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Has anyone considered the timing here? Since the wife started the FSA in July, couldn't they argue that the HSA was fine for January-June, and then became ineligible only from July onward? That way they'd only need to withdraw half the year's HSA contributions instead of all of it.
You're absolutely right! HSA eligibility is determined month-by-month. So for the months when only the HSA existed (Jan-June), they can keep their HSA contributions prorated for those months. The monthly limit for family coverage would be $8,300 รท 12 = $691.67 per month. So they could keep approximately $4,150 in HSA contributions for those 6 months and would only need to withdraw the excess contributions for July through December.
Thanks for bringing this up - that's exactly what I was thinking when I mentioned withdrawing contributions for the second half of the year. Since my wife's FSA didn't start until July, we were eligible for family HSA contributions from January through June. I think I'm going to try first to see if her employer will convert the FSA to limited-purpose, and if not, then I'll calculate the prorated amount for the first six months and withdraw the rest from my HSA before the tax deadline.
Just be really careful about the timing of any HSA withdrawals if you go that route! I learned the hard way that excess contributions need to be withdrawn by the tax filing deadline (including extensions) to avoid the 6% excise tax penalty that applies each year the excess remains in the account. Also, since you mentioned you've already contributed $8,300 for the full year, make sure your payroll department stops any ongoing HSA contributions immediately while you sort this out. You don't want to keep adding to the problem while you're trying to fix it. One more thing - document everything! Keep records of when your wife's FSA started, any communications with HR about potential changes, and if you do need to make HSA withdrawals, keep all the paperwork from your HSA provider. You'll need this documentation for your tax return.
This is really helpful advice! I didn't realize the 6% penalty could apply every year the excess stays in the account - that could get expensive fast. I'll definitely contact payroll first thing Monday to pause my HSA contributions while we figure this out. Quick question - when you say document everything, do you mean I should also keep records of any expenses we've already paid from both accounts? I'm wondering if there could be any issues with reimbursements we've already received if we end up having to make changes.
I'm going through the exact same thing and this thread has been such a relief! Filed on 2/13 with a $3,400 payment through H&R Block online, and it's been sitting in my account for over 3 weeks now. Like so many others here, I've been checking my bank account multiple times daily expecting the money to just disappear. I was starting to panic thinking I had made some error or that the IRS was going to surprise me with penalties later. Miguel's explanation about the 3-4 week processing backlog being system-wide this year is incredibly reassuring, especially coming from someone who works in tax prep and is seeing this across multiple clients. And all the practical advice about keeping documentation, setting up the online IRS account, and learning about EFTPS for next year has been so helpful. I'm going to follow everyone's advice - keep that money untouched for at least 8 weeks, set up my online IRS account today to confirm they have my information, and try to be patient with their processing delays. It's amazing how much better this feels knowing we're all protected from penalties as long as we authorized payment on time. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences - you've turned what felt like a personal financial crisis into just another frustrating bureaucratic delay that we're all weathering together!
I'm experiencing this exact same issue! Filed on 2/17 with a $2,750 payment through TurboTax and it's been almost 3 weeks with no withdrawal. This thread has been incredibly reassuring - I was getting really anxious thinking something went wrong with my filing. The daily bank account checking is so relatable! I've been doing it obsessively, almost expecting the money to vanish overnight. Reading Miguel's professional insight about the 3-4 week processing backlog being normal this year has really put my mind at ease. I'm definitely going to set up that online IRS account today and keep the money safely in my account for the full 8 weeks. It's such a relief knowing we're all in this together and protected from penalties as long as we authorized payment on time. Thanks everyone for sharing - this community support has made such a stressful situation so much more manageable!
