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This is exactly why I always recommend consulting with a tax professional BEFORE making any major payroll decisions. That said, you're not the first person to find themselves in this situation, and there are definitely paths forward. Given the substantial income amount ($135k), I'd lean toward the S-corp election route rather than trying to deduct the wages on Schedule C. The IRS has specific procedures for late S-corp elections with reasonable cause, and "lack of knowledge of the filing requirements" is often accepted if you can document it properly. Key steps I'd recommend: 1. Have your accountant prepare Form 2553 with a detailed reasonable cause statement 2. File Form 1120S for the corporate return immediately 3. Be prepared to show you acted in good faith and are now trying to comply properly The Schedule C route is risky because those wage deductions will almost certainly trigger an audit - the IRS systems will match your SSN as both the payer and recipient of those W2s. Time is critical here since there are deadlines for the S-corp election, so work with your accountant to get this filed ASAP. The sooner you address it, the better your chances of approval.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned - what are the specific deadlines for the S-corp election? I've heard conflicting information about whether it needs to be filed within 2 months and 15 days of the tax year, or if there's more flexibility when filing with reasonable cause. Also, when you mention filing Form 1120S immediately, does that mean for the current tax year or do they need to go back and file corporate returns for previous periods too?
Dylan, you're definitely in a tricky situation but it's not insurmountable. I went through something very similar two years ago with my consulting business - put myself on W2 payroll without realizing sole proprietors can't technically be employees of themselves. After researching extensively and working with a CPA who specializes in entity elections, here's what I learned: The S-corp route with reasonable cause is usually your best bet, especially with income at your level. The IRS Revenue Procedure 2013-30 provides a streamlined process for late S-corp elections, and "inadvertent failure to file" due to lack of knowledge is specifically mentioned as acceptable reasonable cause. A few critical points for your situation: - You'll need to file Form 2553 with a detailed explanation letter citing specific reasons why the election is late - The corporate tax return (1120S) should be filed for the year you want the election to be effective - You may need to pay reasonable compensation to yourself as an S-corp shareholder-employee, but this legitimizes the W2 wages you already paid The double taxation issue others mentioned is real - if you stay as a sole prop and can't deduct those wages, you'll essentially pay tax twice on that income. The S-corp election, if approved, would make those W2 wages legitimate business expenses. Time is definitely of the essence here. The longer you wait, the harder it becomes to argue reasonable cause. I'd strongly recommend getting this filed within the next few weeks if possible.
I'm going through this exact same situation right now and this thread has been absolutely invaluable! Just received my second 60-day letter this week after filing in February, and like everyone else here, I've been stuck with that completely useless "Where's My Refund" tool showing nothing but "still processing" for months. What really gets me is how the IRS clearly has all this detailed information about what's happening with our returns (based on all these transcript codes people are discussing), but they deliberately keep us in the dark with these vague, anxiety-inducing form letters. The not knowing is honestly worse than the actual delay - I've been losing sleep wondering if I made some major error or if there's something seriously wrong with my return. I had absolutely no idea about downloading tax transcripts from the IRS website until reading through these comments. It's honestly shocking that such a valuable resource isn't more prominently featured or explained anywhere on their official site. After 9 months of being completely in the dark, I'm definitely going to download my transcript tonight and try those AI analysis tools people have mentioned. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions here. It's both comforting to know this is such a widespread issue and infuriating that we all have to figure out these workarounds ourselves instead of getting proper communication from the IRS. At least now I have concrete steps to take instead of just waiting helplessly for the next 60-day letter!
