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For those who had to go through identity verification with the IRS - did you complete the ID.me process? I'm trying to understand the full verification workflow. Did you also receive physical letters and notifications through the IRS portal? Were you able to complete everything online, or did some steps require offline verification? Just finished my master's and dealing with this for the first time with my more complex tax situation.
Hey everyone, I participated in my first union strike last summer for about 2 months. Now that tax season is here, I'm confused about how to handle my paperwork. My employer sent me a normal W-2 for the time I worked, but the union gave me a 1099-MISC with the strike pay listed in box 3. There wasn't any tax withheld from these payments. I'm not sure how to file this correctly. Do I just treat it like any other 1099-MISC income? Do I need to specifically indicate it was strike pay somewhere, or is the fact that it came from the union sufficient explanation? I'm worried about how this will be taxed - will the IRS consider this self-employment or contractor income? I'm using OnLine Tax software through the IRS free file program. Any advice would be really appreciated! This is my first time dealing with strike pay and I don't want to mess up my taxes.
Great discussion here! I'm dealing with a similar situation from a strike I participated in last fall. One thing I want to add for anyone else reading this - make sure to keep good records of exactly when you received your strike pay versus your regular wages. In my case, the strike crossed over from December into January, so some of my strike pay will be reported on this year's taxes even though the strike started last year. The 1099-MISC shows the total amount paid in the tax year, not when the strike actually occurred. Also, if you received any strike benefits in addition to strike pay (like help with utilities or groceries from the union), those might be handled differently for tax purposes. My union provided some emergency assistance during the strike, and I'm still trying to figure out if that needs to be reported as income too. The advice about setting aside 15-25% for taxes is spot on - I learned that the hard way when I got hit with a bigger tax bill than expected!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm a tax preparer and wanted to add a few clarifications for anyone else dealing with strike pay: 1. **Quarterly estimated taxes**: If you expect to receive strike pay again or have other income without withholding, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties next year. 2. **State variations**: Each state handles strike pay differently. Some states don't tax it at all, while others treat it the same as federal (regular income tax but no employment taxes). Check your state's specific rules. 3. **Documentation**: Keep all your strike-related paperwork together - the 1099-MISC, any correspondence from your union, and records of when you were on strike versus working. This helps if the IRS has questions later. 4. **Multiple unions**: If you received strike pay from multiple unions or participated in strikes with different locals, you might receive multiple 1099-MISC forms. Each one gets reported separately, but they all go in the same "Other Income" category. The advice given here about Schedule 1, Line 8z is absolutely correct. Just remember that "Other Income" is still fully taxable at your regular income tax rates - it's just not subject to Social Security and Medicare taxes like regular wages would be.
California generally follows federal treatment for strike pay - it's taxable as regular income but not subject to disability insurance (SDI) or employment training tax. You'll report it on your CA tax return the same way you do federally. The FTB website has specific guidance, but the bottom line is that if it's taxable federally as "other income," California will tax it too. For the quarterly payments, definitely consider it if you think there might be another strike. California requires estimated payments if you'll owe more than $500, and strike pay without withholding can easily push you over that threshold. One thing to watch for in California - if your total income including strike pay puts you in a higher tax bracket, you might benefit from timing any other discretionary income (like selling investments) to smooth out your tax liability across years. But that's getting into more advanced planning territory!
California generally follows federal treatment for strike pay - it's taxable income subject to state income tax but not subject to State Disability Insurance (SDI) or other employment taxes. You'll report it on your CA 540 in the same way you report it federally. However, California has some unique rules around labor disputes, so I'd definitely recommend checking the FTB website (ftb.ca.gov) or Publication 1001 for the most current guidance. They sometimes have specific instructions for strike pay reporting. Since you mentioned potential future strikes, you might want to consider making estimated tax payments if the amounts are significant. California requires estimated payments if you expect to owe more than $500 in tax after withholding and credits. The FTB has worksheets to help calculate this if needed. Keep those strike records handy - California can be pretty thorough in their reviews, especially for less common types of income like strike pay!
Hey everyone, I got married back in October 2023 and I just realized during open enrollment that I completely forgot to update my status from single to married with my HR department. I'm kind of freaking out about this now. Should I change it right away or is it fine to leave it as long as I file taxes as married? This whole situation has me really stressed and I've been putting off dealing with it because I'm worried I've messed up my taxes for the year. Has anyone dealt with this before? Am I going to end up owing a ton when tax time comes around? Thanks for any advice!
