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Has anyone dealt with the situation where someone has been denied SSDI but you still claim them as disabled for tax purposes? My sister has fibromyalgia and can't work but got denied disability benefits. I'm claiming her as a dependent but worried that the SSDI denial will cause problems.
Being denied SSDI doesn't automatically disqualify someone from being considered disabled for tax purposes. The criteria are different. For taxes, you need a doctor's certification that the person cannot engage in substantial gainful activity due to their condition, and that it's expected to last for at least a year or result in death. I've been in a similar situation with my aunt who has severe arthritis. She was denied SSDI initially but I still claimed her as a disabled dependent. I just made sure her doctor provided a clear statement about her inability to work.
I went through something very similar with my adult son who has autism spectrum disorder. He's high-functioning but struggles with employment due to social anxiety and sensory issues. The key thing I learned is that you need clear documentation from a medical professional stating that your brother's conditions prevent him from engaging in "substantial gainful activity." The IRS definition is actually more about functional capacity than the specific diagnosis. Even if your brother doesn't qualify for SSI, if his mental health conditions genuinely prevent him from maintaining employment, and you have medical documentation supporting this, you should be on solid ground. I'd recommend getting a letter from his treating psychiatrist or psychologist that specifically addresses his ability to work and maintain employment. The letter should use language like "unable to engage in substantial gainful activity" and mention that the condition is expected to last at least 12 months. This gives you the backup documentation you'd need if questioned. The peace of mind is worth having that conversation with his doctor, even if it feels awkward to ask.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation with my nephew who has ADHD and severe anxiety. Getting that specific language from the doctor makes so much sense - I hadn't thought about asking them to use the exact terminology the IRS looks for. Did you find that most doctors are familiar with what the IRS needs for this kind of documentation, or did you have to explain what you were looking for?
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this exact same situation! When my company switched from an old legacy payroll system to a modern cloud-based one, I experienced the same shock of higher federal withholding. What I discovered after digging into it was that our old system had a bug where it wasn't properly accounting for the standard deduction changes that went into effect a few years ago. The new system was calculating withholding correctly based on current tax law, while the old one had been under-withholding without us realizing it. It sounds like you're on the right track with checking the filing status - that's definitely the most common culprit. But even after that's fixed, don't be surprised if your withholding is still slightly higher than before. The new system is probably just doing a better job of estimating your actual tax liability. I ended up adjusting my W-4 to claim one additional allowance to bring my take-home pay back to where I was comfortable, and everything worked out perfectly at tax time. Good luck with HR tomorrow!
That's such a valuable insight about the old system potentially having a bug with standard deduction calculations! It really highlights how these legacy systems can sometimes mask underlying issues that only become apparent when you switch to a more current system. Your point about the new system doing a better job of estimating actual tax liability is something I hadn't considered. Even though it's frustrating to see less take-home pay in the short term, it's probably better to have accurate withholding throughout the year rather than face a surprise tax bill in April. The suggestion about adjusting the W-4 with an additional allowance after confirming everything else is correct sounds like a smart approach. It gives you some control over finding the right balance between accurate withholding and comfortable cash flow. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same transition successfully!
As someone who's been through multiple payroll system transitions, I can definitely relate to your confusion! The filing status issue you discovered is likely the biggest culprit, but I wanted to add one more thing to check - make sure your exemptions/allowances didn't get reset to zero during the migration. I've seen cases where the new system defaults everyone to zero allowances as a "safe" starting point, which results in maximum withholding until employees notice and correct it. Even if your filing status gets fixed, having zero allowances when you should have one or more can still result in significantly higher withholding than you're used to. When you meet with HR tomorrow, ask them to pull up your complete W-4 information in the new system and compare it line-by-line with what you had in the old system. Sometimes multiple small changes can add up to a big difference in your take-home pay. The good news is that all of these issues are usually pretty quick for HR to fix once they're identified!
This is excellent advice about checking the allowances/exemptions! I just logged into the new payroll app to take a look, and sure enough, it shows I have 0 allowances when I'm pretty sure I had at least 1 or 2 in the old system. Combined with the filing status being wrong, no wonder my withholding shot up so dramatically! I'm making a list of everything to discuss with HR tomorrow: filing status (already confirmed this is wrong), number of allowances/exemptions, any additional withholding amounts I might have had set up, and the pay period configuration someone mentioned earlier. Feeling much more prepared for that conversation now thanks to everyone's input. It's actually kind of reassuring to know that this is such a common issue during payroll migrations - makes me feel less like I did something wrong and more like it's just part of the transition process that needs to be cleaned up. Really appreciate all the detailed suggestions from everyone who's been through this before!