Ezra, I'm so sorry you're going through this same frustrating experience! Nine months of waiting with nothing but "still processing" is absolutely maddening. You've perfectly captured what makes this so stressful - it's that complete lack of transparency that creates all the anxiety about whether something's seriously wrong with your return. I'm relatively new to dealing with IRS delays myself, but reading through everyone's experiences in this thread has been such an education. The transcript download really does seem to be the key breakthrough that gives people actual answers instead of just generic form letters. It's honestly shameful that the IRS doesn't make these tools more accessible when they could eliminate so much taxpayer anxiety. From what others have shared, most of these extended reviews turn out to be routine verification issues rather than major problems. I know that doesn't make the waiting any easier, but hopefully once you can see those transaction codes tonight, you'll finally understand what specific issue triggered the delay instead of just imagining worst-case scenarios. Those AI analysis tools people mentioned should help decode all the cryptic IRS codes into plain English too. After 9 months of being kept in the dark, you deserve to finally know what's actually happening with your return. Keep us posted on what you discover - these updates really help everyone else who's stuck in the same situation!
I'm going through this exact same frustrating situation right now! Just got my second 60-day letter last week after filing in March, and honestly, reading through this entire thread has been both a huge relief and incredibly eye-opening. Like so many others here, I've been stuck staring at that completely useless "Where's My Refund" tool for months - just "still processing" with zero helpful details. The anxiety of not knowing whether I made some catastrophic error or if it's just routine delays has been eating away at me for weeks. I had absolutely no idea about downloading tax transcripts until reading everyone's experiences here. It's honestly ridiculous that the IRS has all this detailed information tracking our returns but keeps us completely in the dark with these generic form letters. After 8 months of wondering what the heck is going on, I'm definitely downloading my transcript tonight and trying those AI analysis tools people mentioned. The most reassuring thing I'm taking away from this thread is that these delays seem to be incredibly common right now and usually aren't signs of serious problems - just verification processes that got backed up in their system. Still frustrating as hell, but at least I can stop imagining that I'm heading for an audit! Thanks to everyone who shared their solutions and experiences. It's both comforting and maddening to realize how widespread this issue is, but I finally have concrete steps to take instead of just waiting helplessly for the next 60-day letter to show up in my mailbox.
I did owner financing for my house in 2022 and the tax part wasn't that bad. Just make sure you have a proper loan agreement drawn up by a real estate attorney. Mine cost about $800 but worth every penny since it covered all the legal requirements and proper disclosures. For taxes, my accountant had me report it as an installment sale on Form 6252. The down payment and principal payments aren't taxable as long as they fall under your Section 121 exclusion. The interest gets reported as income on Schedule B each year.
This is such valuable information everyone! As someone who's been thinking about owner financing but was intimidated by the tax complexity, this thread has been incredibly helpful. One additional consideration I learned from my real estate agent - make sure you're comfortable being a lender for the full term of the loan. Unlike selling traditionally where you get all your money upfront, with owner financing you're tied to that buyer for potentially 15-30 years. If they default, you might have to go through foreclosure proceedings to get your property back. Also, consider the opportunity cost - that money you would have received from a traditional sale could potentially be invested elsewhere. Make sure the interest rate you're charging compensates for both the risk you're taking and any potential investment returns you're giving up. The tax advantages are great, but they shouldn't be the only factor in your decision.
Excellent point about the long-term commitment aspect! I'm just getting started in understanding owner financing, and this really highlights something I hadn't fully considered. The tax benefits sound appealing, but being essentially a mortgage company for decades is a big responsibility. Do you know if there are ways to mitigate some of those risks? Like can you require the buyer to have mortgage insurance, or are there services that help manage the loan payments and handle collections if needed? I'm wondering if there's a middle ground between doing everything yourself and just going the traditional bank route.
I've been working with taxpayers on IRS issues for over a decade, and I wanted to share a few additional troubleshooting steps that haven't been mentioned yet. First, if you're getting errors specifically during the identity verification step, make sure you're entering your prior year AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) from the correct tax year. The system asks for your "prior year AGI" which would be from your 2023 return if you're filing 2024 taxes. I've seen people accidentally use their current year AGI, which will cause authentication failures. Second, check if you have any browser extensions that modify web forms or auto-fill data. Extensions like LastPass, Dashlane, or even Google's built-in password manager can sometimes interfere with the IRS forms by changing field values or formatting. Try using an incognito/private browsing window which disables most extensions. Third, if you've recently changed banks or closed accounts, make sure you're not trying to use old banking information for direct debit setup. The system will fail if it can't verify your account details, even if everything else is correct. The 6-8 AM timeframe recommendation is absolutely spot-on. I always tell my clients to try during those early hours when server load is minimal. The IRS systems are notoriously overloaded during peak hours, especially during tax season.