Just wanted to add that you should also consider doing a "paycheck checkup" using the IRS withholding calculator on their website (irs.gov/W4App) once you update your status with HR. It's free and will help you determine if you need to make any additional adjustments to your withholding for the rest of the year. Since you got married in October 2023, you'll likely want to file as married for your 2023 taxes (you can choose married filing jointly or married filing separately - joint is usually better but not always). The calculator will help you figure out if you're on track for 2024 withholding too. Also, don't forget that marriage can affect other things like your FSA/HSA contribution limits if you both have accounts, and whether you're eligible for certain employer benefits. It's worth reviewing all of that while you're updating your HR records!
I work as a tax preparer and see this situation constantly - you're definitely not the first person to forget updating HR after getting married! The good news is that this usually works out in your favor financially. Since you've been withholding at the "single" rate all year, you've likely been overpaying taxes with each paycheck. When you file your 2023 return as married (which you should, since you were married as of December 31st), you'll probably get a nice refund. However, I'd strongly recommend updating your W-4 with HR immediately for 2024. If both you and your spouse work, make sure to check the "Two Jobs" box or fill out the multiple jobs worksheet to avoid underpaying next year. The marriage penalty/bonus really depends on your combined income levels and how similar your individual incomes are. One tip: if you're concerned about owing for 2024, you can also request additional withholding on your new W-4 to make up for any shortfall from the months you've already worked this year. The IRS withholding calculator mentioned by others is spot-on for figuring out exactly what you need to do.
Great questions! With similar incomes around $65k each, you're actually in a pretty good spot - married filing jointly will almost certainly be better than filing separately. The marriage penalty typically kicks in more severely when both spouses are high earners (think $100k+ each) or in certain specific situations with itemized deductions. For the additional withholding calculation, yes, you'd use box 4(c) on the W-4. Here's the easiest way to figure out the amount: Use the IRS withholding calculator (irs.gov/W4App) that others mentioned - it will tell you exactly how much extra to withhold per paycheck. You can also do a rough calculation by estimating your total tax shortfall for the year and dividing by the number of remaining paychecks. For example, if you think you'll owe an extra $1,200 when you file and you have 12 paychecks left this year, you'd put $100 in box 4(c). The withholding calculator makes this much more precise though, since it factors in your actual income, deductions, credits, etc. With both of you earning $65k, I'd definitely recommend married filing jointly and just focus on getting that W-4 updated ASAP!
Great questions! For the marriage penalty/bonus, couples with similar incomes (like you and your spouse at ~$65k each) are actually in one of the situations where you might see a small marriage penalty, especially in the middle-income brackets. However, with your combined income of around $130k, the penalty is usually pretty minimal - maybe a few hundred dollars at most. I'd still recommend running both scenarios (joint vs separate) when you file, but married filing jointly is better about 95% of the time due to the higher standard deduction and access to more credits. The main time separate makes sense is when one spouse has high medical expenses or miscellaneous deductions. For additional withholding, yes - box 4c is exactly right! The IRS withholding calculator will give you the specific dollar amount to put there. It's much more precise than trying to adjust your allowances. For example, if you need an extra $1,200 in withholding for the year and you have 8 paychecks left, you'd put $150 in box 4c ($1,200 รท 8 = $150 per paycheck). Pro tip: keep your pay stubs from before and after updating your W-4 so you can track the changes and make sure the math worked out correctly!
I'm using TurboTax and just sold my work van that I used for my plumbing business about 95% of the time. I originally bought it for $15,000 about 6-7 years back and just sold it for $19,800. When entering this in TurboTax, it's asking for two things that have me completely stumped: "Basis gain/loss (enter 100% of basis)" and "Basis for AMT gain/loss (enter 100% of basis)". I've spent hours going through their help section and searching online, but still can't figure out how to calculate either of these values. I'm worried about getting this wrong since it's a business asset and I don't want any audit flags. Can anyone explain in simple terms how to determine these two basis values? I've been depreciating the van each year if that matters. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Has anyone mentioned Form 4797? You'll need to fill this out when reporting the sale. Part of your gain might be subject to depreciation recapture at ordinary income tax rates, while another portion might qualify for capital gains treatment. TurboTax should walk you through this, but it needs those basis figures first.