Just wanted to add another perspective on the MPF withdrawal taxation. I handled a similar situation for my client who moved from Hong Kong to the US in 2022. One thing that often gets overlooked is that you may need to file Form 8938 (Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets) if your MPF account balance exceeded certain thresholds before withdrawal. Even though you've withdrawn the funds, the IRS still wants to know about foreign accounts you held during the tax year. Also, regarding the timing of when you received the funds versus when your employer made their final contribution - the IRS generally uses the "constructive receipt" principle. Since you couldn't access the funds until February 2024, that's likely when it becomes taxable income for US purposes, regardless of when the employer contribution was made. Make sure to keep detailed records of the Hong Kong taxes (if any) withheld from your MPF withdrawal, as this will be crucial for claiming the Foreign Tax Credit. The documentation from your MPF provider should show any withholding taxes that were deducted.
This is really helpful information about Form 8938 - I had no idea about that requirement! Quick question: do you know what the threshold amounts are for filing Form 8938? I'm trying to figure out if my MPF balance would have triggered this requirement. Also, when you mention "constructive receipt," does that mean the February 2024 date is definitely when I should report this income, even though the employer contribution happened in November 2023? I want to make sure I get the timing right since this affects which tax year I need to file this under.
For Form 8938, the threshold depends on your filing status and where you live. For US residents filing jointly, it's $100,000 on the last day of the tax year or $150,000 at any time during the year. For single filers, it's $50,000/$75,000 respectively. Since your MPF was around $85,000 HKD (roughly $11,000 USD), you probably wouldn't meet the threshold. Regarding constructive receipt, yes - February 2024 is when you should report it since that's when you actually had access to and received the funds. The November 2023 employer contribution doesn't matter for US tax timing purposes because you couldn't withdraw it then. So this will go on your 2024 tax return, not 2023. Also worth noting - make sure to convert the HKD amount to USD using the exchange rate on the date you received the funds (February 2024), not when the contribution was made.
I went through a very similar situation when I moved from Hong Kong to the US in 2022, so I can share some practical insights from my experience. First, you're absolutely right to be concerned about the tax treatment. The IRS will treat your MPF withdrawal as ordinary income since the US doesn't recognize the MPF as a qualified retirement plan. This means it gets taxed at your regular income tax rates, not capital gains rates. One thing I learned the hard way is that you should definitely look into whether Hong Kong withheld any taxes from your MPF withdrawal. Many people don't realize that Hong Kong may have deducted some taxes at source, especially if you had any employer contributions that hadn't fully vested. If they did, you can potentially claim a Foreign Tax Credit on Form 1116 to offset some of your US tax liability. Regarding the Roth IRA question - unfortunately, you can't directly roll over MPF funds into a Roth IRA since the IRS doesn't consider it a qualified foreign pension plan. However, if you have earned income in the US in 2024, you could potentially use some of the withdrawal money to fund a Roth IRA contribution (up to the annual limits), though this would be considered a regular contribution, not a rollover. Make sure to keep all your MPF withdrawal documentation, including any foreign tax forms, as the IRS may want to see proof of the foreign taxes paid if you claim the credit.
Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful since you went through the exact same situation. I have a couple of follow-up questions if you don't mind: 1. How did you figure out if Hong Kong withheld any taxes from your MPF withdrawal? Did your MPF provider give you specific documentation about this, or did you have to request it separately? 2. When you filed Form 1116 for the Foreign Tax Credit, did you run into any issues with the IRS accepting Hong Kong taxes as creditable? I've heard mixed things about whether all foreign taxes qualify. 3. For the currency conversion, did you use the exchange rate from the day you received the funds, or did you use some kind of average rate for the month/year? I'm trying to get all my documentation in order now so I don't scramble when it's time to file. Your practical insights are much more helpful than the generic advice I've been finding online!
Has anyone tried the Drake tax prep training course? I've heard mixed things but it's cheaper than some of the other options.
I did the Drake course last year and it was decent for basic tax knowledge, but pretty limited compared to H&R Block or the comprehensive EA study guides. It's best if you're specifically planning to use Drake software, as a lot of the training focuses on navigating their system rather than deep tax concepts.
Great question! I was in your exact situation two years ago - no degree, tight budget, but determined to break into tax prep. Here's what worked for me: 1. Start with the IRS PTIN registration (about $50/year) - you'll need this regardless of which path you choose. 2. I highly recommend starting with VITA training as someone else mentioned. It's completely free and gives you hands-on experience. I volunteered at a local community center and prepared about 50 returns my first season. The experience was invaluable. 3. While doing VITA, I simultaneously took an online tax course through Penn Foster (around $800) which was self-paced and covered everything from basic individual returns to small business taxes. Way more affordable than traditional college. 4. After my first tax season, I applied for the AFSP and started working part-time at a local CPA office during off-season doing bookkeeping and basic prep work. 5. Now I'm studying for the EA exam using Gleim materials (expensive but thorough) and should have my credential by next year. The key is gaining practical experience while building your knowledge. Don't feel pressured to get everything at once - build gradually and let each step fund the next one. Most clients care more about your competence and communication skills than your educational background. Feel free to ask if you want specifics about any of these steps!
This is exactly the kind of step-by-step roadmap I was hoping to find! I really appreciate you breaking down the progression and including actual costs. The Penn Foster option sounds interesting - how did you find their curriculum compared to the free VITA training? I'm wondering if it's worth doing both or if one provides enough foundation to move forward with confidence. Also, when you say you started doing bookkeeping work at the CPA office, did they require any specific software knowledge or was that something they trained you on? I'm trying to figure out what additional skills might make me more marketable beyond just tax prep knowledge.