This is incredibly helpful advice! I just started dealing with tax issues this year and had no idea about the prior year AGI requirement. I've definitely been entering my current year AGI from my 2024 return instead of my 2023 AGI, which probably explains why I keep getting authentication errors. Quick question - if I didn't file a return last year (2023 was my first year needing to file), what should I enter for the prior year AGI? Should it be zero, or is there a different process for first-time filers trying to set up payment plans? Also really appreciate the tip about browser extensions. I do have LastPass running and never thought about it potentially interfering with government websites. I'll definitely try an incognito window next time. Thanks for sharing your expertise - this thread has been a lifesaver for navigating this confusing process!
For first-time filers, you should enter "0" (zero) for your prior year AGI since you didn't file a return in 2023. The IRS system is designed to handle this situation - it's actually pretty common for people who are filing their first return or returning to filing after several years. Just make sure you enter exactly "0" - not blank, not "N/A" or any other text. The system needs a numeric value even if it's zero. You might also want to have your Social Security card handy when you go through the identity verification process as a first-time filer, since the system has fewer data points to verify your identity against. Sometimes it will ask additional security questions that pull from credit reports or other sources when tax history is limited. The incognito window approach should definitely help with the LastPass interference too. Good luck with your payment plan setup!
I've been following this thread and want to add another potential solution that might help. If you're still getting errors after trying all these great troubleshooting tips, check if you have any outstanding tax liens or levies on your account. I had a similar issue where the payment plan system kept rejecting my application with generic error messages. It turned out there was an old state tax lien that was somehow affecting my federal payment plan eligibility, even though they should be completely separate systems. You can check for federal tax liens by searching the Treasury Department's lien database online, or call the IRS Centralized Lien Unit at 1-800-913-6050. If there are any liens, you might need to get them released or subordinated before you can set up a new payment plan. Also, make sure you don't have any other active payment plans with the IRS. The system won't let you set up a new installment agreement if you already have one in place, even if it's for a different tax year. You'd need to modify your existing agreement instead of creating a new one. Hope this helps someone who's tried everything else but is still stuck with those frustrating error messages!
CosmicCaptain
My wife and I went through this exact situation! In case it helps, we found the best solution was for both of us to check the "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" box (if using the old W-4) or checking box 2(c) on the new form. We make almost identical incomes, so this worked perfectly. If your incomes are very different though, you might want to use the IRS withholding calculator or the Multiple Jobs Worksheet (Step 2(b) on the W-4) for more precise withholding.
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Malik Johnson
ā¢The "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" box doesn't exist on the new W-4 forms. They completely redesigned them in 2020. Now it's Step 2 checkbox c that does basically the same thing.
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Gemma Andrews
I went through this exact same situation when I got married! The key thing to understand is that when you select "married filing jointly" without any other adjustments, the tax tables assume you're the only income earner in the household, which dramatically reduces withholding. Here's what worked for me and my spouse (we have similar incomes): 1. **Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator** - It's free and way more accurate than guessing. You'll need both of your most recent pay stubs and last year's tax return. 2. **Only ONE of you should check box 2(c)** - If both spouses check this box, you'll likely overwithhold significantly. 3. **Consider using Step 4(c) for additional withholding** - Based on the estimator results, you might want to have an extra $50-100 withheld per paycheck to catch up on the underwithholding from earlier in the year. Since you mentioned you're only having $35 withheld on $1,300 biweekly pay, that's definitely too low for most tax situations. The estimator will give you specific guidance based on both your incomes combined. Don't wait until next year to fix this - you can submit a new W-4 anytime!
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Cynthia Love
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation and was wondering - when you say "only ONE of you should check box 2(c)", how do you decide which spouse should check it? Should it be the higher earner or the lower earner? Also, if we're both getting new jobs around the same time, does it matter who updates their W-4 first?
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