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Marcus Marsh

Using accrual method for S-Corp bookkeeping but filing taxes with cash method - is that allowed?

I recently took over as treasurer for our family's S-Corporation. We've been using the accrual method for our bookkeeping since we started the business, but I'm wondering if we can use the cash method for our tax filing this year? Our accountant retired and I'm trying to figure this out before finding a new one. Our revenue is around $4.2 million annually, and I know there are some restrictions based on business size. But I heard from another business owner that S-Corps have more flexibility with accounting methods. If we do switch to cash method for tax purposes, do we need to file Form 3115 (Application for Change in Accounting Method)? Or can we just make the switch without any formal application? Really appreciate any insights because I'm trying to simplify our tax situation while keeping our books the way they are.

The short answer is yes, most S-Corporations can use the cash method for tax purposes even if they use accrual for their books, but there are some important details to consider. For S-Corps with average annual gross receipts of $27 million or less (for the 3 prior tax years), you qualify as a "small business taxpayer" under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provisions, which means you can generally use the cash method for tax purposes regardless of what method you use for your internal books. Regarding Form 3115 - yes, you do need to file this form when changing your accounting method for tax purposes. This is considered an automatic change, but the paperwork is still required. The form essentially reconciles the difference between your previous method and new method to ensure all income is properly recognized and nothing falls through the cracks.

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Cedric Chung

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Thanks for the info! Quick follow-up - if we've been using accrual for our internal bookkeeping and on previous tax returns, and now want to switch to cash for taxes only, is there a specific way we need to handle things like accounts receivable that were already counted as income under accrual but wouldn't be under cash until received? Also, is Form 3115 something a regular tax software can handle or should we definitely hire a professional for this?

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For the transition from accrual to cash, you'll need to make a "Section 481(a) adjustment" which accounts for those timing differences. For example, your accounts receivable that were already included in income under accrual but haven't been received yet would be a negative adjustment (reducing your taxable income in the year of change) because these amounts shouldn't be taxed again when you actually receive the cash. I would strongly recommend hiring a professional for this. Form 3115 is complex with multiple sections and calculations. Most consumer tax software doesn't handle this form well, and mistakes can trigger IRS scrutiny. A tax professional with S-Corp experience will make sure the transition is properly documented and the 481(a) adjustments are calculated correctly.

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Talia Klein

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That sounds promising! Did they help with the actual filing process too or just give you the form? I'm concerned about messing up the actual submission since I've heard Form 3115 has specific filing requirements.

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PaulineW

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I'm a bit skeptical of these online services. How detailed was their analysis for your specific situation? Did they consider things like inventory methods or any other accounting method changes besides just accrual to cash?

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Talia Klein

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They provided me with the completed Form 3115 that I could review, modify if needed, and then file. They also gave clear instructions on the proper filing procedure - you need to attach the original to your timely filed tax return and send a copy to the IRS National Office in Covington, KY. They walked me through the whole process. Their analysis was surprisingly thorough. They asked about inventory methods, accounts receivable aging, prepaid expenses, and even reviewed our financial statements to identify all potential method changes that might be affected. They specifically flagged some prepaid insurance policies we had that needed special attention during the transition.

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Charity Cohan

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One thing nobody has mentioned is that even if you qualify to use the cash method for tax purposes, make sure it actually benefits your specific business situation. For my S-Corp, we have lots of prepaid expenses but relatively few receivables, so the cash method actually increased our taxable income in the short term. Run some calculations both ways using last year's numbers before you commit to making the change. The Form 3115 process isn't something you want to do repeatedly.

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Marcus Marsh

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That's a great point I hadn't considered! Our business tends to carry significant accounts receivable (we bill large projects in phases), but we don't have many prepaid expenses. Would that generally mean the cash method could be more beneficial for us since we'd only recognize income when we actually receive payment?

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Charity Cohan

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Yes, that's exactly the kind of situation where cash method could be advantageous. If you bill in phases and carry significant receivables, using cash method means you only pay tax when you actually receive payment rather than when you send the invoice. This can be especially helpful for businesses with longer collection cycles or those where customers don't always pay immediately. Just make sure you model the change using your actual numbers so you can see the true impact, including the one-time adjustment in the year of change.

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Josef Tearle

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Does anyone know if the QuickBooks S-Corp tax package can handle filing Form 3115? We do our own taxes using QB and I'm trying to figure out if this is something we can DIY or if we absolutely need a professional.

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Shelby Bauman

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I tried doing this with QuickBooks last year and it was a disaster. QB doesn't have good support for Form 3115. I ended up having to get professional help anyway after spending hours trying to figure it out. Save yourself the headache and just hire someone who knows what they're doing for this specific form.

