives, but the extra $2,600 was definitely worth the hassle. Plus no complicated tax implications to worry about. The key lesson for me was that the tax "benefit" of donating only matters if you're already itemizing or the donation pushes you over the standard deduction threshold. Otherwise you're basically giving away money for no tax advantage.

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CyberSamurai

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my 2011 Honda Accord. Quick question - when you sold privately, did you have any issues with people wanting to finance through their bank or credit union? I'm worried about dealing with loan paperwork and making sure I get paid properly if someone needs financing.

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Oliver Schulz

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Just a heads up - you might also need to amend your state tax return if you're in a state that offers tax benefits for 401k contributions. The excess amount wouldn't qualify for state tax benefits either. Also, make sure you coordinate with BOTH former employers. Sometimes when you have two jobs in one year, each employer doesn't know about the other's plan, so neither will automatically flag the excess.

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This is a good point about state taxes. I'm in California and had to deal with this on my state return when I over-contributed to my 403b. The state adjustment was actually more complicated than the federal one!

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Nick Kravitz

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand the timing of when you need to take action. Since you haven't filed your 2023 return yet, you actually have until you file that return to get the excess contribution corrected without it being considered a "late" correction. However, the 6% excise tax on Form 5329 will still apply for 2023 since the excess remained in your account past December 31, 2023. The good news is that once you get the corrective distribution, you won't owe the 6% penalty for 2024 and beyond. Also, when working with your plan administrator, make sure they calculate the earnings (or losses) correctly using the "earnings calculation method" - they should track the performance of your specific contributions. If your account lost money during that period, the corrective distribution will actually be less than the $800 you over-contributed. Document everything carefully - keep all correspondence with your plan administrator and make sure you get the proper 1099-R when the distribution is processed. You'll need this for your tax filings.

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Ava Garcia

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This is really helpful clarification on the timing! I'm curious though - when you say the excess needs to be corrected "before filing the 2023 return," does that mean I need to actually receive the corrective distribution before filing? Or is it enough to just initiate the process with my plan administrator? I'm worried about further delaying my 2023 filing if I have to wait for the actual distribution to come through.

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This has been such an enlightening discussion! As someone who works in tax preparation, I want to emphasize how refreshing it is to see a community thread where people are actually getting the gift tax rules right. Too often I see confusion about this topic, with people thinking recipients owe taxes on gifts or that gifts from multiple people get combined. The advice here is spot-on: you won't owe any taxes on these gifts, and the annual exclusion applies separately to each giver. What I'd add from a professional perspective is that it's also worth understanding that even if your uncle or family friend exceeded the annual exclusion amount, they still likely wouldn't owe any actual taxes - they'd just need to file Form 709 and it would count against their lifetime exemption. One additional consideration for your situation: make sure both parties understand that this needs to be a true gift with no strings attached. If there's any expectation of repayment or conditions (like maintaining certain grades, working for the family business, etc.), it could complicate the gift characterization. You're incredibly fortunate to have this support system! Getting rid of student debt this early will compound your financial advantages for decades to come.

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Vince Eh

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Thank you so much for the professional perspective! As someone who's just learning about all these tax rules, it's really reassuring to hear from someone who works in tax preparation that the advice in this thread is accurate. I've been reading through IRS publications trying to understand gift taxes, but the way everyone here has explained it with real examples makes it so much clearer. Your point about making sure the gifts are truly "no strings attached" is really important - I hadn't thought about how conditions or expectations could complicate things. It makes sense that the IRS would want to distinguish between genuine gifts and other types of transactions disguised as gifts. This whole thread has been incredibly educational about not just the immediate tax implications, but also the broader financial planning considerations. The community knowledge here is amazing!

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Zoe Kyriakidou

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As someone who recently went through a similar situation with family help for student loans, I can confirm everything that's been said here is accurate! I received gifts from both my parents and my aunt to help with my loans, and it was completely tax-free for me as the recipient. What really helped me was understanding that gift taxes are designed to prevent wealthy people from avoiding estate taxes by giving away large sums - they're not meant to penalize normal family financial assistance. The annual exclusion amounts ($17k for 2024, $18k for 2025) are specifically set up to allow this kind of generous help without any tax complications. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're emotionally prepared for being debt-free so young! I know that sounds silly, but going from having monthly loan payments to suddenly having that money available for savings and investments can be overwhelming in the best way. Consider setting up automatic transfers to savings or retirement accounts so you don't accidentally lifestyle-inflate and lose the benefit of this amazing gift. You're so fortunate to have people willing to invest in your future like this. The compound effect of starting your career debt-free is going to be incredible for your long-term wealth building!

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Andre Dupont

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This is such great advice about being emotionally prepared for being debt-free! I never would have thought about that aspect, but it makes total sense. Having that extra money each month must feel almost surreal after budgeting around loan payments for so long. Your point about setting up automatic transfers is really smart - it would be so easy to just let that money disappear into everyday spending without a plan. The idea of lifestyle inflation eating up the benefits of such an incredible gift would be tragic. As someone still figuring out my own student loan strategy, this whole thread has been incredibly valuable. The combination of getting the tax rules straight AND thinking about the broader financial and emotional implications is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance that's hard to find. Thanks for sharing your experience with going through this process!

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