I'm going through this exact same situation and finding this thread has been incredibly helpful! Filed on 2/21 with a $3,650 payment through TaxSlayer, and it's been sitting in my account for almost 3 weeks now. Like everyone else here, I've been obsessively checking my bank balance multiple times a day, half expecting the money to just vanish overnight. I was starting to worry that maybe I had made some mistake during the payment authorization process or that the IRS was going to hit me with surprise penalties down the road. Miguel's explanation about the 3-4 week processing backlog being system-wide this year is such a huge relief, especially knowing it's coming from someone who works directly in tax prep and is seeing this pattern across multiple clients. All the practical advice here about keeping documentation, setting up the online IRS account, and considering EFTPS for next year has been incredibly valuable. I'm going to follow everyone's guidance - keep that money safely untouched in my account for the full 8 weeks, set up my online IRS account today to at least confirm they received my return, and try to practice patience with their processing delays. It's amazing how much less stressful this feels knowing we're all in the same boat and protected from penalties as long as we authorized payment on time. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences and solutions - you've transformed what felt like a potential financial disaster into just another frustrating government processing delay that we're all navigating together!
Just to add my experience - I was in the EXACT same situation during college. Had work study all 4 years and didn't file until senior year when I got a proper internship. I talked to an accountant years later who said since I was owed refunds (not that I owed any tax), there was no penalty for filing late. Apparently the IRS doesn't penalize you for filing late if THEY owe YOU money! I ended up filing the old returns and got small refunds for each year. The whole process was pretty easy. If I were you, I'd file those old returns just to get closure and the small refunds you're probably entitled to.
Actually this is right - the IRS doesn't penalize for late filing if you're due a refund. But there IS a deadline to claim refunds - 3 years from the original due date. So for 2021 returns (due in April 2022), you'd have until April 2025 to claim any refund.
Don't stress too much about this! You're definitely not alone - so many college students go through this exact same confusion about work study income and filing requirements. From what you've described, you were likely not required to file for those years since your earnings were well below the filing thresholds. Work study income is treated like regular W-2 wages, so the standard filing requirements apply. However, since you had federal taxes withheld (even those small amounts of $11 and $9), you were actually entitled to get that money back as a refund! The IRS doesn't charge penalties for filing late when they owe YOU money, but there is a time limit to claim refunds - generally 3 years from the original due date. For 2021, you'd have until April 2025 to file and claim that $11 refund, and for 2022, until April 2026 for the $9. It's not a huge amount, but it's money that's rightfully yours, and filing those returns would give you peace of mind. Also, don't forget to check your state filing requirements! Some states have much lower thresholds than federal, so you might need to file state returns even if federal wasn't required. You're being very responsible by looking into this now - better late than never!
This is such helpful advice! I'm actually a current college student with a work study job and I've been wondering about this exact situation. My employer withholds such a tiny amount for taxes that I wasn't sure if it was even worth filing, but now I understand I could get that money back even if I'm not required to file. Quick question - when you mention checking state filing requirements, is there an easy way to look up what the threshold is for your specific state? I'm in Texas and want to make sure I'm not missing anything important. Also, thank you for pointing out that there's no penalty when the IRS owes you money - that takes away so much of the anxiety around potentially filing late returns!
22 Does anyone know if my accountant should be charging me extra each year to "maintain" my S-Corp election? He's billing me $250 annually for "S-Corp election maintenance" but from what I'm reading here it sounds like there's nothing to maintain after the initial filing??
I'd definitely push back on that fee. There's literally nothing to "maintain" with your S-Corp election - it's a permanent status until you voluntarily revoke it or violate the eligibility rules. Your accountant might be doing legitimate S-Corp related work like ensuring compliance with payroll tax requirements or reviewing your basis calculations, but calling it "election maintenance" is misleading at best. I'd ask for a detailed invoice showing exactly what services are provided for that $250. If they can't justify it with actual work performed, consider finding a new accountant. That kind of vague billing is a red flag in my experience.