Fatima Al-Farsi
I completely understand your stress about this - I was in the exact same position with my foreign disregarded entity LLC last year! The good news is that once you understand how these forms work together, it's much more manageable than it initially seems. Here's what I learned from working through this (and confirmed with an international tax specialist): **Form 5472**: You're absolutely correct that capital contributions go on the Part V attachment, BUT they also need to be reported on Part IV Line 12 "Other amounts received." This isn't double-counting - Part IV tracks cash flows while Part V provides the detailed breakdown. Make sure to clearly label it as "Capital contribution" on Line 12. **Form 1120**: Capital contributions don't appear in the income section at all since they're not taxable income. Instead, look at Schedule L (the balance sheet). Your capital contribution should be reported under owner's equity - typically Line 22 "Capital stock" or Line 23 "Additional paid-in capital" depending on your LLC's structure. **Form 1040NR**: You're spot-on here - capital contributions should NOT be included on Schedule C or anywhere else on your individual return. They're not personal income to you. The key insight that helped me was understanding that apparent "inconsistencies" between forms are actually by design. Each form captures different aspects of the same transaction for different regulatory purposes. My recommendation: Create a simple one-page statement explaining your capital contribution - the amount, date, and exactly where it appears (or doesn't appear) on each form. Attach this to your filing package and reference it in the margins of each form. This level of documentation shows the IRS you understand what you're doing and aren't trying to hide anything. You're being appropriately careful about getting this right, which puts you ahead of many people who just guess. Take a deep breath - you've got this!
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Sean Doyle
β’This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I've been struggling with this exact issue for weeks and your explanation finally makes it click. The point about "apparent inconsistencies being by design" is especially helpful because I was driving myself crazy thinking I was making errors when the forms looked different from each other. I really appreciate the specific line references you provided. My tax software has been confusing me with its terminology, but knowing to look for "Capital stock" or "Additional paid-in capital" on Schedule L gives me something concrete to search for. Your idea about creating a one-page statement is perfect. I was worried about over-documenting, but it sounds like being proactive with explanations is much better than leaving the IRS to figure things out on their own. Did you include bank transfer details and dates in your statement, or keep it more high-level? Also, when you reference the statement "in the margins of each form," do you mean literally writing notes by hand on the printed forms, or adding text boxes if filing electronically? I want to make sure I'm doing this in a way that won't cause processing issues. Thank you for the encouragement - hearing from someone who successfully navigated this process gives me so much more confidence!
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Zainab Ali
I went through this exact same situation with my foreign disregarded entity LLC about 18 months ago, and I totally get the stress you're feeling! The complexity of coordinating these three forms is definitely overwhelming at first. What really helped me was understanding that the IRS expects these forms to look different from each other - they're designed to capture different regulatory requirements, not to match perfectly. Here's how I handled it: **Form 5472**: Capital contributions go on BOTH Part IV Line 12 ("Other amounts received") AND the separate Part V attachment. I initially thought this was double-reporting, but it's actually required - Part IV tracks cash flows, Part V provides transaction details. **Form 1120**: The capital contribution appears on Schedule L (Balance Sheet) under owner's equity. Don't look for it in the income sections since it's not taxable income. Depending on your software, it might be labeled as "Capital stock," "Additional paid-in capital," or "Owner's equity." **Form 1040NR**: You're absolutely right - capital contributions don't belong on Schedule C or anywhere else on this form. They're not personal income to you as the owner. The game-changer for me was creating a detailed reconciliation document that I attached to my return. It listed the capital contribution amount, date, and specifically noted where it appeared on each form (and why it didn't appear on 1040NR). I also added brief references like "See attached Capital Contribution Statement" in the margins of each form. I filed this way and haven't received any questions from the IRS. The key is being transparent and proactive with documentation rather than trying to make everything look identical across forms. You're asking all the right questions, which shows you're approaching this carefully. That attention to detail will serve you well!
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Oliver Schulz
β’This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! Your explanation about the forms being designed to capture different regulatory requirements rather than match perfectly is such an important mindset shift. I was getting so frustrated thinking I was doing something wrong when they didn't align. I really appreciate you confirming the dual reporting requirement for Form 5472 - that Part IV and Part V serve different purposes even though it feels redundant. That was one of my biggest sources of confusion. Your reconciliation document approach sounds perfect. I've been worried about providing too much documentation, but it sounds like being proactive and transparent is much better than leaving things unclear. When you created your Capital Contribution Statement, did you include specific bank account details and transfer dates, or did you keep it more general with just amounts and reference numbers? Also, I'm curious about the timeline - how long after filing did you feel confident that the IRS wasn't going to question your approach? I know there's always some uncertainty, but it would help to know when I can stop losing sleep over this! Thank you for sharing your experience so generously. Knowing that someone else successfully navigated this exact situation gives me the confidence I needed to move forward with my filing.
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