I went through this exact same situation last year with my contractor van! The key thing to remember is that you need to look at ALL your past tax returns to add up the total depreciation you've claimed over the years. For your "Basis for gain/loss" - take your original $15,000 cost and subtract every penny of depreciation you've claimed on that van since you bought it. If you claimed $10,000 total in depreciation over those 6-7 years, your basis would be $5,000. For the "AMT Basis" - this is trickier because AMT uses different depreciation schedules (usually slower depreciation), so your AMT basis will likely be higher than your regular basis. One tip: since you used it 95% for business, make sure you're only entering the business portion when TurboTax asks. The personal use portion (5%) gets handled separately. Don't stress too much about audit flags - as long as you're reporting the sale and have reasonable documentation of your depreciation over the years, you should be fine. The IRS expects business vehicles to be sold eventually!
Yes, "every penny of depreciation" includes bonus depreciation, Section 179 deductions, and any other accelerated depreciation you claimed! These all reduce your basis just like regular MACRS depreciation does. If you don't have all your old returns, you can request transcripts from the IRS website (irs.gov) - they're free and show the key figures from your past returns including depreciation amounts. You can also contact your old tax preparer if you used one, as they often keep copies for several years. Another option is to look at your depreciation schedules if you kept them - these would show the annual depreciation amounts for each asset. The key is getting the total cumulative depreciation taken since you bought the van, regardless of what method was used.
Yes, absolutely! When I say "every penny of depreciation," that includes bonus depreciation, Section 179 deductions, and any other accelerated depreciation you may have claimed. These all reduce your basis just like regular MACRS depreciation does. If you don't have all your old returns, you have a few options: 1) You can request transcripts from the IRS website (irs.gov) going back several years for free, 2) Contact your previous tax preparer if you used one - they often keep records, or 3) If you filed electronically, check if your tax software company has online access to your past returns. The IRS transcripts will show your depreciation amounts from Form 4562 each year, which is exactly what you need to calculate your total depreciation taken. Just add up all the amounts for your specific vehicle across all the years you owned it.
Fellow Michigan taxpayers... I'm trying to plan my budget for upcoming expenses and I'm wondering about timing. After completing the ID verification process for your Michigan state tax return, approximately how much longer did you have to wait before receiving your state refund? According to the MI Treasury website it says 2-4 weeks, but I've been reading mixed experiences on TurboTax forums and Facebook groups. Anyone go through this recently?
I verified my Michigan state return on March 5th and received my refund on March 20th - so 15 days exactly. I did the online verification through michigan.gov/mytaxes where they asked questions about my previous addresses and some account information. The process was pretty straightforward and took about 10 minutes. What I found helpful was checking the status every few days rather than obsessing over it daily. The website updates are pretty reliable, and once it switched to "refund issued" the money was in my account within 1-2 business days. Based on what I'm seeing here, it looks like most people are getting their refunds within 2-3 weeks after verification, which is consistent with what Michigan Treasury advertises. I'd plan for 3 weeks to be safe, but you'll likely see it sooner.
This is exactly the kind of detailed timeline I was hoping to see! I'm new to filing Michigan taxes and wasn't sure what to expect with the ID verification process. It's really helpful to know that the online verification is pretty quick and straightforward - I was worried it might be some complicated process that would take forever. The fact that you got your refund in exactly 15 days gives me hope that I might see mine around the same timeframe. I'm planning to verify this week, so I'll definitely follow your advice about checking every few days rather than obsessing over it. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I verified my Michigan state return on February 28th and received my refund on March 17th - so about 17 days total. I went through the online verification process at michigan.gov/mytaxes where they asked me questions about previous addresses and some financial account details. The verification itself was quick, maybe 8-10 minutes, but then came the waiting period. I found it helpful to check the status about twice a week rather than daily - saved me from getting too anxious about it. The website is pretty good about updating status, and once it showed "refund issued" the direct deposit hit my account the next business day. From what I'm seeing in this thread, most people are getting their refunds within the 2-4 week window that Michigan Treasury promises, which is reassuring. I'd definitely budget for the full 3-4 weeks just to be safe, especially since we're now in the busy part of tax season and processing times might be a bit longer.
Oscar O'Neil
Hey Connor! I just went through this exact process about 3 weeks ago as a recent grad, so I totally get the stress you're feeling. Here's what helped me navigate it smoothly: **The verification is super common for people like us** - the IRS algorithm flags returns with education credits, multiple income sources (like TA work, research stipends, etc.), or major changes from previous years. It's fraud protection, not an audit. **My step-by-step experience:** - Online notification showed up first when I tried accessing my tax transcript - Physical Letter 5071C arrived 9 days later (but don't wait for it!) - Completed entire ID.me verification online in about 35 minutes using my laptop - Got confirmation email immediately from ID.me - Refund deposited exactly 17 days after completing verification **What made it go smoothly:** - Used desktop computer - mobile interface kept crashing on me - Had documents ready: driver's license, Social Security card, recent bank statement - Did the selfie verification near a window with natural light (took 3 tries but worked) - Took screenshots of every confirmation page for my records **For the address issue since you just finished your master's:** I had moved recently too and used my current lease agreement + bank statement to supplement my driver's license which still had my old address. ID.me handled it without problems. The whole process feels invasive but it's legitimate, and honestly once you're through it, there's a sense of relief. Since you mentioned your tax situation got more complex, this verification actually helps ensure your return processes without future issues. You've got this! Just budget about 45 minutes and make sure you have good internet and lighting. Happy to answer any specific questions about the process!