I would definitely question that charge. The S-Corp election is a one-time filing that remains in effect indefinitely - there's no annual paperwork or filing required to "maintain" it. Your accountant might be providing legitimate ongoing services related to S-Corp compliance (like ensuring you meet reasonable salary requirements, tracking distributions vs. wages, or monitoring for events that could terminate your election), but they should be transparent about what work justifies that $250 fee. I'd request a detailed breakdown of the services included in that charge. If they can't provide specifics about actual work being performed, you might want to shop around for a new accountant who's more upfront about their billing practices.
Just to reinforce what others have said - Form 2553 is definitely a one-time filing! I made the same mistake in my first year as an S-Corp and called the IRS thinking I needed to refile it. The representative confirmed that once your election is accepted, it stays in effect unless you voluntarily revoke it or something happens that disqualifies your S-Corp status. What you DO need to file annually is Form 1120-S (your S-Corp tax return) and prepare Schedule K-1s. Also don't forget about the reasonable salary requirement - as an S-Corp owner who works in the business, you need to pay yourself W-2 wages before taking distributions. That's probably the most important ongoing compliance issue to stay on top of. The IRS website has a good checklist for S-Corp annual requirements if you want to bookmark it for future reference!
Thank you for that helpful summary! As someone who's still navigating my first year as an S-Corp, I really appreciate the reminder about the reasonable salary requirement. I've been focused on the tax filing aspects but hadn't fully considered the payroll compliance side. Do you happen to know if there are any specific guidelines on what constitutes "reasonable" compensation, or is it more subjective based on industry standards and job duties?
Great question about reasonable salary! The IRS doesn't publish specific dollar amounts, but they do expect you to pay yourself what you'd pay someone else to do your job. They look at factors like your role in the company, hours worked, qualifications, and what similar positions pay in your area and industry. A good rule of thumb is to research salaries for comparable positions on sites like PayScale or Glassdoor. If you're doing the work of a $60k/year manager, you should probably be paying yourself somewhere in that ballpark as W-2 wages before taking additional money as distributions. The key is being able to justify your salary if the IRS ever questions it. Some S-Corp owners try to minimize payroll taxes by paying themselves very low salaries, but that's risky. The IRS has been cracking down on unreasonably low compensation because it reduces Social Security and Medicare tax revenue.
Nia Thompson
I'm a bit confused by some of these responses. Does the time zone thing apply to all IRS deadlines or just the April filing deadline? What about estimated tax payments?
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NebulaNomad
โขGreat question! The time zone rule applies to all IRS filing and payment deadlines, including estimated tax payments. The IRS considers a return or payment to be timely if it's submitted before midnight in your local time zone on the due date. This applies to e-filed returns, electronic payments, and even paper returns (which go by the postmark in your local time zone). So whether it's April 15th, quarterly estimated payments, extension deadlines, or any other tax deadline, your local time zone is what counts.
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Makayla Shoemaker
Don't panic! You're absolutely fine. The IRS operates on a "timely filed" principle based on your local time zone, not Eastern Time. Since you submitted at 11:23pm Pacific Time on April 15th, your return is considered filed on time according to IRS regulations. The April 16th date on your confirmation is likely just when the tax software's servers processed your return or when they transmitted it to the IRS - this can happen due to high traffic volumes on deadline day. What matters legally is when YOU hit submit in your time zone. You should receive an official IRS acceptance email within 24-48 hours that will show the correct filing date. Keep that email as your official record. I've seen this exact situation countless times and it's never been an issue. The IRS systems are designed to handle time zone differences properly. If you're still worried, you can always call the IRS to confirm (though expect long wait times), but based on your description, you're completely in the clear. No late penalties for you!
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Isabella Oliveira
โขThis is really reassuring to hear from someone who sounds experienced with this! I was wondering - is there any way to check your filing status online to confirm it shows the right date? I know the IRS has that "Where's My Refund" tool but I'm not sure if it shows the actual filing date they have on record. Also, for future reference, is there a specific time I should try to file by on deadline day to avoid this kind of anxiety? Like should I aim for earlier in the evening to make sure there's no processing delays?
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