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Emma Johnson

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As someone who just went through this exact process last year, I can confirm that S-Corps under the $27 million gross receipts threshold can absolutely use cash method for taxes while maintaining accrual books. However, don't underestimate the complexity of Form 3115 - it's not just about checking a box to switch methods. The Section 481(a) adjustment calculation is where most people get tripped up. You'll need to account for all timing differences between your accrual books and cash method taxes, including accounts receivable, accounts payable, prepaid expenses, and accrued liabilities. Get any of these wrong and you could end up with duplicate income recognition or missed deductions. One tip: make sure you understand the 4-year spread option for large positive adjustments. If switching to cash method would create a significant increase in taxable income due to the adjustment, you can spread it over 4 years instead of taking the full hit in year one. This can make a huge difference in your tax liability. I'd strongly recommend getting professional help for the first year, then you'll have a template for future filings if needed.

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Chloe Martin

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm new to managing S-Corp taxes and this whole thread has been eye-opening. The 4-year spread option you mentioned is something I hadn't heard about before - is there a specific threshold where this becomes available, or can any S-Corp elect to spread the 481(a) adjustment over 4 years? Also, when you say "template for future filings," do you mean that once you switch to cash method you might need to file Form 3115 again in subsequent years, or just that the initial filing creates documentation you can reference later? I'm definitely leaning toward getting professional help after reading everyone's experiences here, but I want to understand the full scope of what I'm getting into before I start calling around for quotes.

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Finnegan Gunn

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Great question! The 4-year spread (technically called the "4-year spread election") is available when your positive Section 481(a) adjustment is more than $3,000. There's no upper threshold - any S-Corp can elect this if their adjustment exceeds that amount. You make the election by checking the appropriate box on Form 3115 and including a statement with your return. By "template," I meant the documentation and calculations from your initial Form 3115 filing. Once you successfully switch to cash method, you typically won't need to file another Form 3115 unless you want to change methods again or the IRS requires it for some reason. The initial filing establishes your new accounting method going forward. When getting quotes from professionals, ask specifically about their experience with S-Corp accounting method changes and Section 481(a) adjustments. Some preparers are great with regular S-Corp returns but haven't dealt with Form 3115 much. You want someone who can walk you through the long-term implications of the switch, not just fill out the form correctly. Also consider asking how they handle the bookkeeping reconciliation between your accrual books and cash tax returns going forward - that ongoing difference can create confusion if not properly managed.

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Sean Flanagan

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly informative! One aspect I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when to make this change during the tax year. Since we're already partway through 2025, would it be better to wait and make the accounting method change effective for the 2026 tax year, or can we still implement it for 2025? I'm worried about mid-year complications with the Section 481(a) adjustment calculations. Also, for those who have made this switch - how do you handle the ongoing reconciliation between your accrual books and cash method tax returns? Do you maintain separate records or use some kind of worksheet to track the differences each year? I want to make sure we set up a sustainable system that won't create headaches down the road.

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Great question about timing! You can absolutely make the accounting method change effective for 2025 even though we're partway through the year. The change is effective for the entire tax year, not from the date you file Form 3115. So if you file it with your 2025 return, the cash method applies to all of 2025. However, there's an important deadline to keep in mind - Form 3115 must be filed with your timely filed return (including extensions) for the year of change. So for a 2025 change, you'd need to file it with your 2025 S-Corp return by the due date. For the ongoing reconciliation between accrual books and cash tax returns, I set up a simple Excel worksheet that tracks the key differences each year: accounts receivable, accounts payable, prepaid expenses, and accrued liabilities. At year-end, I calculate the book-to-tax differences and use those to prepare the tax return. It's actually not as complicated as it sounds once you get the system set up. The key is being consistent with your tracking method so you don't accidentally double-count or miss items when preparing your returns. Most S-Corp tax software can handle the book-to-tax reconciliation once you input the differences.

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Miguel Silva

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Just wanted to add another perspective from someone who made this exact switch two years ago. One thing that really caught me off guard was how the change affected our quarterly estimated tax payments. Since we moved from accrual (where income was recognized when billed) to cash method (income recognized when received), our cash flow timing changed significantly. Under accrual, we had steady quarterly income recognition even if payments came in irregularly. With cash method, our taxable income now fluctuates based on when customers actually pay, which made estimated tax planning much trickier. We had one quarter where we received several large payments and owed way more than expected, followed by a quarter with very little taxable income. My advice: once you make the switch, work with your accountant to develop a new estimated tax payment strategy that accounts for your actual collection patterns rather than your billing schedule. This is especially important for service businesses with longer payment cycles. Also, make sure your payroll processing company understands the change if you're taking distributions or salary adjustments based on "book" income versus "tax" income. The disconnect between the two can create confusion when planning compensation.

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Julia Hall

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This is such an important point that I wish someone had mentioned when I was considering this change! We're a consulting firm with Net-30 payment terms, and I can already see how this could create major cash flow planning issues. Quick question - did you end up adjusting your estimated tax payment schedule to be more frequent (like monthly instead of quarterly) to smooth out the volatility? Or did you just build larger cash reserves to handle the uneven quarters? Also, regarding the payroll/distribution planning - do you now base your owner distributions on cash tax income rather than book income to avoid getting caught short when tax bills come due? I'm trying to think through all these operational changes before we make the switch.

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