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Aurora Lacasse
@Oscar O'Neil This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I'm actually going through this verification process right now and your timeline is really encouraging. The 17-day refund timeline gives me something concrete to expect rather than just worrying indefinitely. I have a couple questions about your experience: When you mentioned using your lease agreement to supplement the address verification, did you have to upload it as a separate document, or was there a specific section in the ID.me process for explaining address discrepancies? Also, you said the selfie took 3 tries - were you able to retry immediately, or did you have to wait between attempts? I'm trying to plan the best time to sit down and do this when I won't be interrupted. It's really reassuring to hear that this is standard for recent grads with complex returns rather than some kind of red flag. The fact that you, Emma, and several others all had similar experiences with education credits and multiple income sources makes me feel much less anxious about the whole thing. Thanks for offering to answer specific questions - this community has been incredibly helpful for navigating something that initially seemed really intimidating!
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Amina Diop
Hey Connor! I just completed the ID.me verification process last week and wanted to share my experience since I was in almost the exact same situation - recent grad with education credits and multiple income sources from research assistantships. **Quick reassurance first:** This is incredibly common for people in our situation. The IRS flags returns with education credits, multiple income sources, or significant changes from previous years as a routine fraud prevention measure. You're not being audited or in trouble! **My timeline:** - Online notification appeared when I tried to access my tax transcript - Physical letter (5071C) arrived 12 days later - Completed verification online in 42 minutes using laptop - Refund processed 15 days after verification completion **Key things that helped:** - Started immediately when I saw the online notification (don't wait for the physical letter) - Used my laptop instead of phone - mobile interface is really unreliable - Had all documents ready: driver's license, Social Security card, recent utility bill - Did the selfie verification during daytime near a window - lighting is crucial - Took screenshots of every confirmation page **For your complex tax situation:** Since you mentioned this is your first time with a more complex return, keep all verification documentation. The IRS tends to be more cautious with returns that show significant changes from previous years, which is super common for new graduates. The facial recognition part took me 4 attempts (remove glasses if you wear them), but once that was done, everything processed smoothly. The whole thing feels intimidating at first but it's actually pretty straightforward once you start. Let me know if you have any specific questions about the process - happy to help a fellow recent grad navigate this!
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Giovanni Mancini
@Amina Diop Thanks so much for sharing your experience! It s'really reassuring to hear from another recent grad who went through this exact situation. Your 15-day refund timeline is actually one of the fastest I ve'seen mentioned in this thread, which gives me hope! I m'curious about the facial recognition part you mentioned - when you had to do 4 attempts, did you get any specific error messages or feedback about what was going wrong, or did it just keep saying try "again ?"I wear contacts instead of glasses, so I m'wondering if that might cause similar issues. Also, you mentioned keeping all verification documentation for future reference - did ID.me or the IRS give you any indication about whether completing this verification makes you less likely to get flagged in future years, or is it pretty much a fresh evaluation each time you file? I really appreciate everyone in this thread sharing their experiences - it s'made something that seemed really scary feel much more manageable knowing it s'a standard process for people in our situation with education credits and research income. The community support here has been amazing!
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Emma Davis
@Amina Diop This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing such a detailed timeline! I m'actually in the exact same boat as Connor and you - just finished my degree and dealing with this verification for the first time. Your 15-day refund processing time is really encouraging compared to some of the longer delays others have mentioned. I have a question about the documentation - you mentioned having a utility bill ready for address verification. Since I just moved from my college apartment to a new place for work, would a lease agreement work instead of a utility bill? Some of my utilities are still getting set up at the new address. Also, when you did the facial recognition attempts, were you able to do all 4 tries in the same session, or did you have to come back later? I want to make sure I block out enough time to complete everything in one sitting. Really appreciate you mentioning that this is routine for people with education credits and research income - it makes the whole process feel much less intimidating knowing it s'standard rather than some kind of red flag!
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